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Zero dark 04-22-2015 10:19 PM

Custom muffler deletes?
 
Cant exhaust shops create a similiar product to aam short tails? Any idea what it would run? I try to call around and they always say bring the car in and good spots are always 30 mins away and im in the prime of my work week.

I want a 5 inch opening or close to that for the nismo bumper. Aam run about 450-500. I feel like a shop can make one half that price. Any experiences?

MR.nismo 04-23-2015 01:07 AM

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cheap...drives a 40K plus vehicle and don't want to spend 500 bucks.
Now in a serious note...
I don't think they (most muffler shops) have the quality materials, quality welders and the skills to make something nice, clean and neat. Now if you want something far from neat, clean, symmetrical and so on then any "butcher shop" will gladly make one for you.
From previous experiences, any muffler shop in town is not capable of doing it at least with the amount of care and detail that our vehicles deserve.
Unless you want something like this:
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POS VETT 04-23-2015 06:05 AM

That's an ignorant statement. Not all exhaust shops provide hack jobs.

The best bet is to find local auto enthusiasts and ask for their opinions which shop does the best work. Usually a hot rod-type shop is the best, but their work, while exemplary, usually is not cheap. You may find that the AAM short tails are a cheaper alternative since the price for a pair of good exhaust tips are ridiculous nowadays. I've been entertaining the idea of using a pair of short straight-through stainless steel mufflers to tone down the noises. Unfortunately, by the time the total price of two mufflers and two tips is considered, I might as well buy a pre-made axle-back for only a little more.

Zero dark 04-23-2015 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by POS VETT (Post 3176736)
That's an ignorant statement. Not all exhaust shops provide hack jobs.

The best bet is to find local auto enthusiasts and ask for their opinions which shop does the best work. Usually a hot rod-type shop is the best, but their work, while exemplary, usually is not cheap. You may find that the AAM short tails are a cheaper alternative since the price for a pair of good exhaust tips are ridiculous nowadays. I've been entertaining the idea of using a pair of short straight-through stainless steel mufflers to tone down the noises. Unfortunately, by the time the total price of two mufflers and two tips is considered, I might as well buy a pre-made axle-back for only a little more.

I get it. I just had no idea what it even starts at. If its close i might as well run with aam.

Zero dark 04-23-2015 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MR.nismo (Post 3176653)
cheap...drives a 40K plus vehicle and don't want to spend 500 bucks.
Now in a serious note...
I don't think they (most muffler shops) have the quality materials, quality welders and the skills to make something nice, clean and neat. Now if you want something far from neat, clean, symmetrical and so on then any "butcher shop" will gladly make one for you.
From previous experiences, any muffler shop in town is not capable of doing it at least with the amount of care and detail that our vehicles deserve.
Unless you want something like this:
Attachment 102689

Attachment 102690

There are plenty of high quality exhaust shops in my region. Its not like im asking if i should go to jiffy lube or not. Just because its a 40k+ car doesnt mean i cant explore other options. Its $500 not $50. If you got $500 to randomly put away please send me a money order or something.

BC416 04-23-2015 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by MR.nismo (Post 3176653)
cheap...drives a 40K plus vehicle and don't want to spend 500 bucks.
Now in a serious note...
I don't think they (most muffler shops) have the quality materials, quality welders and the skills to make something nice, clean and neat. Now if you want something far from neat, clean, symmetrical and so on then any "butcher shop" will gladly make one for you.
From previous experiences, any muffler shop in town is not capable of doing it at least with the amount of care and detail that our vehicles deserve.
Unless you want something like this:
Attachment 102689

Attachment 102690

I don't think this is the normal experience. I've had a local muffler shop work on previous cars and they have all the necessary tools and experience to handle pretty much anything I threw at them.

OP, they probably need to get a good look underneath the car to see what would need to be done. Make some time to take it there and get a quote. You can also get a feel for how the shop operates and if it's somewhere you'd want your car being worked on. Like POS VETT said though, it might just be better to get the pre-made axle back in the end as the price difference might be negligible.

FPenvy 04-23-2015 07:41 AM

I have the only set of custom short tails made to fit the fast intentions exhaust :tiphat: all matching material and made to match the bends of the FI system....just minus the mufflers. also actual FI tips (and no not hacked off my old set up. all new) ;)

straight pipes :yum:

http://www.the370z.com/intake-exhaus...s-exhaust.html

MR.nismo 04-23-2015 05:19 PM

I get it. I guess there are a few places that can do a decent job. I was referring based on previous experiences and the countless hack jobs I have seen.
So I stand incorrect to assume that any muffler shop is not capable of producing something acceptable to most enthusiast's standards.

lj909 04-23-2015 07:27 PM

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I think the AAM are way over priced. I got a nice job done at a reputable local shop. $230 total. Two guys worked on it to get the symmetry right. double walled tips. I'm very happy.

POS VETT 04-23-2015 08:31 PM

I see reduced pipe diameter at the crush bends. Pipe material doesn't seem like stainless steel. I'll pay the minimal extra for the mandrel bends and the stainless steel used in AAM short tail.

FPenvy 04-23-2015 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by POS VETT (Post 3177530)
I see reduced pipe diameter at the crush bends. Pipe material doesn't seem like stainless steel. I'll pay the minimal extra for the mandrel bends and the stainless steel used in AAM short tail.


That's why I purchased the materials for mine myself and had a friend do my welds since that isn't a skill or tool I possess. Plus he makes custom drag racing exhausts so I trust him. Lol

I would have went AAM but with my FI exhaust there's no system that mates with it so I made my own.

lj909 04-23-2015 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by POS VETT (Post 3177530)
I see reduced pipe diameter at the crush bends. Pipe material doesn't seem like stainless steel. I'll pay the minimal (DOUBLE) extra for the mandrel bends and the stainless steel used in AAM short tail.

I think you guys are over looking a key point. Short tails are for sound only. No real performance gains. If you want short tails, your mainly looking for a little sound over the stock hush. If your looking for real gains, then you put your money into a real exhaust system.


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