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drdfblackm 01-16-2020 09:06 AM

Looking for deep tone with less drone
 
Ok....I am sure there are 1 million posts on what should I buy but I am looking for specifics on this one.

I will have 3" intake from Mike Upton with velocity stacks, ported upper and lower intakes, Z1 headers, Z1 test pipe and will have a tune done obviously before everything is done.

I was looking at every exhaust under the sun, I have watched countless clips on Youtube.

What would you recommend for deep tone, not much rasp, and lower highway speed drone. I will have a good stereo so a bit of drone will be tolerated.

I do like the sound of the Invidia Gemini, but again it is only from sound clips on Youtube, I have not heard any exhausts in person...I live in a smaller area where there are next to no Zs around.

Heck I even like the sound of the Borla and Magnaflow but again only clips are available. I have used several aFe/Takeda exhausts in the past so I am familiar with their quality but it appears not many use their exhaust.

Honestly at this point everything is becoming mashed together and I am not sure about any exhaust at this point. Case in point....I was about ready to get a Greddy Evolution exhaust....talked to a member and they said it droned terribly at highway speed, however he has a supercharger and maybe that makes a difference.

For me now, I have no clue. I am just looking for good solid input based on what I am putting on the car. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you

Spartan 1771 01-16-2020 09:41 AM

You have test pipes, so rasp will most likely be generated from them. As far as a CBE is concerned, you should consider the Fast Intentions TDX. Since you don't want drone, I would recommend getting it with 18" resonators.

Just my $0.02

drdfblackm 01-16-2020 09:58 AM

Yeah I understand some rasp will happen with the test pipes...I get it, just trying to minimize the amount.

I do very much appreciate the input...I will check the Fast Intentions out more.

Thank you!!!!

NorthStyle 01-16-2020 12:00 PM

I'd suggest ART or another resonated test pipe instead of Z1 test pipes and, as Spartan said, the TDX with the 18" resonators; this setup should cut out rasp for the most part.

drdfblackm 01-16-2020 12:27 PM

Already own the Z1 test pipes....can't complain because got them for stupid cheap and they are basically brand new. So if I can't handle it I will pick up some ART pipes later but going to roll with it for now due to the price savings.

Spooler 01-16-2020 01:30 PM

The best sounding exhaust I have ever heard on a NA car is the following. The rest are just bland.

Fast Intentions long tube headers
Fast Intentions Carbon Fiber muffler CBE with 18in resonators.

JohnnyDrama on here had that car. Do a search and you will find the Youtube video.

Spooler 01-16-2020 02:24 PM

Here it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOUepCa9KH0

drdfblackm 01-16-2020 02:33 PM

It does sound good....never heard or seen this video. Thank you for posting!!!!!

I would choose long tube headers, but going with long tubes makes it very difficult to switch back to cats....I want to be able to switch the car back. I don't have emissions but Phoenix does and if the car ever is sold I want to have it available for the mass markets.....at least that's my thinking.

Spooler 01-16-2020 02:38 PM

If you did the above CBE you would be close. Long tubes have a smoother sound. I would also get the Prismatic tips. Get the Carbon fiber mufflers and 18 in. resonators. Call Kevin at Fast Intentions. He will hook you up.

drdfblackm 01-16-2020 02:49 PM

What difference does the carbon fiber mufflers make? I don't care to much about weight. Also not a fan of the burnt tip/colored tip look. Just me. I like either polished or black.

Looks like a very well made fairly priced system.

Spooler 01-16-2020 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by drdfblackm (Post 3901067)
What difference does the carbon fiber mufflers make? I don't care to much about weight. Also not a fan of the burnt tip/colored tip look. Just me. I like either polished or black.

Looks like a very well made fairly priced system.

You get an exotic sound in the mid and upper RPM range. You can get regular polished tips.

Hotrodz 01-16-2020 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by drdfblackm (Post 3901064)
It does sound good....never heard or seen this video. Thank you for posting!!!!!

I would choose long tube headers, but going with long tubes makes it very difficult to switch back to cats....I want to be able to switch the car back. I don't have emissions but Phoenix does and if the car ever is sold I want to have it available for the mass markets.....at least that's my thinking.

If you decide to sell the car just have the headers removed and replace with oem and cat. You can sell the headers without much problem.

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johnnydrama 01-16-2020 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3901062)

Smiled when I just saw this posted all these years later. I went a little different route with my 2nd Nismo however still went with Fast Intentions for the cat back exhaust, just non-resonated paired with Motordyne headers this time.

drdfblackm 01-16-2020 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3901096)
If you decide to sell the car just have the headers removed and replace with oem and cat. You can sell the headers without much problem.

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Yes I could do that....however removing test pipe and replacing the cat is much easier than removing header and replacing oem and cat. Just my thought process....haven't went forward yet.

Spartan 1771 01-16-2020 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by drdfblackm (Post 3901098)
Yes I could do that....however removing test pipe and replacing the cat is much easier than removing header and replacing oem and cat. Just my thought process....haven't went forward yet.

