To buy headers or not?

AstatenateZ · 03-21-2018, 12:05 PM

I have AAM non catted test pipes, Z1 ported intake, Takeda short ram intakes, and a Top Speed Pro1 cat back!

I was really debating buying some Megan racing headers (as I found some at a good price $300) and also heard good reviews on their products!

My question is. Will I have much of an increase in sound or power, if I’m already running cat less test pipes, cat back, intakes an Z1 intake?

Currently am not tuned. But maybe planned in the future. I moniter my A/F-R and it’s not off and car runs very healthy, so tune isn’t really NEEDED at this point. So maybe in the future.

I also don’t have a CEL for my test pipes right now. I’m assuming if I removed the stock manifold and pre cats I would def 100% have a CEL and possibly throw A/F-R off.

So is it worth it? Or not?

Chuck33079 · 03-21-2018, 12:38 PM

You'll make very little additional power, the labor bill will be high, and Megan racing is eBay garbage.

sirnixalot · 03-21-2018, 12:42 PM

Get a different intake or extend the current one. You will make more power per dollar there

AstatenateZ · 03-21-2018, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

You'll make very little additional power, the labor bill will be high, and Megan racing is eBay garbage.

I do all my own work. So labor price wouldn’t be an issue. But even if I went to a better brand, it’ll be minimal additional power?

Chuck33079 · 03-21-2018, 01:11 PM

Yep. Shorty headers other than the Z1s are a waste of time. Long Tubes, Z1(which requires DE test pipes), or stock.

AstatenateZ · 03-21-2018, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Yep. Shorty headers other than the Z1s are a waste of time. Long Tubes, Z1(which requires DE test pipes), or stock.

I thought about maybe getting rid of my current AAM test pipes and going long tube! Was worried about clearance under car. I heard they stick down a bit further than test pipes or stock and I’m pretty low. My only concern. And if I went with Z1 shorty headers I’d need DE test pipes? Hmm didn’t know that. Guess that’s a no from me. Very minimal gains. Almost guaranteed I’ll need a tune afterwards and not to mention having to deal with those demon bolts again. No thanks lol ! Haha

Rusty · 03-21-2018, 08:59 PM

If you really want headers. There are only 3 out there that are worth it. FI, PPS, and the Z1 shorty. I have the FI lth's. They do not stick down any farther then the stock exhaust. Doing the install yourself. The right side should not take you more then 1.5 hrs. The left side will take you about 5 to 6 hrs. The heat shield is a mother to get out. Plus you have to remove the steering shaft to have enough room to get the manifold out and the header in.

JLarson · 03-22-2018, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

If you really want headers. There are only 3 out there that are worth it. FI, PPS, and the Z1 shorty. I have the FI lth's. They do not stick down any farther then the stock exhaust. Doing the install yourself. The right side should not take you more then 1.5 hrs. The left side will take you about 5 to 6 hrs. The heat shield is a mother to get out. Plus you have to remove the steering shaft to have enough room to get the manifold out and the header in.

Seconded. Like Rusty, I have the FI lth's. Loved the results.

Quicksilvers · 03-23-2018, 12:22 AM

You will get minimal gains from installing shorty headers. The only shorty headers that would be somewhat worth it are the Z1 headers. Unless you are doing the labor yourself labor will be expensive right side should be 1-2 hours and the left side is a PITB probably 5-6 1/2 hours just depends on how fast you work really. One of the best choices you will ever make on your Z is deciding if you want to install headers because they can be hard to unbolt the evil bolt can be frustrating to remove. The steering shaft and heat shield are hard to remove and it takes time. The only full length longtube headers I would recommend would be the PPS or FI longtube headers.

Rusty · 03-23-2018, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Quicksilvers

You will get minimal gains from installing shorty headers. The only shorty headers that would be somewhat worth it are the Z1 headers. Unless you are doing the labor yourself labor will be expensive right side should be 1-2 hours and the left side is a PITB probably 5-6 1/2 hours just depends on how fast you work really. One of the best choices you will ever make on your Z is deciding if you want to install headers because they can be hard to unbolt the evil bolt can be frustrating to remove. The steering shaft and heat shield are hard to remove and it takes time. The only full length longtube headers I would recommend would be the PPS or FI longtube headers.

Is there an echo in here?

By going with either the Z1 shorty or lth's. You don't have to mess with the demon bolts. Just remove the stock manifold, and down tubes in one piece.

Quicksilvers · 03-23-2018, 12:45 AM

Also the 2014+ 370Z has upgraded Nissan headers manifolds from the previous years. You will still gain power from installing headers no matter how minimal they may be. I have seen the FI headers in person they are some quality peices but they will cost you a pretty penny.

axmea? · 03-23-2018, 02:05 AM

What you get is not worth the effort. But if you're into "yeah it's got headers", then go for it. Put your $ and effort on cooling, suspension or a 4.08 gear instead.

ZontheRocks · 03-23-2018, 06:40 AM

No recommendation or mention for Motordyne LTH? Just curious.

Rusty · 03-23-2018, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ZontheRocks

No recommendation or mention for Motordyne LTH? Just curious.

