Admin 3" Long Tube Intakes

Rusty

That's not good.

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Elmo370z

O wow. I would address monceif himself about this

1cintron

not at all.


I will try reaching out to him...

On the meantime, for any other member here who have these intakes, can you verify yours look the same or similar inside?

Chuck33079

Dude, that's just not possible. Facebook says this guy makes great parts and is the bestest tuner for my mad tyte cambered out jalopy.

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Elmo370z

I would send those intakes back, as for a refund or get him to fix it. Be civil as possible and if he turns out to be a d bag blast him. Call your CC company and file a dispute.

MoncefVQ

Hey everyone,

My name is Moncef and I am the owner of AdminTuning. I designed the intakes and have them built in Houston TX.

Thank you for your feedback here. As far as apples to apples dynos against the Stillen G3 intakes, I do not have one. However, I have had customers who go back to the same shop after switching intakes and nothing else who have picked up anywhere from 10-12whp over OTHER aftermarket intakes such as the Z1Motorsports intakes as well as Injen intakes (which we originally tested against on the older 35HR engines).

The ONLY test that I have vs G3s was tuned vs tuned, but the client added throttle bodies in between.

I will disagree with you on your comment on the throttle bodies, since these intakes have made 22whp over stock airboxes on a bone stock car with stock throttle bodies and only MAF scaling. This means stock ignition timing, stock VVEL, stock cam tables, etc. The Base Fuel Schedule in UpRev did not change enough to create an indirect positive shift in ignition timing either. In my experience on tuning these cars (and 8 years of tuning VQ based engines) I have found that most of the horsepower gain with tuning only is attributed to tuning the ignition timing and tuning the cams. You will not gain 22whp or even half that off of AF tuning alone, that is why I think this is a valid test.

Once again, throttle bodies are not necessary. They are nice but not necessary.

I have never told anyone to tune their cars with a CAI only. Yes my intakes require a tune but I have always marketed it to people with exhaust upgrades first. I have suggested a lot of potential customers to buy test pipes and cat-backs before touching my intake and then tune all at once. The exhaust is a more primary restriction on these cars (370/G37) than anything else. If the customer wants a tune on a stock cat back with my parts on it after being disclosed that information, I am happy to do so.

The cost of production and testing and the final results are contributing factors to the final price. I don't make claims with only BS or fake news behind them. I first tested the 3" CAI idea on the 350Z HR with nothing but positive results (8-11whp on TOP of a tuned car with Injen intakes originally, from ~5000 RPM to redline - bear in mind the Injen intakes are already 3" up to the MAF sensor housing where they reduce down to 2.5). and then fabbed a kit for the VHR cars. Afterwards, there was a lot of chatter about testing them on a bone stock car so that is what we did.

Luis, you had purchased these through EPS, if you have an issue with the product, please reach out to me directly. My # is 319.899.9763.
Thanks everyone for the feedback,

You can PM me here or email me at moncef.faik@gmail.com or contact me at the number above.

juicinjake

The EPS adapter is set at 63mm on the back side to match the stock manifolds, not 58mm. We designed it to perfectly bolt up to a stock manifold. We do a mild port match on ported intake manifolds like the Z1 and others. We also offer a full bore 70mm plate for the aam intake manifold and other aftermarket aluminum manifolds that can easily be ported out to that dimension. in developmental dyno testing we saw more power with a 3" intake and a 3.5" intake (same length, iat, oil temp, coolant temp and everything) on every single test, than we did with anything smaller. one does not reason how airflow works, they merely test it. the tests show that the larger intake tubes made power on all throttle body configurations. Our 70mm tbs coupled with a 3" intake is the sweet spot for most people, and thats why there have been numerous dyno tests that showed this, since i did mine. I dont recommend going as large as 3.5" on the old style uprev vvel maps, as there are some response issues that most tuners wont be able to sort out, but I have yet to retest with the new ones.

Rusty

You have a couple of dyno charts to post up? Civil question.

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MoncefVQ

Hi,

I'm Moncef, I designed this intake system. I also tune these cars and other platforms.

The tune is only going to make power when there is enough airflow to support it. VHRs with short ram intakes that I have dyno tuned have gained less power than the same engines with CAIs, not just mine.

The 3" intakes make power with stock throttle bodies, I tested my intakes on a bone stock G37 and made 22whp from just the intake swap and rescaling the MAF. I left the ignition timing, VVEL, and cam tables stock. There was no indirect change in ignition timing due to the shift in base fuel schedule either.

This.

Let me know how it goes and if you need help shoot me an email. moncef.faik@gmail.com.

I have proven that my intakes make power on the stock throttle bodies and on a bone stock car with stock everything else.

This is incorrect, I do not "push" clients to get their stock cars tuned, my intakes hold their position in the marketplace as a final upgrade for people who are wrapping up their bolt-on "builds". I always tell potential customers that it is in their best interest to have at least test pipes and a good exhaust behind their intakes. If they want the intakes and tune beforehand after I disclose this to them, then I'll proceed.