Just don't sell the car. Problem solved.

Hotrodz 01-16-2020 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by drdfblackm (Post 3901098)
Yes I could do that....however removing test pipe and replacing the cat is much easier than removing header and replacing oem and cat. Just my thought process....haven't went forward yet.

As the saying goes...you got to pay to play! It just about how much is it worth to you. We are here to help you spend your money, LMAO!!! I have gone past the rabbit through the worm hole and into the black hole. I see Spooler as he is keeping me company.

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johnnydrama 01-16-2020 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnydrama (Post 3901097)
Smiled when I just saw this posted all these years later. I went a little different route with my 2nd Nismo however still went with Fast Intentions for the cat back exhaust, just non-resonated paired with Motordyne headers this time.

I just moved back to the same area I shot this video. This spring I’m going to go back and re-create with my new setup for direct comparison.

Spooler 01-16-2020 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnydrama (Post 3901106)
I just moved back to the same area I shot this video. This spring I’m going to go back and re-create with my new setup for direct comparison.

That is still my favorite exhaust after all these years. That is why I have a Carbon Fiber muffler 3in. exhaust on my car now.

Spooler 01-16-2020 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3901104)
As the saying goes...you got to pay to play! It just about how much is it worth to you. We are here to help you spend your money, LMAO!!! I have gone past the rabbit through the worm hole and into the black hole. I see Spooler as he is keeping me company.

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LOL, Yeap we are racing the black hole.

AlWakRa 01-17-2020 03:22 PM

For deep note you need resonated system, I have Fast Intentions with 12" res and motordyne LTH with resonated module (very close to johnny car)

This is the best clip I could get for outside sound.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3rLfEMhwHQ


But it drones, I don't know if 18" res will be drone free, a friend said his HKS hi power doesn't drone, and it is very quiet until you slam the throttle.

GrayGhost 01-19-2020 12:56 AM

I have the greddy evo gt with ART pipes, not Supercharged, and it definitely drones. Which is unfortunate because it sounds amazing above 3k and WOT. I can’t wait to hear it fly by me or what people say when i take it to the track. There is a narrow rev range where you can eliminate the majority of the drone, or just stay above 3k ;), and depends on what highway speed you go because i think 55-65 is drone. May be high too, I don’t remember.

Sometimes i wonder if my ART pipes are real because it has so much drone and people claim ART pipes reduce drone compared to hfc or test pipes, meaning their heads probably explode on a daily basis.

The idle and natural backfires are nice


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BossJ 01-19-2020 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by GrayGhost (Post 3901682)
I have the greddy evo gt with ART pipes, not Supercharged, and it definitely drones. Which is unfortunate because it sounds amazing above 3k and WOT. I can’t wait to hear it fly by me or what people say when i take it to the track. There is a narrow rev range where you can eliminate the majority of the drone, or just stay above 3k ;), and depends on what highway speed you go because i think 55-65 is drone. May be high too, I don’t remember.

Sometimes i wonder if my ART pipes are real because it has so much drone and people claim ART pipes reduce drone compared to hfc or test pipes, meaning their heads probably explode on a daily basis.

The idle and natural backfires are nice


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I have Greddy GT also but I have FI resonated test pipes and while there is drone - like you say - it’s not at all bad - and it sounds aggressive and deep when you WOT.

AlWakRa 01-19-2020 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GrayGhost (Post 3901682)
I have the greddy evo gt with ART pipes, not Supercharged, and it definitely drones. Which is unfortunate because it sounds amazing above 3k and WOT. I can’t wait to hear it fly by me or what people say when i take it to the track. There is a narrow rev range where you can eliminate the majority of the drone, or just stay above 3k ;), and depends on what highway speed you go because i think 55-65 is drone. May be high too, I don’t remember.

Sometimes i wonder if my ART pipes are real because it has so much drone and people claim ART pipes reduce drone compared to hfc or test pipes, meaning their heads probably explode on a daily basis.

The idle and natural backfires are nice


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I read somewhere catbacks are more responsible for drone, also engine mounts play a part, it was very good when I had stock mounts, with solid mounts, it became a lot noisier inside.

1/4atatime 02-10-2020 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3901062)

Man this video is making me second guess wanting a motordyne. I'm seriously torn on the motordyne over the fast intentions. My plus for the motordyne the sound is exotic and no drone negative is I've heard it's insanely loud and don't really want to have to deal with getting a ticket for it. The plus for the fast intentions is it sounds deep, and it's quieter (can anyone give me a good idea of how much quieter?). Negative is the drone at cruising speed. I've watched every video and still can't decide.

