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njobe89 · 02-24-2015, 01:48 PM

ok, so i'm trying to understand the difference in the amount difference between test pipes, but i just can't seem to justify it. i understand resonated will be more then the non res ones. what i can't understand why is top speed $150 brand new, invidia $200 brand new, z1 $270 brand new, and so on.

if they all do the same thing, why such a difference in price? i'd understand if it was a few dollars difference.

can anyone shed any bit of light on this???? it's driving me crazy

mag_black · 02-24-2015, 01:59 PM

Quality and R&D is probably the number 1 factor/s. Look at Motordyne, it's $500+ for test pipes. I achieved 6-7HP and 5-8TQ just adding them -- the rasp is minimal -- product is a thing of beauty from welds to design.

6MT-Z34 · 02-24-2015, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mag_black

Quality and R&D is probably the number 1 factor/s. Look at Motordyne, it's $500+ for test pipes. I achieved 6-7HP and 5-8TQ just adding them -- the rasp is minimal -- product is a thing of beauty from welds to design.

I have motordyne ART pipes and are the best IMO....great gains, not annoying loud but a great sounding and good for dd

njobe89 · 02-24-2015, 02:05 PM

i can understand the res ones being a little more expensive, but it seems all test pipes will give you 7-10hp and some tq. i just can't see the reason to pay $500 instead of $200 if i will get the same product. or maybe i'm just crazy, idk lol

JC-Nismo · 02-24-2015, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by njobe89

i can understand the res ones being a little more expensive, but it seems all test pipes will give you 7-10hp and some tq. i just can't see the reason to pay $500 instead of $200 if i will get the same product. or maybe i'm just crazy, idk lol

Some people swear by, "you get what you pay for" and seem to think paying more will produce a better product I guess. Z1 is on back order with there test pipes, but I'm going with them because there the go to guys here and I live local and just a few clicks away from there shop.

njobe89 · 02-25-2015, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by JC-Nismo

Some people swear by, "you get what you pay for" and seem to think paying more will produce a better product I guess. Z1 is on back order with there test pipes, but I'm going with them because there the go to guys here and I live local and just a few clicks away from there shop.

they seem to be, but about a week or two ago, can't remember who posted on zatlanta page that the test pipes they had from z1 one broke at the welding point.

Zbrah · 02-24-2015, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by njobe89

i can understand the res ones being a little more expensive, but it seems all test pipes will give you 7-10hp and some tq. i just can't see the reason to pay $500 instead of $200 if i will get the same product. or maybe i'm just crazy, idk lol

Resonated test pipes reduces the rasp & hiss that are inherent with regular test pipes. I paid more for the extra ding dongs so I don't have to deal with any unwanted noises. And I didn't pay $500, got it second hand with less than a thousand miles on them courtesy of the classified section

njobe89 · 02-25-2015, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

could always pay $275 and get Fast Intentions TPs.

amazing sound, amazing quality, and the best customer service all for a nice price.

you do swear by their product all the time lol

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Originally Posted by Zbrah

Resonated test pipes reduces the rasp & hiss that are inherent with regular test pipes. I paid more for the extra ding dongs so I don't have to deal with any unwanted noises. And I didn't pay $500, got it second hand with less than a thousand miles on them courtesy of the classified section

yea i know resonated ones will reduce the rasp/hiss. glad you got a good deal lol.

FPenvy · 02-25-2015, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by njobe89

you do swear by their product all the time lol

there's plenty on here who do the same as well. it is a great product.

their products sold me on the sound and quality of their work. the bonus was when the car was strapped to the dyno lol

not sure if there would be the 10-12 week wait if just ordering test pipes from them. CBE is 10-12 week wait based on the demand and everything being hand built.

njobe89 · 02-25-2015, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

there's plenty on here who do the same as well. it is a great product.

their products sold me on the sound and quality of their work. the bonus was when the car was strapped to the dyno lol

not sure if there would be the 10-12 week wait if just ordering test pipes from them. CBE is 10-12 week wait based on the demand and everything being hand built.

yea i got to be honest, they're starting to grow on me as well. i may go with their res tp's

FPenvy · 02-24-2015, 02:40 PM

could always pay $275 and get Fast Intentions TPs.

amazing sound, amazing quality, and the best customer service all for a nice price.

brancky3 · 02-25-2015, 08:22 AM

I have non res and a Nismo catback, the hiss is pretty apparent at full throttle under 4-5k RPM, but you won't hear it up top. I don't really get any rasp or drone.

