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Angziety 01-06-2019 07:36 AM

Opinions for exhaust setup
 
I currently drive a 2016 370z Nismo. Bought it back in OCT18, looking to do some exhaust upgrades now.

Currently the only mod I have is the Stillen Gen 3 CAI.

I'm looking into Motordyne's LTH w/ resonated TP, with the FI CBE (12" resonator, CF muffler, straight through lead pipes).

I've had a couple people tell me to go with ISR LTH, or PPE LTH instead of the Motordyne ones, and to stay away from FI's CBE. They were recommending a single exit with a Y-pipe instead.

Any help here is greatly appreciated. I'm newer to the car scene, so I'm just trying to figure things out.

BOLIO 671 01-06-2019 09:08 AM

It all comes down to ur taste. The Single exit exhaust is the new fad now. F.I. has been in the game long and we’re one of the first companies to develop an exhaust system for the Z34. As you can tell they have the highest number of exhaust amongst Z34 owners. This may be some of the reasons why people are telling u to stay away from the F.I exhaust. Trust me it has nothing to do with the quality of their work. They’re top notch... Tony and his guys know what they’re doing. This is a non-bias statement as I don’t even own an F.I. Exhaust as I am running the BerK CBE. This was based on my personal taste. If Berk didn’t have any CBEs at the time I would’ve definitely ordered an F.I. 12” resonated.

This again alll depends on ur sound and style (looks) preference. When I chose my exhaust setup I based it on the following priorities

1) HP Gains
2) Sound Quality
3) Looks/Appearace


The Berk is siniliar to the stock look which is great for my taste as I prefer the sleeper look.

As far as people telling u to stay away from the Motordyne LTHs that’s probably because Motordybe is one of the most expensive options avaialableZ. ISR is one of the newer more affordable options. For the amount of power u will gain it’s not worth spending a big amount of money. Believe it or not the stock OEM headers are pretty good and effecient. LTHs will give u more midrange. power but this is of course due largely to having a proper tune. The OEM sinkexhaust from the catalytic converters to the Cat Back Exuasts are really the most power restricters and will give u the most power gains.

Angziety 01-06-2019 09:44 AM

Thanks for the quick response.

I'm going for the same priorities. I was looking into getting new headers because that's what I was told to do. Originally I was just looking at doing the ART Pipes and an FI CBE.

Spooler 01-06-2019 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angziety (Post 3812682)
I currently drive a 2016 370z Nismo. Bought it back in OCT18, looking to do some exhaust upgrades now.

Currently the only mod I have is the Stillen Gen 3 CAI.

I'm looking into Motordyne's LTH w/ resonated TP, with the FI CBE (12" resonator, CF muffler, straight through lead pipes).

I've had a couple people tell me to go with ISR LTH, or PPE LTH instead of the Motordyne ones, and to stay away from FI's CBE. They were recommending a single exit with a Y-pipe instead.

Any help here is greatly appreciated. I'm newer to the car scene, so I'm just trying to figure things out.

Anyone who tells you to go with a single exhaust just doesn't have a clue. They sound like crap. Why they said to stay away from FI's CBE is only due to one reason, they have a personal bone to pick. I would personally go with the FI's LTH's and FI's 18in. resonated CBE with carbon fiber mufflers. The sound is awesome.

NorthStyle 01-06-2019 12:12 PM

Supposedly, singles make more power than duals. However, like Spooler said: most of them sound pretty terrible. The GReddy RS Race sounds pretty good and is one of the more inexpensive options (if you want a single). Otherwise, you can't go wrong with either the FI or Motordyne exhaust unless you wanted the Verus/Velox diffuser... then definitely get the Motordyne or be prepared to do some cutting.

Rusty 01-06-2019 07:18 PM

I looked at the ISR website. Don't see LTH's for the 370 or the 350.

