Fast Intentions Long Tube Headers are here!

semtex · 12-22-2009, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by G37Sam

Hump Day updates please

The update is that for all the excitement and 15 pages of comments that these LTHs have generated thus far -- not to mention all the comments pushing Tony for progress updates in the previous thread -- a mere five people have signed up to actually buy.

I don't get it. Is everyone strapped for cash due to Christmas purchases or something? Or is this forum filled with a bunch of tuggers who just talk the talk but don't walk the walk? I mean, sh*t or get off the pot, people. And yes, I'm sure some of you have perfectly valid reasons for not pulling the trigger. I'm just surprised that it's taking so long to get the ten people needed for this GB is all. I mean, judging from some of the comments, it's as if many of you have been drooling and chomping at the bit for Tony to finish development on these and make them available for purchase. But now that he's done, all the demand for the product seems to have suddenly evaporated.

I'll tell you guys this much. If I were thinking of developing products for the 370Z, what has happened here would cause me to think twice in terms of trying to figure out how much genuine demand there is for new products. If we, as a community, give vendors a false and inflated sense of demand by clamoring for a product but then not buying when it's time to put our money where our mouths are, we will only succeed in shooting ourselves in our collective foot. Just sayin'

kannibul · 12-22-2009, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex

The update is that for all the excitement and 15 pages of comments that these LTHs have generated thus far -- not to mention all the comments pushing Tony for progress updates in the previous thread -- a mere five people have signed up to actually buy.

I don't get it. Is everyone strapped for cash due to Christmas purchases or something? Or is this forum filled with a bunch of tuggers who just talk the talk but don't walk the walk? I mean, sh*t or get off the pot, people. And yes, I'm sure some of you have perfectly valid reasons for not pulling the trigger. I'm just surprised that it's taking so long to get the ten people needed for this GB is all. I mean, judging from some of the comments, it's as if many of you have been drooling and chomping at the bit for Tony to finish development on these and make them available for purchase. But now that he's done, all the demand for the product seems to have suddenly evaporated.

I'll tell you guys this much. If I were thinking of developing products for the 370Z, what has happened here would cause me to think twice in terms of trying to figure out how much genuine demand there is for new products. If we, as a community, give vendors a false and inflated sense of demand by clamoring for a product but then not buying when it's time to put our money where our mouths are, we will only succeed in shooting ourselves in our collective foot. Just sayin'

For me personally, I'm waiting for the vid. Money is second to that, though, I'm strapped at the moment due to paying $2K to a credit card in an effort to getting it paid off!

I'm sure there are others that are hinging on the video.

Another point is that production isn't even set to begin until Feb...

semtex · 12-22-2009, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kannibul

For me personally, I'm waiting for the vid. Money is second to that, though, I'm strapped at the moment due to paying $2K to a credit card in an effort to getting it paid off!

I'm sure there are others that are hinging on the video.

Another point is that production isn't ven set to begin until Feb...

Oh, that's right! Thanks for reminding me. I keep forgetting that for many on this forum, the aesthetic element of sound matters more than measured gains. And no, I do not mean that as a snide, sarcastic dig towards you or anyone else. It just is what it is.

kannibul · 12-22-2009, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex

Oh, that's right! Thanks for reminding me. I keep forgetting that for many on this forum, the aesthetic element of sound matters more than measured gains. And no, I do not mean that as a snide, sarcastic dig towards you or anyone else. It just is what it is.

Measured gains aren't everything unless you're goal is just to make it a firebreather, and there's other ways to do that (TT, namely)

Also, if it sounds like sh*t, or sounds like a Civic with a fart-can...it won't sell to a number of people...yet, there are some that don't care. Myself, I don't want a RICE car, I want a good sounding performance exhaust.

It'll also depend on how loud they are - that's hard to judge by claim from the manufacturer - a consensus needs to be built. Thankfully there are a few people that will jump on it and take the first plunge.

They can report back on the difficulty of install, how much it cost them to have them install if they didn't DIY, maybe even write up a DIY article....and report back sound level changes, even post vids.

Anyhow...I know it wasn't a snub. For me, and I imagine most people, gains aren't the only thing that drives sales.

Modshack · 12-22-2009, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex

And yes, I'm sure some of you have perfectly valid reasons for not pulling the trigger. I'm just surprised that it's taking so long to get the ten people needed for this GB is all. I mean, judging from some of the comments, it's as if many of you have been drooling and chomping at the bit for Tony to finish development on these and make them available for purchase. But now that he's done, all the demand for the product seems to have suddenly evaporated.

