Hi, anyone running these tires? My dad has them on his '06 TL... but I don't "drive" his TL. I was thinking of getting a set of Michelin Pilot Sport
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12-21-2012, 09:22 PM | #1 (permalink) |
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Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus?
Hi, anyone running these tires? My dad has them on his '06 TL... but I don't "drive" his TL.
I was thinking of getting a set of Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus; Costco is going to have that $70 off Michelin coupon thing starting Jan 2. I had Potenza SO-3's on my Prelude before... good God those were excellent tires for Hawaii! Anyone know if the Michelin's are just as good or better? I figured I'd ask the Hawaii guys for advice because most of you understand my spirited driving spots best (Pali, 13turns).
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I put the A/S+'s on my ISF, and it was better than the potenzas it came with stock But Chris knows his shít, good guy My money is still on the A/S+'s because I like that warranty, you beat on them, they (somehow) prematurely wear, and yay, your new set of tires is a lot cheaper! Lol |
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I do like the sound of that warranty...but what constitutes as super agressive driving? I'm wondering if it's enough tire for me; I don't think I drive too aggressive.... like.. the "fastest" I go, is prob around 35-40'ish(max)mph around a corner at 13turns (empty side)...in the dry. Quote:
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So 22.5k miles, (for the rear ONLY, the front carries the same warranty, THANK CHRIS for my knowledge on that). Now abnormal camber wear... AKA, ANY camber wear will void the warranty for the most part. Also, the thing to do (for the most part) when your tires wear is to make sure they use your mileage in the warranty or pro rating for the next set of tires. Usually they try to go by tread depth (Sorry for the long anecdote) Last car: Bought tires rated at 60k, drove like a maniac, did tire rotations every 2-3k miles (because I knew I was beating the tires) Came back 6 months after original install at 14,500 miles, every tire was at 2/32nds (legally bald) Original tire job was $400, if they went by tread depth they would pay 20% of what I paid towards new tires (tires start with 10/32nds, I left 2, meaning 20% left), so $80 off a new set I told them to go by mileage which I had only achieved 25% of the stated "lifetime" of the tires... Meaning I'd get 75% off a new set When they put it through the system it came up as free and all I had to do was pay $60 for all 4 wheels to be mounted and balanced. So I paid $60 paid to drive 15k miles... With their new system, I believe they'd pay for the install but I'd actually have to pay for the tires, so even then the tires were $340, so I'd pay 25% of that for my usage $85. All told, the real advantage is that I get to drive as hard as I want Just upgraded the tires on that car to Michelins for like $100-150 as well Oh, and NO WHERE (besides Costco and Sam's Club) does their tire warranties the same, the big tire chains use that ONLY in the evenent you get a nail or the tire has its own failure As for grip, since the only car I know that had potenzas was my ISF, I personally think the Pilot A/S+'s were more quiet, offered a better ride (Marginally on both because the ISF is noisy and back breaking ride for my year), and the grip was MUCCCCHHHHH better than with the Potenzas Side note, until I came to this car forum I didn't know people cared, but the tread on the A/S+'s is so deep, or aggressive or whatever that it wraps a decent amount onto the sidewall. It even took me a bit of getting used to, but a lot of people think it looks aggressive |
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So. I just mounted a pair of PSS a/s plus today and drove through a lot of crappy weather and snow around my 9000 foot elevation home in Colorado.
The tires grip well enough to limp around in the white stuff, (but the car is still a REAL handful in the snow covered ice). On the dry, the car is way quieter than stock (09 potenzas) and grips well, but there IS some sidewall roll. All in all, I think if I were to do it all again I'd mount true snow tires (Blizzaks??) for limping around in the snow and mount some PSS or other summer tire in the spring. In short. pretty good tires for 1300 bucks but not superb snow or dry grip. Better to mount dedicated snow tires in winter and just suck up the crappy dry performance the give for the 3 months you cant use real street tires. (I have a FJ cruiser to drive around when it gets heavy which factored in to my a/s tire choice. IMHO, if you DD your Z in snowy climates you should DEFINATELY get some real snow tires!)
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