ARK DTS or GRIP ?
 

Ok as the title suggests, I am settling with ARK but not sure whats the difference

I really wanted Fast Intentions but firstly i am not a patient person, Secondly i hear its too loud and i dont want that kind of attention in dubai because po-po's are mean.

Anyway, DTS or GRIP ? differences and opinion. I would be placing the order ASAP because this stock exhaust makes me cry

As far as I know the ARK is a little bit louder than the FI. Go for the Ark grip with burnt tips.
Looks better to me than DTS.

Grip has 2.5" piping and DTS has 3". Some reviews claim the grip is louder and DtS provide more hp by 1 than the grip 12 vs 13hp.

Really? Everyone says ark is a more silent exhaust .. the grip definitely looks better than the dts..but is there any difference among them ? I cant seem to find differences in them at all..
Are they turbo compatible. Forgive my illiteracy i am only slowly learning everything

I understand the difference now

So its safe to assume dts is better for turbo application ?
But i have read that 3" affects N/A vehicles..would it apply here ?

Not sure how the 3" affects a N/A maybe back pressure? But yes DTS is good for FI aplications.
The Ark is quiet at idle but loud at woot but its deep solid sound.
Best paired with a HFC. But that would make it louder.

I have the motordyne art..which did not really pair well with my akrapovic. So i am going to try the ark. Ill try how the dts pairs with art ..lets see..thanks for ur help on the differences..for some reason i could not find the differences or i did not look hard enough

My ARK Grip is about the same volume as the FI non-resonated exhaust, but has a slightly deeper sound. The DTS is slightly quieter, the FI with resonators is quiet until you really get on it then it comes alive, but without test pipes it never becomes loud.

I have the Ark GRIP and hae installed many different exhausts for local Z club members. Nothing holds a candle to the fit and quality of Fast Intentions, FWIW

How bad is the drone on the GRIP? I drive 65mi a day (15mi highway 15mi back roads (one way))

Recently installed a DT-S on my ride and love it. I wanted teh FI but did not want to wait. I purchased myself very recently....I had intially wanted the Grip since I really like how that style/design looks but they were out of that.

So I decided on the DT-S but they were out of that to. The DT-S I got was the only one as of 2 weeks ago they had in stock..1st Z owner to install the Matte finish.

^ pictures please would like to see in matte finish.

^:tup::tup:

Thanks. I like it so far. Ark says its slightly louder then a Grip...I can not attest to that as I never have had a Grip model.

I also think that after you get it we all tend to be baised..most of us do not go and buy multiple exhausts so after shelling out over a grand for one we tend to like it no matter what.

Love that matte finish,
Talking to ARK currently, Will want to grab the DTS myself because the GRIP will well "GRIP" all the cops attention to my car even if its parked.

Thanks!

A Grip or a DT-S you will like either. Ark is not known for crappy stuff. As for sound...well the OEM 370z exhaust note sucks..horribly. You will notice the DT-S when you fire her up, when your pushing off. Then when your ride gets to cruising speed its more of a louder OEM sound..sounds good. When you punch it though depending what gear I am pretty sure everyone around you will notice it. It gets loud...but that is the intention.

Be it a FI, Ark, Stillen whatever...its how the 370z considering what people want to compare it to should sound. Changed the dynamic feel of my ride..it feels authoritative now.

I like how you personify your car. I do that too :D
I am sold haha, Just hoping they reply fast and i want to push this through ASAP since i cannot buy it directly through their site because they dont have a NON-US/CANADA shipping option.

As someone who's owned both, here are my opinions and maybe some facts.

1. I don't think the ark DT-S has 3" piping. Last I measured, they both have the same piping diameter, so I don't know what Zoren is talking about.

2. Ark grip is louder than DT-S

3. Ark grip hang's lower than DT-S. If you want to lower your car, get the DT-S. This is the reason I switched. Once I got coils, I was scraping too often. It wasn't so bad without a bunch of weight in the car. But once I loaded it up for track days it was nearly un-drivable (i stuff two full sized rims/tires in the boot, though.)

4. DT-S adjustable tips. I'm not a huge fan because they have bolts coming out of them for the adjustment but that's a subjective thing. Grip is nice and clean.

I think the quality was fine on both. I enjoyed the grip when I had it and was a little disappointed that the DT-S was a little quieter but it fit and worked well on the track so I'm happy. I had them both paired to FI HFCs so they were a little louder than they would be if I had them hooked onto the stock cats. No drone on EITHER exhaust, however, there is a "hiss" on decel, which I don't mind. In fact I kind of like it. This is due to HFCs, but something to consider if you have HFCs is that these exhausts do nothing to prevent a hiss.

