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jbush74 12-19-2009 07:10 AM

Intake question
 
As a new 370 owner, I am debating what I want to do to the car. Should I start with intake? I have called Nissan, and they are saying about $650 to put the Nizmo intake into it. Is that good? What difference will it make? (besides looking very cool!)

Do you all usually have the dealer do work for you? I'm very concerned about screwing up the warranty.

Room42 12-19-2009 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by jbush74 (Post 331814)
As a new 370 owner, I am debating what I want to do to the car. Should I start with intake? I have called Nissan, and they are saying about $650 to put the Nizmo intake into it. Is that good? What difference will it make? (besides looking very cool!)

Do you all usually have the dealer do work for you? I'm very concerned about screwing up the warranty.


See this intake thread. It pretty much sums up. This forum likes stillen, then injen cai. Short rams do nothing except hks which does little but looks sexy.

http://www.the370z.com/intake-exhaus...ch-better.html

Room42 12-19-2009 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbush74 (Post 331814)
As a new 370 owner, I am debating what I want to do to the car. Should I start with intake? I have called Nissan, and they are saying about $650 to put the Nizmo intake into it. Is that good? What difference will it make? (besides looking very cool!)

Do you all usually have the dealer do work for you? I'm very concerned about screwing up the warranty.

see the following thread about warranty, too.
http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...-warranty.html

tommyguns 12-19-2009 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Room42 (Post 331817)
See this intake thread. It pretty much sums up. This forum likes stillen, then injen cai. Short rams do nothing except hks which does little but looks sexy.

http://www.the370z.com/intake-exhaus...ch-better.html

I'm not sure that is totally accurate. I have the Nismo R intakes and I can tell you from my seat dyno that they do make a difference. What you should consider is whether your willing to remove your front bumper every time you need to clean and recharge the filters. Hope this helps. Max gains are Stillen G3 for sure.:tiphat: The Injen intakes need splash gaurds so for me thats a RED FLAG!

theDreamer 12-19-2009 11:51 AM

Stillen Gen 3 or Injen, those are all you should really consider if you are into power gains. All the others look "nice," but not worth the extra money.
Stillen:
-Take front bumper off
-Expand a little hole to slide tube through
+Top power gains
+Filters only need to be changed/recharged every 100,000 miles
+Bumper removal is 15-20 minutes the first time, but less than 10 after that. It is just getting to know where all the pop rivets and screws are.

Injen:
-Take front bumper off
-Change washer fluid container
+Solid gains (not as much as Stillen)
+Non-oiled filters so cleaning is a breeze, but again every 50,000 miles or more

Also, I was not aware of a true Nismo intake system for the 370z yet, many shops were selling the 350z Nismo intake system which sort of fits.

m4a1mustang 12-19-2009 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tommyguns (Post 331893)
I'm not sure that is totally accurate. I have the Nismo R intakes and I can tell you from my seat dyno that they do make a difference. What you should consider is whether your willing to remove your front bumper every time you need to clean and recharge the filters. Hope this helps. Max gains are Stillen G3 for sure.:tiphat: The Injen intakes need splash gaurds so for me thats a RED FLAG!

They don't need splash guards... not sure where you got that from.

Zsteve 12-19-2009 02:59 PM

someone can feel the difference with the Nismo intake? Find that hard to belive, slight gains are very hard to feel on a day to day basis.

Trips 12-19-2009 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 331956)
They don't need splash guards... not sure where you got that from.

:iagree: for the install, bumper removal is not necessary.
you remove the wheel, and pull the splashguard back and out of the way.

tommyguns 12-19-2009 11:18 PM

Theres no way you should wait 100,000 miles to clean and recharege a filter. Believe me I have hi performance filters in all my cars and waiting more than 30,000 and your filter will look and perform like sh!t! Give it a break, be real. If you have a garage then perhaps removing the bumper is no big deal. But I have heard a few stories from members that wish they never had removed there bumper due to realignment issues.
Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 331952)
Stillen Gen 3 or Injen, those are all you should really consider if you are into power gains. All the others look "nice," but not worth the extra money.
Stillen:
-Take front bumper off
-Expand a little hole to slide tube through
+Top power gains
+Filters only need to be changed/recharged every 100,000 miles
+Bumper removal is 15-20 minutes the first time, but less than 10 after that. It is just getting to know where all the pop rivets and screws are.

Injen:
-Take front bumper off
-Change washer fluid container
+Solid gains (not as much as Stillen)
+Non-oiled filters so cleaning is a breeze, but again every 50,000 miles or more

Also, I was not aware of a true Nismo intake system for the 370z yet, many shops were selling the 350z Nismo intake system which sort of fits.


tommyguns 12-19-2009 11:20 PM

I know for sure that Injen not only sells them but advises on it.
Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 331956)
They don't need splash guards... not sure where you got that from.


Modshack 12-20-2009 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommyguns (Post 331893)
I have the Nismo R intakes and I can tell you from my seat dyno that they do make a difference.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 332151)
someone can feel the difference with the Nismo intake? Find that hard to belive, slight gains are very hard to feel on a day to day basis.

:driving: Steve...You should know from spending time here, that the Butt dyno is hands down the most accurate for measuring performance enhancements!...:stirthepot:

m4a1mustang 12-20-2009 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 333692)
:driving: Steve...You should know from spending time here, that the Butt dyno is hands down the most accurate for measuring performance enhancements!...:stirthepot:

An experienced butt can pick up mid-range gains pretty accurately, but even very experienced butts aren't going to pick up anything with the intake, as all of the gains are at the very top of the range.