I'll tell you guys this much. If I were thinking of developing products for the 370Z, what has happened here would cause me to think twice in terms of trying to figure out how much genuine demand there is for new products. If we, as a community, give vendors a false and inflated sense of demand by clamoring for a product but then not buying when it's time to put our money where our mouths are, we will only succeed in shooting ourselves in our collective foot. Just sayin'

No CAT provision eliminates a LOT of potential buyers (in most of the high population states)..Like it or not, the ability to get our cars registered and legal every year weighs heavily here..

A CAT'ed "Y" pipe would ease my concerns..

theDreamer · 12-22-2009, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

No CAT provision eliminates a LOT of potential buyers...

I just went crazy with my intake/exhaust for the end of the year, having to hold myself back and will probably buy around the time I get my tax refund in. Though with an ETA of February it might just be the exact same time, may as well just throw down 400 now...damn it Semtex, making now want to just throw my name on the list.

semtex · 12-22-2009, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

I just went crazy with my intake/exhaust for the end of the year, having to hold myself back and will probably buy around the time I get my tax refund in. Though with an ETA of February it might just be the exact same time, may as well just throw down 400 now...damn it Semtex, making now want to just throw my name on the list.

Do it!!!!

Actually, when I spoke to Tony over the phone, he told me the ETA is probably more like March. Makes it even more tempting, doesn't it?

DavidL · 12-22-2009, 01:57 PM

Tony , I have the FI cbe with 18'' res and carbon and really like the looks quality and sound (except the 2000-2300 drone) and am interested in the headers ,
1) How do you get the manifold sensors to reach ?
2) What is the reason for long tubes before going into one ?
3) I really am interest to know if the sound is louder , and if the design is better or worse in the drone department ?
I now have stillen headers and berk cats , and am looking for everything I can get out of the NA motor . The things I am looking for are power , light weight , quality , and sound .
I look for your response and want to thank you again for a great cbe system and great service , I have had several say they were getting one from you after seeing and riding in my car.

F.I. Inc. · 12-22-2009, 02:01 PM

The Dreamer #006, thank you for the order...

Tony

F.I. Inc. · 12-22-2009, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidL

Tony , I have the FI cbe with 18'' res and carbon and really like the looks quality and sound (except the 2000-2300 drone) and am interested in the headers ,
1) How do you get the manifold sensors to reach ?
2) What is the reason for long tubes before going into one ?
3) I really am interest to know if the sound is louder , and if the design is better or worse in the drone department ?
I now have stillen headers and berk cats , and am looking for everything I can get out of the NA motor . The things I am looking for are power , light weight , quality , and sound .
I look for your response and want to thank you again for a great cbe system and great service , I have had several say they were getting one from you after seeing and riding in my car.

David,

I will try to get to you this afternoon on this...

Thanks, Tony

F.I. Inc. · 12-23-2009, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidL

Tony , I have the FI cbe with 18'' res and carbon and really like the looks quality and sound (except the 2000-2300 drone) and am interested in the headers ,
1) How do you get the manifold sensors to reach ?
2) What is the reason for long tubes before going into one ?
3) I really am interest to know if the sound is louder , and if the design is better or worse in the drone department ?
I now have stillen headers and berk cats , and am looking for everything I can get out of the NA motor . The things I am looking for are power , light weight , quality , and sound .
I look for your response and want to thank you again for a great cbe system and great service , I have had several say they were getting one from you after seeing and riding in my car.

David,

1) You will have to extend your front O2 sensors. I will supply detailed instructions with the headers that everyone will need to adhere to! I will also supply all of the wire pre cut to the specific length along with heat shrink tubing. Eventually, we plan to make plug and play adapters but getting the plugs are not easy.

2) I am assuming that you are referring to the collector at the bottom! That is what gives you all of your torque. If you were to just dump the four tube into a piece of 2.5" tubing the header would not perform correctly. You would create alot of turbulence at the merging point of the four tubes. The reason we chose to make a long tube, is due to the fact that we feel there is not much improvement to be had with a shorty header over the stock manifold. Nissan did a very good job designing the stock exhaust manifolds and it looks very close to the design of a header in itself.