I'll try to answer any other questions as they come up.

I absolutely love the hiss. I do not even know why people do not like the hiss. However the ART's are causing annoying rasp/rattle. I would like to see if my ART's will cause the same on the ARK.
If the DTS is too silent, Ill go the HFC route anyway (FI :D)

Some questions for you though.

When the car is idle, Does it have a (best description) rumble ?
Butt dyno any different ?
Turbo Compatible ? ( Some exhausts are too restrictive for turbo or so i understand)

No Test pipes? no drone.

:iagree: with every points Dpenguin made here. The pipings on both Grip and DT-s are 2.5"OD not sure where the 3" comes from.

Thanks for that post! I did not realize stupidly that those bolts were there for adjustment. I messed with the fitting for a while and got it 90% where I wanted but could not get it exact. I shall be doing that today!!! Thanks.

Once the car is warmed up, the idle is incredibly silent. Which is fine by me. I don't want it making a lot of noise unless I'm flooring it anyway. In fact, it's down right civil until about 4000 rpm. There is some rumble if you're standing behind it, you can really hear the cylinders firing. However, it's pretty quiet in the cabin. This is coming from someone who has his entire interior stripped out in the hatch area.

With some effort, I can hold a mobile conversation at highway speeds. Actually, most of the noise in the cabin is still coming from the tires rather than the exhaust.

I think the gains come mostly from the less restrictive cats. Honestly with the same diameter headers, you're not looking at much. The principle is to create less restriction in air flow and I'm not certain that an exhaust adds as much to that equation as HFCs or test pipes. The key is that exhausts are basically trumpets for your engine, and these sound great, IMO. In short, butt dyno is mostly the same if you swap exhaust only. But you certainly sound like you're going faster.

You're going to want 3" piping with a turbo. HKS is the answer for that. Or custom exhaust.

Glad I could help! Cheers. :tup:

The rumble at idle is a slight gurgling sound...sounds good to me.

Butt Dyno..seems faster but that is due to me driving it harder being it sounds beastly compared to OEM.

Careful with those bolts, they strip easily. You can get better ones at home depot that won't strip for a few cents.

Is 3 inch piping required for a Stillen Supercharger? After I get back from overseas when I go again was planning on installing one.

You should get in contact with Stillen regarding that. See what they recommend. I'm pretty sure they'll recommend a 3" exhaust. It's a bit outside my wheel house, I'm afraid. I defer to the experts when it comes to force induction.

I also forgot to mention that FI also offers 3" exhausts by request.

Eh will take some time to go TT anyway, I am set on ARK DTS for now.
But damn its 12 am here and i want ARK to reply so i can place the order before i sleep
BUT THEY ARE NOTTTTTTTTTT

How I was when I called FI that 10 week wait...could not do it lol. Amazon.com has ruined me.

I sent them a email. They recommend a 2.5 inch exhaust for a Stillen Supercharge set up..score. I can keep my exhaust. Cheers

Grip, I think its on the quite side also. I have Z1 HFC's also. ! But I wanted to more on the quite side.

How do you like the Z1 HFC's? I was planning on them or Arks. Do you get a CEL?

I currently have the Z1 HFCs with my ARK Grip, they rasp until they get hot, then they sound good.

The Arks are overpriced

Want test pipes? FI or Motordyne ART
Want HFC? FI

Definetely .. i have the arts and in my expetience ..they rasp so bad...that i am embarassed driving around

You get rasp from the ART pipes? youd be the first person ive heard with that experience. Which exhaust are you currently running?

I had Akrapovic.
Worst Rasp EVER.
Sold it. gonna try on my next exhaust
I want to believe in motordyne, So benefit of the doubt..will try on my 2nd exhaust

I really like them, Been on them for a few months now NO CEL , Great product for sure :happydance:

I'm not looking for rasp or any of that hiss so I'm sticking with stock cats and will be picking up an ARK Grip within the next month or so. Looking forward to it.

Theres your problem. The ART pipes are the least raspy and hissy test pipes made, but that is one raspy *** exhaust.

Not at all..the akrapovic is one of the most beautiful notes i have ever heard..i recommend it to everyone..howevr its nt loud which is why i mainly wanted a reason to change it

The combination of them might be the reason for the rasp,
Idk where you got the info that akrapovic is a raspy exhaust..that is not at all the case