Test Pipe vs HFC

FPenvy · 03-11-2016, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by p3t3rc

i hope to go FI within 6 months or so.. my friends are telling me to do more research on a SC kit instead of a TT kit. kinda torn at the moment. do i keep the parts off? not really worried about putting the parts on more so then doing any unnecessary modifications to the car that i cant revert.

SS looking at the sophia project now but is there any thoughts you can add to this? Thanks.

you have bad friends then lol

SC is super limited to what power levels you can reach. then again i dont know your end goals for power.

also intakes and exhaust are easy mods to take back off and whatnot.

p3t3rc · 03-11-2016, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

you have bad friends then lol

SC is super limited to what power levels you can reach. then again i dont know your end goals for power.

also intakes and exhaust are easy mods to take back off and whatnot.

Lolz.. perhaps i do.. they made an argument about reliability.. not the most knowledgeable about my car so i turned to the forums to get all the info.. lol

as far as the intakes installation goes.. just dont want to cut the intake air duct if i didnt have to.

Chuck33079 · 03-11-2016, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by p3t3rc

i hope to go FI within 6 months or so.. my friends are telling me to do more research on a SC kit instead of a TT kit. kinda torn at the moment. do i keep the parts off? not really worried about putting the parts on more so then doing any unnecessary modifications to the car that i cant revert.

SS looking at the sophia project now but is there any thoughts you can add to this? Thanks.

There are far more members with popped motors from super chargers than turbos.

Elmo370z · 03-11-2016, 02:10 PM

The highest supercharged Z was i believe SS fireahawk who made 550whp, but that gtm kit had its problems. turbo goes to some guy in texas who made 768whp.Both stock blocks

Chuck33079 · 03-11-2016, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z

The highest supercharged Z was i believe SS fireahawk who made 550whp, but that gtm kit had its problems. turbo goes to some guy in texas who made 768whp.Both stock blocks

And SS's car never seemed to make that amount of power anywhere but gtms dyno if I remember right.

Elmo370z · 03-11-2016, 02:31 PM

gotcha

p3t3rc · 03-11-2016, 02:54 PM

ill have to weigh the pros and cons i suppose. SS do you like your SC? Do you have an input on it? any thoughts will be appreciated.

Chuck33079 · 03-11-2016, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by p3t3rc

ill have to weigh the pros and cons i suppose. SS do you like your SC? Do you have an input on it? any thoughts will be appreciated.

Ss sold that car a long time ago. And that kit never ran right and isn't available. Your only sc option is stillen, and that kit has significant drawbacks.

p3t3rc · 03-11-2016, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Ss sold that car a long time ago. And that kit never ran right and isn't available. Your only sc option is stillen, and that kit has significant drawbacks.

Was trying to get input over TT vs SC.. The SC kit that I'm looking at is stillen and they are local.. But seems like I should get the tuner kit instead of the all in one kit that they offer. Or I read that somewhere I think.

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TerribleONE · 03-11-2016, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

There are far more members with popped motors from super chargers than turbos.

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Ss sold that car a long time ago. And that kit never ran right and isn't available. Your only sc option is stillen, and that kit has significant drawbacks.

Chuck33079 · 03-11-2016, 03:35 PM

There's a LOT of threads on the stillen kit, as well as your available turbo options.

SS_Firehawk · 03-11-2016, 05:15 PM

I'll add input when I have some time. I'm busy as all hell today

p3t3rc · 03-11-2016, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk

I'll add input when I have some time. I'm busy as all hell today

Much appreciated!

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p3t3rc · 03-15-2016, 04:31 PM

So I've been doing a little looking around and stumbled on the ARK RSpec Res TP.. does the Helmholtz Chamber make a world of different in terms of back pressure? Or again is this is just negligible and left all to preference..

SS_Firehawk · 03-15-2016, 06:34 PM

I finally have some time for a proper reply. So to give you a straight answer; for $15,000, it is not worth getting the twin supercharged system. I got it for $10k installed. For that price, it was worth trying. When I first drove it, the thing was an animal. After a month of having it home, it just never made that kind of power anymore. Two tensioner pulleys broke, the stock tensioner pulley broke, belts shredded, and it squealed. I do believe those issues could be fixed, but I was tired of dragging it from place to place trying to get it to run right. I plugged in a basic boost gauge under the hood to see what it was making, somehow it went from 12lbs to only 4. I took it to a shop and asked them to check the BPV's, and they had found they were completely loose, essentially bleeding boost out. After tightening them, it did gain a lot back, but it was in desperate need of a retune. I started getting nervous with all the small issues cropping up, so I cashed her in for $33,000 and started fresh.

So the pros with the kit...
I do believe this kit can easily make 650+whp with 84mm pulleys and a built motor.
It looks seriously awesome under the hood.
The power was very linear and got faster the higher you revved the thing.
It sounded wicked and long tubes fit with the kit.

The bad...
The pulley issue
The squealing
Can still make more power with a turbo
A lot of moving parts
The 3" intakes neck down going through the core support
It was made by GTM and their support was not the best.

03-11-2016, 03:35 PM	#11 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	There's a LOT of threads on the stillen kit, as well as your available turbo options. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

03-11-2016, 05:15 PM	#12 (permalink)
SS_Firehawk Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,142 Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 7335	I'll add input when I have some time. I'm busy as all hell today __________________ Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI New Car: Under Construction

03-15-2016, 06:34 PM	#15 (permalink)
SS_Firehawk Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,142 Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 7335	I finally have some time for a proper reply. So to give you a straight answer; for $15,000, it is not worth getting the twin supercharged system. I got it for $10k installed. For that price, it was worth trying. When I first drove it, the thing was an animal. After a month of having it home, it just never made that kind of power anymore. Two tensioner pulleys broke, the stock tensioner pulley broke, belts shredded, and it squealed. I do believe those issues could be fixed, but I was tired of dragging it from place to place trying to get it to run right. I plugged in a basic boost gauge under the hood to see what it was making, somehow it went from 12lbs to only 4. I took it to a shop and asked them to check the BPV's, and they had found they were completely loose, essentially bleeding boost out. After tightening them, it did gain a lot back, but it was in desperate need of a retune. I started getting nervous with all the small issues cropping up, so I cashed her in for $33,000 and started fresh. So the pros with the kit... I do believe this kit can easily make 650+whp with 84mm pulleys and a built motor. It looks seriously awesome under the hood. The power was very linear and got faster the higher you revved the thing. It sounded wicked and long tubes fit with the kit. The bad... The pulley issue The squealing Can still make more power with a turbo A lot of moving parts The 3" intakes neck down going through the core support It was made by GTM and their support was not the best. __________________ Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI New Car: Under Construction

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