The best LTH's are FI, and PPE. Not a lot of results yet for the Motordyne LTH. so the jury is still out. For a shorty. Z1's are good. If you are going to install the LTH's yourself. The right should take about 1 to 2 hours depending on your skill sets. The left side will take you a minimum of 5 hours with a lot of cussing and hands that look like they have had been in a fight with a pissed off putty cat. :eek: If a shop is doing it. Look for about 10 hours of labor.

There is nothing wrong with the FI cbe. Fit, finish and customer service is top shelf. The only problem is the wait. The people who told you to stay away from FI. Do they own a Z?

Sound is a personal taste.

I have FI LTH's, 12" resonators, and cbe. Along with the Stillen 3G long tube intake. And a few other mods. HP is 334 and 279 ftlbs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpulkkJTOX0

Spooler 01-06-2019 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3812846)
I looked at the ISR website. Don't see LTH's for the 370 or the 350.

The best LTH's are FI, and PPE. Not a lot of results yet for the Motordyne LTH. so the jury is still out. For a shorty. Z1's are good. If you are going to install the LTH's yourself. The right should take about 1 to 2 hours depending on your skill sets. The left side will take you a minimum of 5 hours with a lot of cussing and hands that look like they have had been in a fight with a pissed off putty cat. :eek: If a shop is doing it. Look for about 10 hours of labor.

There is nothing wrong with the FI cbe. Fit, finish and customer service is top shelf. The only problem is the wait. The people who told you to stay away from FI. Do they own a Z?

Sound is a personal taste.

I have FI LTH's, 12" resonators, and cbe. Along with the Stillen 3G long tube intake. And a few other mods. HP is 334 and 279 ftlbs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=/UpulkkJTOX0


Now the link will work. You keep pasting over the /. Just take that off next time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpulkkJTOX0

Rusty 01-06-2019 09:28 PM

:tup:

OptionZero 01-06-2019 09:45 PM

Who the f-ck is saying to stay away from Fast intentions? They have been here for years and their quality is top notch.

The ONLY downside is the wait, and even thats mitigated because they hired a bunch more people. They have a thread in the Intake/Exhaust forum

Spooler 01-06-2019 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by OptionZero (Post 3812907)
Who the f-ck is saying to stay away from Fast intentions? They have been here for years and their quality is top notch.

The ONLY downside is the wait, and even thats mitigated because they hired a bunch more people. They have a thread in the Intake/Exhaust forum

Probably youngin's who can't afford it. Somebody got mad because they had xxx test pipes and FI exhaust and they had an issue because the test pipes were horrible and stress the FI CBE causing the flang to crack. Who knows, but you get the point.

johnnydrama 01-06-2019 10:03 PM

+1 for both FI and Motordyne, I don’t think you can go wrong with either for headers or exhaust. To me the single exits aren’t worth the couple extra HP, they don’t sound as good and aesthetically don’t look as nice as a dual setup.

axmea? 01-06-2019 10:57 PM

LOL on staying away from F.I. what was their reasoning for this advice? If I were to guess.....Facebook crowd? I as well as many (over a thousand owners) have enjoyed their system not to mention their top notch service.

YaFeelZ 01-06-2019 11:41 PM

Nothing sounds more exotic then the motordyne imo

lumpia.z 01-07-2019 12:40 AM

In my opinion, Fast Intentions is the most popular for 370Zs. You can customize them too if you want them a little louder or quieter. I've heard my buddies and it sounds very deep and throaty. The Motordyne on the other hand is intoxicating - it's loud and aggressive, reminds me of a GTR. It will definitely turn more heads than the FI. As for single exits like the Tomei, they're way too loud in my opinion and too boy-racerish. I'd rock single exits on track focused cars.

I say you should hear the exhausts in person, that's pretty much the best way to judge. Videos don't do exhaust clips justice LOL.

Angziety 01-07-2019 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by axmea? (Post 3812942)
LOL on staying away from F.I. what was their reasoning for this advice? If I were to guess.....Facebook crowd? I as well as many (over a thousand owners) have enjoyed their system not to mention their top notch service.