Not too many have posted about them. Not a lot of data on them let to give a thumb up or thumb down.

Hotrodz · 03-23-2018, 02:48 PM

ssfirehawk had ppe long lth (I am not sure the before mentions pps are the same) on his supercharged z. I would say that would the only better reason to get lth.

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03-21-2018, 12:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
AstatenateZ Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: LR, Arkansas Posts: 428 Drives: 2012 370Z Rep Power: 11	To buy headers or not? I have AAM non catted test pipes, Z1 ported intake, Takeda short ram intakes, and a Top Speed Pro1 cat back! I was really debating buying some Megan racing headers (as I found some at a good price $300) and also heard good reviews on their products! My question is. Will I have much of an increase in sound or power, if I’m already running cat less test pipes, cat back, intakes an Z1 intake? Currently am not tuned. But maybe planned in the future. I moniter my A/F-R and it’s not off and car runs very healthy, so tune isn’t really NEEDED at this point. So maybe in the future. I also don’t have a CEL for my test pipes right now. I’m assuming if I removed the stock manifold and pre cats I would def 100% have a CEL and possibly throw A/F-R off. So is it worth it? Or not? Last edited by AstatenateZ; 03-21-2018 at 12:08 PM.

03-21-2018, 12:38 PM	#2 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	You'll make very little additional power, the labor bill will be high, and Megan racing is eBay garbage. 2011 Nismo#91, Rusty, Z-Girl 12 and 5 others like this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

03-21-2018, 12:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
sirnixalot Track Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: Cayman Islands Posts: 685 Drives: 2010 370Z Rep Power: 57454	Get a different intake or extend the current one. You will make more power per dollar there AstatenateZ likes this. __________________ 2010 Sport - LS3 swap loading 2012 Frontier - BTWTuning VK56DE swap

03-21-2018, 01:11 PM	#5 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	Yep. Shorty headers other than the Z1s are a waste of time. Long Tubes, Z1(which requires DE test pipes), or stock. Rusty, Z-Girl 12 and NismOrly22 like this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

03-21-2018, 08:59 PM	#7 (permalink)
Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 68 Posts: 35,185 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684437	If you really want headers. There are only 3 out there that are worth it. FI, PPS, and the Z1 shorty. I have the FI lth's. They do not stick down any farther then the stock exhaust. Doing the install yourself. The right side should not take you more then 1.5 hrs. The left side will take you about 5 to 6 hrs. The heat shield is a mother to get out. Plus you have to remove the steering shaft to have enough room to get the manifold out and the header in. AstatenateZ, NismOrly22 and KAGE Z like this. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

03-23-2018, 12:22 AM	#9 (permalink)
Quicksilvers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2017 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,039 Drives: 2017 370z Rep Power: 25463	You will get minimal gains from installing shorty headers. The only shorty headers that would be somewhat worth it are the Z1 headers. Unless you are doing the labor yourself labor will be expensive right side should be 1-2 hours and the left side is a PITB probably 5-6 1/2 hours just depends on how fast you work really. One of the best choices you will ever make on your Z is deciding if you want to install headers because they can be hard to unbolt the evil bolt can be frustrating to remove. The steering shaft and heat shield are hard to remove and it takes time. The only full length longtube headers I would recommend would be the PPS or FI longtube headers. Last edited by Quicksilvers; 03-23-2018 at 12:25 AM.

03-23-2018, 12:45 AM	#11 (permalink)
Quicksilvers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2017 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,039 Drives: 2017 370z Rep Power: 25463	Also the 2014+ 370Z has upgraded Nissan headers manifolds from the previous years. You will still gain power from installing headers no matter how minimal they may be. I have seen the FI headers in person they are some quality peices but they will cost you a pretty penny.

03-23-2018, 02:05 AM	#12 (permalink)
axmea? A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,235 Drives: WELL ZED PW 6MT Rep Power: 53241	What you get is not worth the effort. But if you're into "yeah it's got headers", then go for it. Put your $ and effort on cooling, suspension or a 4.08 gear instead. AstatenateZ and NismOrly22 like this. __________________ >MyZ's Album< NISMO Convert/ECUTEK/Takeda CAI/F.I. HFC NR CB Carbon/F.I. 34 Row Oil Cooler/4.08 Final Drive /Powertrix+Swifts/Hotchkis/SPL/Whiteline/TWM/Zoom Engineering/EVO-R/AeroJacket Vented CF Fenders + CF Spoiler/Avant Garde-WORK/NST/Morimoto Halo/STi Clear Lenses/Carbon Signal Automotive/RJM Performance/ZSpeed Clutch Flywheel CSC delete Last edited by axmea?; 03-23-2018 at 02:08 AM.

03-23-2018, 06:40 AM	#13 (permalink)
ZontheRocks Track Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Central Florida Posts: 958 Drives: 2016 Nissan PW 370Z Rep Power: 34535	No recommendation or mention for Motordyne LTH? Just curious.

03-23-2018, 02:48 PM	#15 (permalink)
Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684385	ssfirehawk had ppe long lth (I am not sure the before mentions pps are the same) on his supercharged z. I would say that would the only better reason to get lth. Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

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