Mostly what you have is psychological interference contaminating the butt-dyno's data. Aftermarket intakes make really cool noises which can translate to "power gain" even if there really isn't one.

I can say for certain that I feel nothing out of my Injens... they gained power at the very top and at around 10 whp it's so minimal and for such a brief period you can't feel it.

Exhaust on the other hand... +20 whp at mid-range is something you feel without a doubt. :tup:

370Zsteve 12-20-2009 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 332151)
someone can feel the difference with the Nismo intake? Find that hard to belive, slight gains are very hard to feel on a day to day basis.

:iagree: The so-called "seat dyno" is overwhelmed by that elusive subjective part of the brain that wants to believe........

Room42 12-20-2009 09:51 AM

Went looking around and the NISMO intakes are engineered for the 350, aren't they? I read somewhere that the heat shields may not fit a 370z. All third-hand info so I'll ready myself for the corrections, but if true and heat shields need to be altered or removed for the 370z, you may not even get the expected gains. Definitely agree to stick with Stillen or Injen based on the good info and experience on this forum for best performance gains. If you try the short ram, suggest a baseline dyno so that you can make sure you're getting at least equal performance to stock.

theDreamer 12-20-2009 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommyguns (Post 332860)
Theres no way you should wait 100,000 miles to clean and recharege a filter. Believe me I have hi performance filters in all my cars and waiting more than 30,000 and your filter will look and perform like sh!t! Give it a break, be real. If you have a garage then perhaps removing the bumper is no big deal. But I have heard a few stories from members that wish they never had removed there bumper due to realignment issues.

http://www.the370z.com/327024-post47.html
Where are you getting this information from? Taking off the bumper is easy and zero issues, please provide some information to people having problems.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommyguns (Post 332863)
I know for sure that Injen not only sells them but advises on it.

Link please?

m4a1mustang 12-20-2009 10:08 AM

Yeah -- bumper removal is ridiculously easy. The people that complain about it must lack the basic ability to operate a screw driver.

tommyguns 12-20-2009 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 333717)
http://www.the370z.com/327024-post47.html
Where are you getting this information from? Taking off the bumper is easy and zero issues, please provide some information to people having problems.



Link please?

Injen Heat Shield and Splash Gaurd

m4a1mustang 12-20-2009 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommyguns (Post 333834)

That's for a short-tube intake.

The Injens we are talking about are the long-tube ones that move the filters to the fender wells.

tommyguns 12-20-2009 11:51 AM

I'm not here to knock any product. I will do a search for the splash sheilds the are used for the long tube. Just one thing, if those were for the short ram why would they need splash gaurds, there in the engine bay and not hanging down exposed to the elements like the long tube, just a thought. I would also like to add that I'm not here to make things up, trust me they sell them. I'm not trying to be a d!ck.

theDreamer 12-20-2009 11:56 AM

Not saying you are making things up, but no one here has had any issues with either thing you are talking about. Needing splash guards or front bumper issues. I might see how with the injens so low you might need something, but you would need to be driving through standing water. Also, the bumper is meant to be removed, do you think Nissan would design it not to be? It is listed in the manual on how to do it, maybe when the person who is having issues removed it they bent something, who knows.

m4a1mustang 12-20-2009 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommyguns (Post 333859)
I'm not here to knock any product. I will do a search for the splash sheilds the are used for the long tube. Just one thing, if those were for the short ram why would they need splash gaurds, there in the engine bay and not hanging down exposed to the elements like the long tube, just a thought. I would also like to add that I'm not here to make things up, trust me they sell them. I'm not trying to be a d!ck.

Heat shields, possibly?

I have the Injen long tubes and did the install... trust me... there's no need for splash guards where they are!

tommyguns 12-20-2009 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 333894)
Heat shields, possibly?

I have the Injen long tubes and did the install... trust me... there's no need for splash guards where they are!

Thats cool but you might want to check out this link, injenairintakes.com
read the description and then go to applications page and scroll down, you will find the 2009-10/ 370 Z listed. Like I said I don't know if there needed, but I would think that there must be a chance if they sell something to prevent it. Trust me I have seen them in plastic also. Hey who am I to say whats needed its just something I read. No harm no foul right. I hope I didnt offend you in any way.

m4a1mustang 12-20-2009 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommyguns (Post 333926)
Thats cool but you might want to check out this link, injenairintakes.com
read the description and then go to applications page and scroll down, you will find the 2009-10/ 370 Z listed. Like I said I don't know if there needed, but I would think that there must be a chance if they sell something to prevent it. Trust me I have seen them in plastic also. Hey who am I to say whats needed its just something I read. No harm no foul right. I hope I didnt offend you in any way.

Given the amount that people worry about water ingestion it makes sense for them to sell hydro-shields whether they are needed or not.

I can tell you, though, that with the LT intakes they are unnecessary. The filters are housed in sealed compartments on either side of the front grille. The only way water would ever get in there is if you drove through a few feet of water.

Trips 12-20-2009 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 334276)
Given the amount that people worry about water ingestion it makes sense for them to sell hydro-shields whether they are needed or not.

I can tell you, though, that with the LT intakes they are unnecessary. The filters are housed in sealed compartments on either side of the front grille. The only way water would ever get in there is if you drove through a few feet of water.

:iagree:


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