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Originally Posted by Matt Some states, such as Georgia (where I live), have zero emissions tests or inspections. So for less money, you can achieve better flow, gains, and sound,

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Old 11-13-2009, 08:33 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Some states, such as Georgia (where I live), have zero emissions tests or inspections.

So for less money, you can achieve better flow, gains, and sound, albeit too loud or "raspy" for some.
What???? Zero emissions tests???? LOL, not in the area of GA I live in! Not sure about Augusta though. A new car doesn't have to be tested for emissions for the first 2 years, but after that it has to pass emissions every other year in order to renew your tag. Having said that, in GA it's just an OBD test. They hook up a cable to your ECU and check for CELs. No CELs, you pass. Pretty simple (and test pipe friendly!).

Edit: Looks like in GA, whether or not you need emissions testing depends on your county of residence. Per Georgia Smog Checks - Emissions Regulations, GA Smog Testing Stations - DMV Guide :

All gasoline-powered passenger cars and light trucks 1982 and newer in the following Georgia counties must pass an emission inspection before being issued license plates:

* Cherokee

* Clayton

* Cobb

* Coweta

* DeKalb

* Douglas

* Fayette

* Forsyth

* Fulton

* Gwinnett

* Henry

* Paulding

* Rockdale

Motorcycles, RVs, and motor homes do not require emissions testing.

So I guess it's just us Atlanta-area folks who have to do this.
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Just hit &,00 w/ the berk cb's--no lights. (knocking on wood.)
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Some states, such as Georgia (where I live), have zero emissions tests or inspections.

So for less money, you can achieve better flow, gains, and sound, albeit too loud or "raspy" for some.
actually, here in Atlanta we do have emissions testing. Fortunately all the look for is a CEL now, as opposed to before when they put it on the emissions dyno.
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6k on Berk HFC, Stillen GEN III Intakes, and FI Exhaust. No CEL
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actually, here in Atlanta we do have emissions testing. Fortunately all the look for is a CEL now, as opposed to before when they put it on the emissions dyno.
Mike and Semtex....ouch! That really sucks, although you're right...it's nothing compared to areas like California!

Here in Columbia/Richmond county, they don't even care if your car has wheels, just as long as it's insured!
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I've got a bit over 1K on the Berk HFC's now, so far no CEL
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me too, 1k miles, no CEL.
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I'm not surprised that the Berk HFCs are so CEL-resistant, considering how well protected the O2 sensors are from the direct path of the exhaust gases.

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I'm not surprised that the Berk HFCs are so CEL-resistant, considering how well protected the O2 sensors are from the direct path of the exhaust gases.

Yeah thats what I thought too thats why I bought them.... not looking good for me then well my reader should arrive in a few days... i'll know for sure then... I really cbf taking the exhaust off etc to go back to nissan for warranty work lol
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Does anyone that has the Berk Test pipes have the same set up on the extended port as in the picture above?
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The O2 ports on their test pipes look identical to those on their HFCs. Just go to their website and look at them.
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Thanks semtex, got a set that should be here tomorrow and I'm still on the fence about installing...

I guess I can try the steel wool fix and see what happens...
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has anyone tried a defouler?

this worked on my RSX with longtubes (before Hondata )

Theres basically a tiny hole in one so that it reduces the exhaust it receives drastically. I'd imagine this plus the O2 design on the HFC/Testpipes would do the trick just fine.

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I guess I can try the steel wool fix and see what happens...
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has anyone tried a defouler?

this worked on my RSX with longtubes (before Hondata )

Theres basically a tiny hole in one so that it reduces the exhaust it receives drastically. I'd imagine this plus the O2 design on the HFC/Testpipes would do the trick just fine.

Defouler o2 trick image by driftman240sx on Photobucket
I'm not really following either one of you. Why would you bother with steel wool or a defouler when there is no evidence that the Berk HFCs or test pipes throws CELs? (Unless I missed something?) I've used the defouler method before, when I ran Kinetix test pipes on my 350Z. But those things didn't have the extended O2 ports, and I regularly got CELs until I installed the defoulers. As far as I can remember, nobody has had an issue with CELs with the extended O2 ports, so it seems to me that you guys are trying to fix something that isn't broken. Again -- unless I'm missing something(?).
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I'm not really following either one of you. Why would you bother with steel wool or a defouler when there is no evidence that the Berk HFCs or test pipes throws CELs? (Unless I missed something?) I've used the defouler method before, when I ran Kinetix test pipes on my 350Z. But those things didn't have the extended O2 ports, and I regularly got CELs until I installed the defoulers. As far as I can remember, nobody has had an issue with CELs with the extended O2 ports, so it seems to me that you guys are trying to fix something that isn't broken. Again -- unless I'm missing something(?).
Just trying to prevent the CEL. A few people have said they got a CEL after several thousand miles.
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