EPS throttle bodies are great to have and yes I sell them. But like I mentioned before, my intakes make power with stock throttle bodies (and stock everything else).

Whether or not they are worth it is subjective, but the cost is a function of the investment in design, testing, production and support. There is no BS that is being spread as I already have proven these intakes make power over the stock ones, and my customers have made power over Injen intakes (~11whp) and Z1Motorsports intakes (~11whp) with mine on both 07-08 350Z HR engines and 09+ 370Z/G37 VHR engines.



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Mods - sorry if this is a double post. My original post appears to have been deleted/lost.

If anyone has any questions let me know. I'm not here to push my stuff but I wanted to clear some of this information up for you all.

Rusty

I would like to see what the power looks like. If it's fattening up the middle also, or is it mostly top end.

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MoncefVQ

It's usually 5,500 RPM and up, but when we tested intakes and throttle bodies together we saw a good midrange gain as well. Throttle bodies typically broaden the peak area and we have seen this on old DEs as well.

I have a couple of dyno sheets here: AdminTuning Infiniti G37 Nissan 370Z VQ37VHR 3" Long Tube Intake System

The one on the Dynojet was the stock car. There is a video about it as well if you scroll down.

The dyno sheet that has a black background was Stillen G3s with stock TBs, vs AdminTuning intakes + EPS TBs. Both runs were tuned. You can see the midrange gain there and nearly 20whp gain at 6000 RPM.

MoncefVQ

I'd love to post them but I don't think this website allows external links, (I have already attempted posting links in this thread) I have them on my site. The gains from an intake swap only, or intake swap + MAF corrections will always show where the stock parts become a restriction. Other parts of the tune will increase power in other areas in many cases.

So yes it is mostly top end, ~5,000 to redline. Still a relevant part of your powerband though.

I had a customer test out Stillen G3 intakes + stock TBs + tune vs my intakes + EPS TBs + tune and he gained a lot under the curve, starting around 4,000 RPM, 20whp at 6,000 RPM, gained 12whp at peak (power jumped from 325whp to 337whp), and 16-18whp from peak to redline. I won't speculate on what part attributed to the bulk of the gains but it was a substantial gain over an already powerful combination.

Eagle

This seems to be the go to response from you and your fanbase whenever someone starts asking questions about why they should go with Admin Tuning. Honestly I'm not sure why this is even a point of discussion, no one is disputing that your setup makes power and no one here is trying to discredit that. The only thing that should be highlighted to potential buyers of this system is that there are additional costs of ownership not needed in other CAI systems...such as the MAF scaling (which if I understand correctly is an ECU tune but limited only to the MAF values).

I think this needs to be clearer because I've seen responses from you on the Facebook pages where you say that MAF scaling is required, from a purely cost based perspective...this is the same as paying for a full blown tune, correct?

I disagree. Actually i think it's quite the contrary, it's purely objective. If you do the math and consider what it costs to purchase, MAF scale or tune and add on throttle bodies vs what it costs to purchase any of your competitors CAI systems and then compare the power gained, you will have a cost benefit/analysis that is going to point them in the other direction.

I've said it before, if your intakes came in at basically the same price or lower than your best competitor and did not require the MAF scaling. I'd probably buy Admin instead of whatever I have now.

Not sure what's going on but you should have no problems linking to anything external to this site... for example I can link to your youtube video from your website

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhcYtV-dvjU

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MoncefVQ

The vast majority of the Z community is paying to get their cars tuned regardless of what intakes they buy. So it is in their best interest to buy a powerful intake in preparation for their tuning session. MAF tuning is done when your car is tuned regardless of what intake it has on it. Buy the intakes, have your shop put them on and tune the car, put them on yourself, have your tuner send you a tune, etc. It is up to the customer, they can pick.


It is not the same as paying for a full tune. If I was approached by a client to do the bare minimum to have his car drive on these intakes, I would charge him for just that, not a full blown tune which involves fully optimizing the car's calibration for the intakes and the user's other mods. Like I mentioned before, the practical strategy for many customers is to buy the intakes to finish out their bolt on combination, and get a full tune from their tuner (or myself if they choose) and continue enjoying their car.

The MAF rescaling was only meant for testing purposes to test the intakes on a bone stock car for those who wanted to know what they would do with all OEM restrictions in place.

Agree to disagree, since my intakes don't require large throttle bodies. If a customer is putting parts on their car based on the typical chokepoints of these engines, they would do it most likely like this:

Test pipes/HFCs
Exhaust (and Y pipe if going single exit)
Headers (optional, worthwhile gain regardless)
Intakes (at this point, they'd be ready to tune the car) + tune

So ultimately, they are spending the same for a tune, the same for the exhaust components, and ~$140 more for my intakes as opposed to G3s (assuming G3s still sell for $495).

Justint5387

Bumping the thread... Does the Admin Intake require cutting like the Stillen?