Exhaust\Intake setup - needs some advise

madeinjapan · 08-04-2016, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Yes, most of the boosted zs here are street cars. Is this news? We know you're a complete moron, but even you should have been able to figure that out. Is it asking too much for you to actually read some threads and learn something, or are there too many shopping carts out in the parking lot that need to be brought back into the store and you just don't have the time?

a street car doesnt get hot either

Chuck33079 · 08-04-2016, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by madeinjapan

a street car doesnt get too hot either

Are you somehow claiming that the heat is similar between track and street cars? We know you're mentally challenged, but even you cannot be that stupid and still manage to use a computer.

madeinjapan · 08-04-2016, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Are you somehow claiming that the heat is similar between track and street cars? We know you're mentally challenged, but even you cannot be that stupid and still manage to use a computer.

no one drives turbo zs they just sit in the garage and at car shows

youre right

toooooooooooooooooooooooo hot to drive them

Chuck33079 · 08-04-2016, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by madeinjapan

no one drives turbo zs they just sit in the garage and at car shows

youre right

toooooooooooooooooooooooo hot to drive them

People drive them, but one of the reasons you don't see many of them on track is heat, you dumb son of a whore. I drive mine. My friends drive theirs. But we don't track them. Pretty much the only guy here with a turbo Z that tracks it a lot is djtodd.

Also, you realize the OP is in the Middle East, right? Where it is insanely hot all the time? Do they teach geography in special ed classes, or do you just color and build things with popsicle sticks?

madeinjapan · 08-04-2016, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

People drive them, but one of the reasons you don't see many of them on track is heat, you dumb son of a whore. I drive mine. My friends drive theirs. But we don't track them. Pretty much the only guy here with a turbo Z that tracks it a lot is djtodd.

Also, you realize the OP is in the Middle East, right? Where it is insanely hot all the time? Do they teach geography in special ed classes, or do you just color and build things with popsicle sticks?

Chuck33079 · 08-04-2016, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by madeinjapan

Did you just use a picture of a V8 swapped Z with nitrous drifting to prove your point about turboed Zs on a track? Really?

JARblue · 08-04-2016, 09:42 AM

OP, as much as I love the R2C intakes, the metal piping is just too much for this engine bay. I've had them for 4 years now and over 50K miles, and they heat soak the crap out of the engine. You may not encounter it too much on the track, but they will be hotter than alternatives like Z1 post-MAF tubes + stock intake boxes with aftermarket filters or the Z1 full CAI.

I wish there was a lot more data on IATs and engine bay temps in general when considered hood vents. I think I've decided Fujimura has the best hood/vent design for heat evacuation.

AlWakRa · 08-04-2016, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Did you just use a picture of a V8 swapped Z with nitrous drifting to prove your point about turboed Zs on a track? Really?

He should be an idiot to not know how a vq37 should sound.

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Get an OBD scanner or water temp gauge, then. Switch to straight water and water wetter. Then see if the water temps are in line with what you should be seeing. The stock gauge isn't linear, and it's kinda hard to tell exactly how hot it's running. A vented hood would do wonders as well, especially since rain really isn't something you should be too worried about. Given your climate, if you plan on a lot of track time Z1's power steering cooler might need to be on your list as well.

At the end of the day, gears and a better diff would make you faster around the track than swapping out bolt ons.You can switch to TPs or headers, but you'll only pick up ~10whp over the HFCs you have and it's not a cheap move once you factor in labor.

Appreciate the informative replay, I will be looking in OBD scanners to get for sure, vented hood is something I was looking for, I checked if I can get a lightweight + vented hood but looks like I will be going on having vents on OEM hood.

Yeah labor cost is a consideration, but If I am going to spend, I want to make it in one go, however I found art pipes somehow locally, I will try to work it out and I will do the swap and sell my HFC, otherwise I will stick with what I got.

Coilovers, alignment kit, diff, gears would wait until I find the car limiting me.

