Just wondering of the three i know of, (PPE, FI, Motordyne) which one is worth the money in terms of gains? Also what does the ceramic coating option really do
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Just wondering of the three i know of, (PPE, FI, Motordyne) which one is worth the money in terms of gains? Also what does the ceramic coating option really do besides withstand high heat and look cooler? Thanks in advance.
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Your going to have to get a tune after you install these. That's a drastic change in the exhaust setup and the ECU is not tuned for that. You will probably not notice any difference in power without a tune. You might even feel less.
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Mine rasps. I've got the Motordyne with HFCs and Borla CBE and it rasps at about 3k. At least I assume that's what you are speaking of.
If you go with Motordyne, you'll have to extend the O2 sensor cables. I had mine done at Dynosty and they extended them. Not sure exactly how they did it, because you can't solder the wires. I love them though. Sounds REALLY awesome when you go through a tunnel.
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And agree on the o2 sensors, I bought 20 guages automotive wires and my mechanic soldered them to the sensors and it worked well. As far as quality, I can assure both MD and FI are high quality.
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You really don't need a tune unless you do all 3. That is a cai, lth's, and cbe. The ECU will handle lth's by their self and with one other breathing mod. I have the FI LTH, 12" resonators, cbe and G3 cai. The ceramic coating helps keep the heat in the tubes, increasing exhaust velocity. Which is best is a personal choice. They all make about the same gains. You also forgot about the Z1 shorty's. They make about the same power.
Which ever you choose. Remove the O2 sensors first! DO NOT USE an impact gun on them. The right side will take you about 1.5 hours, counting beer breaks. The left side will take you 6+ hours and lots of cussing. It's best to move the manifold and down pipe together as one. This way, you don't have to mess with the demon bolts. Solder the wire extension together for the O2 sensors. Don't cheap out here. Been there, done that!
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But I felt a lot of torque in low-mid rpm.
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Get ceramic coating done. Reduced under hood temps, increased scavenging, protects the metal, and looks better.
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Ceramic coatings help reduce engine bay heat but are easy to damage, IMO a heat wrap is much more effective but not as nice looking.
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I totally agree! I bought the F1 LTH. But I am trying to stay NA for now and later get supercharger. Not sure on Motordyne but I wasn't impressed with their intake when used with the LTH and don't waste your money on the PPE. They are cheap and worthless at least from my research when looking at LTH. After a tune I had nice gains for HP and Torque. One of the best IMO of the add ons for NA. But they are pricey. In regards to PPE, maybe I was confused with the knock offs. I discussed with my mechanic friends and he agreed to stay away but to each their own Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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