It actually was on the facebook group that I got those recommendations lol. My account just got approved here so I had no other group to ask.

Angziety 01-07-2019 05:05 AM

It's pretty hard to hear these exhaust setups in person, because the car groups here do their meets on Friday nights during my work hours. Only real way for me to hear them is through videos, or the random off chance I see someone when I'm not working.

I was doing a bit more shopping around today though. I think I've found what I want. Now I just need to work the courage to drop the cash lol. For now I think I'm going to go with the Motordyne Shockwave CBE, from the videos I've heard, it sounds really good. I'll end up getting some type of LTH soon as well, just haven't settled on a specific one yet.

2011 Nismo#91 01-07-2019 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angziety (Post 3812682)
I've had a couple people tell me to go with ISR LTH, or PPE LTH instead of the Motordyne ones, and to stay away from FI's CBE. They were recommending a single exit with a Y-pipe instead.

Any help here is greatly appreciated. I'm newer to the car scene, so I'm just trying to figure things out.

Do yourself a favor and don't take car advise from those people again. Either they don't know what they are talking about or are trying to make you worse off for some reason.

Fast Intentions is one of the best options out there. I think ISR is just one step above generic eBay exhausts, but that's only my opnion.

BC416 01-07-2019 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Angziety (Post 3812965)
It's pretty hard to hear these exhaust setups in person, because the car groups here do their meets on Friday nights during my work hours. Only real way for me to hear them is through videos, or the random off chance I see someone when I'm not working.

I was doing a bit more shopping around today though. I think I've found what I want. Now I just need to work the courage to drop the cash lol. For now I think I'm going to go with the Motordyne Shockwave CBE, from the videos I've heard, it sounds really good. I'll end up getting some type of LTH soon as well, just haven't settled on a specific one yet.

A Motordyne paired up with LTH is going to be very loud. Just a heads up.

Whjaxn17 01-07-2019 09:16 AM

I picked up the Greddy Evolution dual system(they also make a single) for mine along with Z1 headers and Motordyne ART pipes.

I've never seen a single negative review from anyone about anything Fast Intentions puts out. Quality and service is top notch(I have a couple other things from them).

Angziety 01-07-2019 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BC416 (Post 3813012)
A Motordyne paired up with LTH is going to be very loud. Just a heads up.

Oh really?? Anything that sounds like it, but a little softer?

BC416 01-07-2019 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Angziety (Post 3813057)
Oh really?? Anything that sounds like it, but a little softer?

The Motordyne sounds great and is very aggressive by itself. Once you pair it with upgraded cats/LTHs, it goes full on race-car in my opinion. If you really like the Motordyne, I'd grab the catback by itself and see how it is before doing the cats/headers.

JLarson 01-07-2019 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BC416 (Post 3813064)
The Motordyne sounds great and is very aggressive by itself. Once you pair it with upgraded cats/LTHs, it goes full on race-car in my opinion. If you really like the Motordyne, I'd grab the catback by itself and see how it is before doing the cats/headers.

:iagree: This. I ran the Fast Intentions CBE, unresonated, with the FI Long Tube Headers, and it was pretty loud. I had to switch to the 12" resonated mid pipes to reduce the volume to a more manageable level, and it's still loud, but much more bearable. We're talking 'sets off car alarms on a cold start' loudness, and the FI CBE is definitely not as loud as the Motordyne.

The Motordyne sounds amazing, I had it paired with ART pipes on my 350z, but I couldn't imagine it with headers as a DD.

johnnydrama 01-07-2019 02:11 PM

Another determining factor for me was weight. After having a Fast Intentions LTH with Fast Intentions w/ 18" resonators setup on my first Z, I was actually leaning towards a Motordyne system on my new one. However, my FI non-resonated w/ Carbon Fiber mufflers weighs 41 lbs., half the weight of the Motordyne I believe, 85 lbs. Just additional food for thought depending on what your priorities are.

Quicksilvers 01-07-2019 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BC416 (Post 3813012)
A Motordyne paired up with LTH is going to be very loud. Just a heads up.