Rains this year were more than what we used to but I drove the car just one time in rain (returning from track), climate isn't bad, but I don't want the car to limit me when it's quite hot. Mostly, it will be under 30 Celsius (86 F) because the season begins on September, but there is odd days where it could reach 40 C (104 F). This summer some claims it has been as high as 140 F

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Originally Posted by JARblue

OP, as much as I love the R2C intakes, the metal piping is just too much for this engine bay. I've had them for 4 years now and over 50K miles, and they heat soak the crap out of the engine. You may not encounter it too much on the track, but they will be hotter than alternatives like Z1 post-MAF tubes + stock intake boxes with aftermarket filters or the Z1 full CAI.

I wish there was a lot more data on IATs and engine bay temps in general when considered hood vents. I think I've decided Fujimura has the best hood/vent design for heat evacuation.

So, this decides it, either Z1 or Stillen CAI and position Mine's air scoops to blow air on them directly. Prefer them as dry filter is an option

as far as hood, yeah it is consideration, right, as we are already talking about track setups

will a vented fenders do their job?

Thanks a lot JARblue and Chuck for being informative

JARblue · 08-04-2016, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by AlWakRa

So, this decides it, either Z1 or Stillen CAI and position Mine's air scoops to blow air on them directly. Prefer them as dry filter is an option

as far as hood, yeah it is consideration, right, as we are already talking about track setups

will a vented fenders do their job?

AEM and R2C make a dry filter for the stock air boxes

Although the R2C ones have been virtually impossible to find, I just recently heard there was a ship somewhere in the Atlantic with them on its way here.

I doubt vented fenders by themselves are sufficient for full on track brake cooling. Stillen makes a brake cooling kit you want. Although you'll need a Stillen or OEM non-Nismo front bumper to install it without modification. And the kit for the OEM bumper costs extra.

madeinjapan · 08-04-2016, 01:45 PM

Chuck33079 · 08-04-2016, 01:45 PM

Who brought up drifting? OP was talking about track days.

madeinjapan · 08-04-2016, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Who brought up drifting? OP was talking about track days.

street - drift - track - drag

no turbo z ever

tooooooooooo hot

AlWakRa · 08-04-2016, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

AEM and R2C make a dry filter for the stock air boxes

Although the R2C ones have been virtually impossible to find, I just recently heard there was a ship somewhere in the Atlantic with them on its way here.

I doubt vented fenders by themselves are sufficient for full on track brake cooling. Stillen makes a brake cooling kit you want. Although you'll need a Stillen or OEM non-Nismo front bumper to install it without modification. And the kit for the OEM bumper costs extra.

Yeah, I have the stock bumper and even with the additional cost it will stay cheaper than buying stillen bumper + their brake ducts

I may go with vented fenders later on

Chuck33079 · 08-04-2016, 03:45 PM

Don't forget good rotors when you're thinking about brake cooling. Two piece rotors run much cooler.

BGTV8 · 08-04-2016, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Get an OBD scanner or water temp gauge, then. Switch to straight water and water wetter. Then see if the water temps are in line with what you should be seeing. The stock gauge isn't linear, and it's kinda hard to tell exactly how hot it's running. A vented hood would do wonders as well, especially since rain really isn't something you should be too worried about. Given your climate, if you plan on a lot of track time Z1's power steering cooler might need to be on your list as well.

At the end of the day, gears and a better diff would make you faster around the track than swapping out bolt ons.You can switch to TPs or headers, but you'll only pick up ~10whp over the HFCs you have and it's not a cheap move once you factor in labor.

^^^ I agree

08-04-2016, 09:42 AM	#22 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	OP, as much as I love the R2C intakes, the metal piping is just too much for this engine bay. I've had them for 4 years now and over 50K miles, and they heat soak the crap out of the engine. You may not encounter it too much on the track, but they will be hotter than alternatives like Z1 post-MAF tubes + stock intake boxes with aftermarket filters or the Z1 full CAI. I wish there was a lot more data on IATs and engine bay temps in general when considered hood vents. I think I've decided Fujimura has the best hood/vent design for heat evacuation. AlWakRa and jrb55gh like this. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

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Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	Who brought up drifting? OP was talking about track days. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

08-04-2016, 03:45 PM	#29 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	Don't forget good rotors when you're thinking about brake cooling. Two piece rotors run much cooler. AlWakRa likes this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

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