Edit: How much louder is the Stillen CBE compared to Nismo? I'd be happy to make a video of my car, just tell me what you want to hear

FPenvy · 02-25-2015, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by brancky3

I have non res and a Nismo catback, the hiss is pretty apparent at full throttle under 4-5k RPM, but you won't hear it up top. I don't really get any rasp or drone.

Edit: How much louder is the Stillen CBE compared to Nismo? I'd be happy to make a video of my car, just tell me what you want to hear

the hiss should only be happening on decel.

if you hear a hiss during accel you may have a leak. check your gaskets, connections, and tighten all bolts.

brancky3 · 02-25-2015, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

the hiss should only be happening on decel.

if you hear a hiss during accel you may have a leak. check your gaskets, connections, and tighten all bolts.

Will do. I haven't heard any hiss on decel, so that's a good thing I guess

njobe89 · 02-25-2015, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by brancky3

I have non res and a Nismo catback, the hiss is pretty apparent at full throttle under 4-5k RPM, but you won't hear it up top. I don't really get any rasp or drone.

Edit: How much louder is the Stillen CBE compared to Nismo? I'd be happy to make a video of my car, just tell me what you want to hear

it's louder and deeper then the nismo one, not by a whole lot... make a video if you don't mind.

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A lot of it just has to do with economies of scale.

If a co partners with a mass distributor or overseas manufacturer, they can afford to mass produce exhaust parts on the cheap, buying bulk materials, and using different automated manufacturing processes. They will tend to be on the lesser end of quality - maybe the welds don't last, maybe they do, maybe its a lower quality steel.

Someone like the guys at Fast Intentions do low volume, handmade stuff. They can't afford to sell stuff for nothing, they wouldn't be able to stay in business. But you have a co and people to turn to if you have any problems and you're supporting a US business that supports our hobby and industry. If you have problems with ebay test pipes, you're probably out of luck.

I ordered FI test pipes, expecting in early April.

is the back order the tp's like it is on the exhaust 10-12 weeks?

02-24-2015, 01:48 PM	#1 (permalink)
njobe89 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2014 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 5,227 Drives: 2013 370z BS 6MT Rep Power: 174284	test pipes test pipes test pipes ok, so i'm trying to understand the difference in the amount difference between test pipes, but i just can't seem to justify it. i understand resonated will be more then the non res ones. what i can't understand why is top speed $150 brand new, invidia $200 brand new, z1 $270 brand new, and so on. if they all do the same thing, why such a difference in price? i'd understand if it was a few dollars difference. can anyone shed any bit of light on this???? it's driving me crazy carlitos_370z likes this. __________________ 2 plus 2 times 2 = ? ... hint, it's not 8 Stillen CBE, Stillen Gen 3, TP's, Uprev tuned - 324whp/264tq

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mag_black A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,400 Drives: 09 370Z MT6 Rep Power: 667	Quality and R&D is probably the number 1 factor/s. Look at Motordyne, it's $500+ for test pipes. I achieved 6-7HP and 5-8TQ just adding them -- the rasp is minimal -- product is a thing of beauty from welds to design. 6MT-Z34, Zbrah and carlitos_370z like this. __________________ fujimura ≠ abbeyRoadCompany ≠ fastIntentions ≠ motordyne ≠ avantGarde ≠ ecutek ≠ nismo ≠ stillen ≠ stoptech ≠ gtm ≠ spl ≠ carbonfiberelement ≠ stance™ Last edited by mag_black; 02-24-2015 at 02:00 PM. Reason: added more points

02-24-2015, 02:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
njobe89 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2014 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 5,227 Drives: 2013 370z BS 6MT Rep Power: 174284	i can understand the res ones being a little more expensive, but it seems all test pipes will give you 7-10hp and some tq. i just can't see the reason to pay $500 instead of $200 if i will get the same product. or maybe i'm just crazy, idk lol __________________ 2 plus 2 times 2 = ? ... hint, it's not 8 Stillen CBE, Stillen Gen 3, TP's, Uprev tuned - 324whp/264tq

02-25-2015, 08:22 AM	#12 (permalink)
brancky3 Track Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Greer, SC Age: 37 Posts: 754 Drives: 14 370Z Gun Metallic Rep Power: 16	I have non res and a Nismo catback, the hiss is pretty apparent at full throttle under 4-5k RPM, but you won't hear it up top. I don't really get any rasp or drone. Edit: How much louder is the Stillen CBE compared to Nismo? I'd be happy to make a video of my car, just tell me what you want to hear __________________ 2014 Nissan 370z Gun Metallic 6-spd Test Pipes \| Nismo CBE \| Stillen Gen3 \| Swift springs \| Advanation Sway Bars \| RJM Clutch \| GTR DBA Premium Wheels

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