New guy, exhaust question
 

I just bought a 2017 base and have a couple questions... I love the car... LOVE !! ,but I'm looking to make it more appealing to my ears, i'm more than satisfied with the stock performance (over 45 yrs old :)) but would like to know what the cheapest and easiest alternative to the stock exhaust system is.... I don't want to get into any tuning stuff and was not looking to change the intake system or anything else, just a better sounding exhaust note.... Ideas ? Perhaps somebody else was looking for the same thing I'm looking for and achieved great results I love to hear from you :)

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You need to ask yourself if you want "loud" or a good exhaust note. I wanted good exhaust note with a little loud. So I went with Fast Intentions. Love it!! And here recently I wanted to go louder sense my car is a weekend car and not a DD so I took out the cats and installed Test Pipes. You will not need any tune or anything, good rule of thumb is you need to do 3 breather mods before a tune. Good Luck..

Also a used Fast Intensions set up will run you $800-1100. Or the absolutely cheap option is to pick you up some "short tails" But ill warn you its extremely loud and to me sounds like a bag of as* holes... But hey its your car...:driving:

If you're not concerned about performance, look for axle back systems that are a lot cheaper and can add some hp. check ebay. or search "axle back exhaust, 370z.They sell a ton of systems out there! Good luck and enjoy!

I would suggest a cat back system from either fast intentions, motordyne, or Ark. I personally went with fast intentions because it was the best combination of power gain, sound quality, and price. The ark is the deepest in sound and its a great sound. It's doenst have as proven of a record for power gain over the others but you said you don't care about that. The motordyne sounds incredible but it's the highest price and maybe a bit harder for you to daily if your not looking for something as in your face. The disadvantage of the fast intentions is about a three months wait because they are custom built to order to your specs. It will be easier to find a used fast intentions setup because they are so popular. I would recommend getting together with your local z club and actually hear some of these. Let the sound, in person, make your decision. Also call fast intentions and speak with them about their setup. They will be happy to speak with you and I've never seen a company with more care for customer services than them.

The easiest, least involved, least expensive would be muffler delete short tails.

Fast intention exhaust used for sale now by forum member topgunz...no wait.

I suggest a resonated axle back, check eBay. For me, Short tails, non resonated, are too loud.

I don't get it. Everyone says the short tails are loud, and they're not. If you're still using the stock cats and stock resonated mid-pipes, adding short tails does NOT make the exhaust loud. Yes, it's louder than stock, by a large margin, but it's not loud like a straight pipe or open headers.

Hell, my brother's bone stock Fiat 500 Abarth is louder than my Z with the short tails.

Invidia gemini is what I just bought. Less expensive than some, excellent fitment, barely louder than stock at idle and cruising but a good rumble when you step on it. Sounds much better than stock.

I recommend gthaus meisterchaft full exhaust, excellent sound

Is the system you're talking about just a replacement for the rear section after the axle or do I have to do a complete switch over to go with fast intentions? I think from what I've been reading that axle back is what I'm interested in and I'm looking for what would provide me with the best little louder than stock sound I'm looking for a nice throaty, exotic sound, need the car to sound a little bit more like it looks

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the washer mod

If you want an easy way to alter the sound without spending $$$ on a full catback, look at AAM short tails. You can get them resonated or not, to help discourage drone at certain RPMs:

AAM Competition - Nissan GT-R, 370Z Turbo Performance Specialists

The cheapest way to do it is to go to your local muffler shop and ask for a muffler delete. They should have exhaust tips you can chose from as well. Would cost about $150. However, if you're sold on getting brand new name-brand parts, scroll down to the Marketplace section and check out the Sponsor Classifieds 'Exhaust/Intake' area. They'll have what you will need for great prices.

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I'm in the same boat. I'm happy with the performance, but would like the car a little louder. I'm looking into just the GT Haus Meisterschaft GTS axle back. It's far from cheap, but has a very nice sound. I don't know how just the muffler will sound on an all stock car.

I've read that a full cat back system can cause noticeable power loss in the low to mid range without any other breather mods. I'm trying to avoid that by just upgrading the muffler.

I've always wondered, those of you running the short tails and/or test pipes, what do you do about emissions and inspections? Do you just swap everything out each year or are your states more lenient?

Curious as to where you heard that. I run a F.I. catback and have no noticeable loss in power anywhere in the rpm range.