Spartan 1771 02-11-2020 06:26 AM

This is the video that convinced me to go with the FI CBE and Berk cats. Listen to it with headphones or on a quality audio system. Although he doesn't' state it, I believe this FI setup is using resonators. I say that because mine sounds even louder and meaner.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPGIpkj2MRc

projectpanda 02-11-2020 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by GrayGhost (Post 3901682)
I have the greddy evo gt with ART pipes, not Supercharged, and it definitely drones. Which is unfortunate because it sounds amazing above 3k and WOT. I can’t wait to hear it fly by me or what people say when i take it to the track. There is a narrow rev range where you can eliminate the majority of the drone, or just stay above 3k ;), and depends on what highway speed you go because i think 55-65 is drone. May be high too, I don’t remember.

Sometimes i wonder if my ART pipes are real because it has so much drone and people claim ART pipes reduce drone compared to hfc or test pipes, meaning their heads probably explode on a daily basis.

The idle and natural backfires are nice


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I thought ART pipes remedied rasp rather than drone. I had ART pipes with my Top Speed exhaust and Motordyne exhaust and it deepened the sound from my Circuit Werks. I did not have drone with either exhaust also. I drive 120 miles daily for work and its mostly hwy so I stay in the 3k-4k rpm range. But I also have a G37 so maybe the extra sound deadening makes the difference.

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Originally Posted by 1/4atatime (Post 3907695)
Man this video is making me second guess wanting a motordyne. I'm seriously torn on the motordyne over the fast intentions. My plus for the motordyne the sound is exotic and no drone negative is I've heard it's insanely loud and don't really want to have to deal with getting a ticket for it. The plus for the fast intentions is it sounds deep, and it's quieter (can anyone give me a good idea of how much quieter?). Negative is the drone at cruising speed. I've watched every video and still can't decide.

I loved my Motordyne exhaust on my G37. I think paired with HFC, sound volume won't be too bad.

Zezus 02-11-2020 07:49 AM

Motordyne is the way. I love my shockwave. I'll be ordering either art pipes or lths with helmholtz resonators this spring. i'm just not sure how much work i'm ready to do. look up 370z motordyne exhaust w art pipes on youtube. that sh*t sounds so nasty.

JLarson 02-11-2020 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 1/4atatime (Post 3907695)
Man this video is making me second guess wanting a motordyne. I'm seriously torn on the motordyne over the fast intentions. My plus for the motordyne the sound is exotic and no drone negative is I've heard it's insanely loud and don't really want to have to deal with getting a ticket for it. The plus for the fast intentions is it sounds deep, and it's quieter (can anyone give me a good idea of how much quieter?). Negative is the drone at cruising speed. I've watched every video and still can't decide.

I had a Motordyne CBE on my 350z with Art pipes, and my wife has a MD CBE on her G37.

-If you're keeping stock cats, the drone isn't bad, although it is definitely present.
-If you're getting rid of cats, expect drone at highway speeds.

It is significantly louder than a Fast Intentions. My FI even with long tube headers is about 82-85 dB inside the car with the tester near head level. I'll check my wife's car, if you PM me a reminder, but it's not much quieter and she's inside a better insulated cabin and still has OEM cats. I'd guess my 350z was 90-95 dB under load.

Whjaxn17 02-11-2020 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrayGhost (Post 3901682)
I have the greddy evo gt with ART pipes, not Supercharged, and it definitely drones. Which is unfortunate because it sounds amazing above 3k and WOT. I can’t wait to hear it fly by me or what people say when i take it to the track. There is a narrow rev range where you can eliminate the majority of the drone, or just stay above 3k ;), and depends on what highway speed you go because i think 55-65 is drone. May be high too, I don’t remember.

Sometimes i wonder if my ART pipes are real because it has so much drone and people claim ART pipes reduce drone compared to hfc or test pipes, meaning their heads probably explode on a daily basis.

The idle and natural backfires are nice


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:iagree: I love mine as well, but yeah, around 55-65mph(2500-3k rpm) it does drone. Currently running ART pipes too, but switching to FI resonated TPs in a few weeks.

1/4atatime 02-11-2020 09:33 AM

Thanks guys for all the info. All this is very helpful.

Zezus 02-11-2020 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Whjaxn17 (Post 3907803)
:iagree: I love mine as well, but yeah, around 55-65mph(2500-3k rpm) it does drone. Currently running ART pipes too, but switching to FI resonated TPs in a few weeks.

Why the switch?

beauz 02-11-2020 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Whjaxn17 (Post 3907803)
:iagree: I love mine as well, but yeah, around 55-65mph(2500-3k rpm) it does drone. Currently running ART pipes too, but switching to FI resonated TPs in a few weeks.

i have ppe LTH and greddy gt evo. i used to wear earplugs on the highway because of the drone levels. literally unbearable over long trips. anything from 2500-3000 rpm was hell. music above 3000rpm. ive since switched back to my hks hipower which is pretty much silent on the highway yet still makes a good noise when your into it.

ColorSource 02-16-2020 10:23 PM

You should just go full Motordyne if you're getting the art pipes. There's no doubt you'll love it. Deep and aggressive.


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