+1 Once you go the LTH route volume and tone will drastically change and be loud to most people’s standards. Rusty hit this one on the head. The FI and PPE LTH’s are expensive but worth it as fitment and quality is excellent and would be two of the best choices for LTH’s on a Z. To each their own in my experience with FI they were under staffed for their supply and demand from their customers and I had to wait an eternity (5 moths) to get my exhaust I ordered from them and people are biased to FI from what I see considering that people pay a small fortune to have their exhaust on their Z. Overall in my experience FI offers high quality exhaust products with excellent customer service to match. With other exhaust set ups I have had I also had a excellent experience with PPE and AAM Competition as well. The best of luck with your LTH installation my first LTH installation took me 8.5 hours. Make sure to have plenty of beer on hand.

markesc 01-07-2019 10:50 PM

FI 18” res + cf mufflers has been amazing!!!

Leaning on motordyne headers with the hf res cats as motordyne appears to use v-band for the header to cat connection allowing a swith to test pipies with ease.

Anyone running a motordyne header?

johnnydrama 01-08-2019 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markesc (Post 3813358)
FI 18” res + cf mufflers has been amazing!!!

Leaning on motordyne headers with the hf res cats as motordyne appears to use v-band for the header to cat connection allowing a swith to test pipies with ease.

Anyone running a motordyne header?

I’m running Motordyne Headers w/ hemholz resonator paired with a Fast Intentions non-resonated carbon fiber exhaust. It’s a great combo!

Angziety 01-08-2019 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by johnnydrama (Post 3813409)
I’m running Motordyne Headers w/ hemholz resonator paired with a Fast Intentions non-resonated carbon fiber exhaust. It’s a great combo!

I was looking at that combo as well, how loud is it? I'm not trying to set off car alarms, but definitely want to still hear my exhaust lol.

johnnydrama 01-08-2019 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Angziety (Post 3813411)
I was looking at that combo as well, how loud is it? I'm not trying to set off car alarms, but definitely want to still hear my exhaust lol.

It can be daily driven, essentially I do mine for 6 months of the year when the weather is nice. But when you lay into it, it screams. I think the Hemholz resonators, similar to Art Pipes, do a great job eliminating drone and/or rasp during normal driving. However when you want to have fun, it gives you that race car experience.

I don't have a full exhaust video yet but am working on it, but here is a short clip with a few mild revs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mnqPOQApE0&feature

Angziety 01-08-2019 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnydrama (Post 3813420)
It can be daily driven, essentially I do mine for 6 months of the year when the weather is nice. But when you lay into it, it screams. I think the Hemholz resonators, similar to Art Pipes, do a great job eliminating drone and/or rasp during normal driving. However when you want to have fun, it gives you that race car experience.

Ahh, I don't have to worry about weather restrictions. I wonder if the 12" resonator with the ART pipes would make it just as loud as the stock or if it would still be louder.

johnnydrama 01-08-2019 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Angziety (Post 3813490)
Ahh, I don't have to worry about weather restrictions. I wonder if the 12" resonator with the ART pipes would make it just as loud as the stock or if it would still be louder.

That would be considerably louder than the stock Nismo setup.

Angziety 01-08-2019 11:30 PM

Awesome. I really appreciate all the responses here. Eveyone has been much nicer and informative than the facebook group.

lumpia.z 01-09-2019 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Angziety (Post 3813789)
Awesome. I really appreciate all the responses here. Eveyone has been much nicer and informative than the facebook group.

Just stay away from the 370Z Facebook page, that page is hella toxic LMAO. Most of the people there are a bunch of ricers and will give you sh*tty advice which is why I left.

Angziety 01-09-2019 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by lumpia.z (Post 3813797)
Just stay away from the 370Z Facebook page, that page is hella toxic LMAO. Most of the people there are a bunch of ricers and will give you sh*tty advice which is why I left.

Now that my account is approved here, I will 100% not be on the facebook page lol


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