3) The sound has become louder outside of the car and quieter inside the car. Reason being, the tone is not as deep and Bass. Do not get me wrong, it still sounds great. Just slightly higher pitched and even more exotic.

Given what your overall goals are, we can help you achieve them. You along with Semtex have Stillen shorty headers and Berk HFC's. He has dyno charts that prove once the Stillen headers went on, he lost torque and picked up very little power in an un usable RPM range. Meaning he only picked up power at THE VERY TOP end. I am pleased that you are happy with our cat back and anything you need in the future, please do not hesitate to ask...

Thank you, Tony

G37Sam · 12-23-2009, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by F.I. Inc.

3) The sound has become louder outside of the car and quieter inside the car. Reason being, the tone is not as deep and Bass. Do not get me wrong, it still sounds great. Just slightly higher pitched and even more exotic.

Am I the only one that read that as:

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He sticked his penis into her vagina and slid back and forth. Her boobs were right by his mouth and he licked them perfectly. She screamed and moaned and yelled "FASTER! HARDER! I WANT MOREEEEE!!".

Just saying, it sounded pornographic hahaha

IvoryG · 12-23-2009, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by F.I. Inc.

1) You will have to extend your front O2 sensors. I will supply detailed instructions with the headers that everyone will need to adhere to! I will also supply all of the wire pre cut to the specific length along with heat shrink tubing. Eventually, we plan to make plug and play adapters but getting the plugs are not easy.

Tony, if you get a chance take a pic of the connector and post it. I will try to find them.

kannibul · 12-22-2009, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

No CAT provision eliminates a LOT of potential buyers (in most of the high population states)..Like it or not, the ability to get our cars registered and legal every year weighs heavily here..

A CAT'ed "Y" pipe would ease my concerns..

Just curious, but couldn't someone replace the resonators in the back section with cats?

That, or like you said, make the X-Pipe have the cats integrated there? (I think that's what you're suggesting)

I guess what I'm asking is that I don't know if there's a requirement for the cats to be as close to the engine as possible or not.

G37Sam · 12-22-2009, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex

The update is that for all the excitement and 15 pages of comments that these LTHs have generated thus far -- not to mention all the comments pushing Tony for progress updates in the previous thread -- a mere five people have signed up to actually buy.

I don't get it. Is everyone strapped for cash due to Christmas purchases or something? Or is this forum filled with a bunch of tuggers who just talk the talk but don't walk the walk? I mean, sh*t or get off the pot, people. And yes, I'm sure some of you have perfectly valid reasons for not pulling the trigger. I'm just surprised that it's taking so long to get the ten people needed for this GB is all. I mean, judging from some of the comments, it's as if many of you have been drooling and chomping at the bit for Tony to finish development on these and make them available for purchase. But now that he's done, all the demand for the product seems to have suddenly evaporated.

I'll tell you guys this much. If I were thinking of developing products for the 370Z, what has happened here would cause me to think twice in terms of trying to figure out how much genuine demand there is for new products. If we, as a community, give vendors a false and inflated sense of demand by clamoring for a product but then not buying when it's time to put our money where our mouths are, we will only succeed in shooting ourselves in our collective foot. Just sayin'

I don't know about the others but Tony asked me to hold on till they confirm fitment on the G37. Till then my money is ready and I'm good to go. I don't know why you quoted me in the first place

I'm sure once the video's are out and that Italian Mandrel is in Tony's hand people will start coming in.. Even more will come in once people start writing reviews. Personally I know 2 people who are just waiting to hear them on my car before they order them. It really is more of a chain reaction kind of thing.

12-22-2009, 01:57 PM	#8 (permalink)
DavidL Base Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Fort Worth TX Posts: 13 Drives: Nissan 370z Rep Power: 16	questions for tony on headers Tony , I have the FI cbe with 18'' res and carbon and really like the looks quality and sound (except the 2000-2300 drone) and am interested in the headers , 1) How do you get the manifold sensors to reach ? 2) What is the reason for long tubes before going into one ? 3) I really am interest to know if the sound is louder , and if the design is better or worse in the drone department ? I now have stillen headers and berk cats , and am looking for everything I can get out of the NA motor . The things I am looking for are power , light weight , quality , and sound . I look for your response and want to thank you again for a great cbe system and great service , I have had several say they were getting one from you after seeing and riding in my car.

12-22-2009, 02:01 PM	#9 (permalink)
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