Several posts on this forum state there will be low end power loss with any breather mod with high end gains. I prefer the lower end over the high. Here's one thread I found quickly: http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...ust-setup.html

Which that probably points more towards intakes. I'll have to do some more digging.

Here's a reference: http://www.the370z.com/1828765-post435.html

I'll trust the dyno sheets that show power gains throughout the range over what people "feel" when they install a mod.

370Z "TDX" Cat Back Exhaust System, Fast Intentions

Gains are clear all throughout the entire rpm band. Only time I've heard of possibly losing power is if you go with a 3" system on a N\A vehicle due to backpressure changes.

gthaus x2

Short tails/axle back mods have zero effect on passing/failing. Test pipe runners will either swap them out or get the car inspected at a shop that will pass it with a wink. Ask around - almost all local forums or FB groups have a section on this.

As for GT Haus, if money is no object and you're dead set against a full catback go ahead. For that price you could also get a Motordyne Shockwave E370 system which sounds incredible - have heard in person and can vouch.

axleback

no mufflers

fail

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No mufflers are illegal in NC. Maybe other states are different.

I'm still looking around. I haven't decided what I want to do yet. I wish I could hear the different exhaust systems in person. I live in an area where there aren't many Zs.

Haven't had that issue in the midwest, sorry to assume. So do you want to only go axle-back or are you open to complete systems depending on sound? I just think $2K for a muffler is insane, that's a price more in line with mods for a six figure car.

i swap my muffler deletes every year to pass

test pipe swap would sux

I honestly don't know what I'm going to do yet. If low to mid range power loss truly isn't an issue with a full cat back I would consider it as well as an axle back.

I've emailed GT Haus some questions, I'm waiting to hear back. I actually found the Meisterschaft for $1500 new, but you're right, that is a lot of money. If I could hear it in person on an all stock car to be sure it's what I want, I would spend it. I wish I had never came across the Meisterschaft clips. I think it sounds really nice.

I'm not a fan of the Fast Intentions clips I've heard. Fast Intentions seems to be the most recommended, but I don't think it's for me. Perhaps the several clips of different configurations I've heard just doesn't do it justice.

I'm not looking for anything crazy. I don't want it ear bleeding loud, no drone, and a nice tone.

I'm sorry OP for hijacking your thread :).

Go to a local meet and hear them in person. Clips on the internet are too dependent on your speakers to get a good idea of how something sounds.

If only it was that easy Chuck. There are no Z meets in my area. I go to a couple Cars and Coffees each month plus any car shows I can make. Often times my Z is the only one there. There are only a handful of Zs in my area, and even less 370s.

Try posting in your region here and see if anyone will let you come check their exhaust out. A good exhaust is pricey enough to make a little more research time well spent.

Fast Intentions 18" Resonated - Deep, refined and smooth. No drone
Motordyne Shockwave - Exotic, more rumble/burble. Drone
GT Haus axle-back - Decent noise increase. No drone
AAM short tails - Slightly louder than GT Haus. Slight drone
Top Speed axle back - Slight noise increase over stock. No drone

Axle-back parts have pretty similar sound characteristics between each other since you're changing a small section of piping that essentially just controls volume. As for a full cat-back, low-end changes will hardly be noticeable if at all unless you get something >2.5" piping (don't). You can also disconnect your battery during install to reset the ECU and help it learn the change quicker.

For $2,000 you can get a Fast Intentions catback, RJM clutch pedal, and Eibach sway bars OR a GT Haus muffler. Option 1 improves the driving experience across the board, option 2 makes your car louder.

Where in nc are you located at

I'm near Asheville.

On my 2011 I had a CNT Racing cat-back... LOVED the sound it made and is one of the least costly options for our cars. I now have the Invidia Gemini and I prefer the CNT.

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Only thing I disagree with there is that the Motordyne drone is almost nonexistent in my opinion. Meanwhile, the AAM short tails do have a moderate amount of drone from my experience.

The fact of the matter is most exhausts on the Z drone to some degree. Not a whole lot of sound deadening in these from the factory. Unless you mod the cats you'll probably not notice much change cruising at 60-70mph in 6th though.

So if we're talking "highway drone" with the Motordyne then no it isn't too noticeable, but around town cruising in anything lower than 6th gear between 2-3K you'll feel the throttle in your ears - HOWEVER, its totally worth it and not a nuisance because the sound is so, so sweet