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DarkJak 07-27-2013 12:20 PM

For us auto guys, does getting launch control make any difference, since we don't have a clutch to drop?

JMac88 07-27-2013 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJak (Post 2421474)
For us auto guys, does getting launch control make any difference, since we don't have a clutch to drop?

No, not really. But I believe launch control comes standard with the digital adjuster though. If you wanted just the standard adjuster you could get it without launch control.

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GaleForce 07-27-2013 04:31 PM

I might be in. I would like more details on the actual installation (chip set business) and pricing.

JMac88 07-31-2013 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 2421696)
I might be in. I would like more details on the actual installation (chip set business) and pricing.

Sorry I was away for a few days. The installation of the chips is simple. You have to cut the signal wire of the abs sensor, splice in a single chip for each sensor. For the two fronts, you remove the splash shields and tap in right after the sensor. The rears are easy and are tapped in the trunk. Then a single wire is ran from the chips to another small board near the race logic. 4 inputs from the sensor, 4 outputs to the racelogic, and a ground.

The 4 small chips are around the size of a dime. The main chip is roughly the size of two quarters.

Let me know what else you would like to know. If this goes through, I will make it very hard to not install correctly. I have wire colors, pictures, ect... but I am not going to make a manual if there is no intrest.

Mitco39 07-31-2013 03:06 PM

This might help you guys figure out what you want to do. lol. Took the car down to Montana and it worked flawlessly and I tested it out quite a few times. Nothing like feeling it pull around turns while it does its thing. It just sticks and goes. For you FI guys notice how you can hear the turbo spool even before the car launches, two stage rev limiters are the best.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...pse07cdbe0.jpg

GaleForce 07-31-2013 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JMac88 (Post 2426521)
Sorry I was away for a few days. The installation of the chips is simple. You have to cut the signal wire of the abs sensor, splice in a single chip for each sensor. For the two fronts, you remove the splash shields and tap in right after the sensor. The rears are easy and are tapped in the trunk. Then a single wire is ran from the chips to another small board near the race logic. 4 inputs from the sensor, 4 outputs to the racelogic, and a ground.

The 4 small chips are around the size of a dime. The main chip is roughly the size of two quarters.

Let me know what else you would like to know. If this goes through, I will make it very hard to not install correctly. I have wire colors, pictures, ect... but I am not going to make a manual if there is no intrest.

Sounds easy enough. :tup:


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Originally Posted by Mitco39 (Post 2427153)
This might help you guys figure out what you want to do. lol. Took the car down to Montana and it worked flawlessly and I tested it out quite a few times. Nothing like feeling it pull around turns while it does its thing. It just sticks and goes. For you FI guys notice how you can hear the turbo spool even before the car launches, two stage rev limiters are the best.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...pse07cdbe0.jpg

Very sweet! :excited:

JMac88 07-31-2013 10:01 PM

So far we have one person in for sure. We are going to need more to get the chips mfg at a reasonable rate. Tell your fourm friends!

GaleForce 08-01-2013 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by JMac88 (Post 2427773)
So far we have one person in for sure. We are going to need more to get the chips mfg at a reasonable rate. Tell your fourm friends!

Can you PM me an all in price including the digital display.

JMac88 08-03-2013 12:52 PM

Bumping up, lets get some intrest

dimsler 08-08-2013 10:45 AM

I am very interested in this, can you be a bit more specific as to what "chips" are required for intercepting the abs output?

Mitco39 08-08-2013 11:05 AM

There is a chip that you put at each wheel speed sensor to take the signal and break it off to send to another chip that you can mount near the racelogic. It is required on all the newer vehicles running the new style of abs sensors.

Mitch

JMac88 08-08-2013 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dimsler (Post 2437582)
I am very interested in this, can you be a bit more specific as to what "chips" are required for intercepting the abs output?

The chips we had to have made to get the racelogic to communicate properly with the vehicles. They are custom made by a local shop and high quality. You will not be getting a hacked together breadboard.

dimsler 08-14-2013 10:59 PM

Alright guys, my tt kit is almost done, and I'm itching for one of these Racelogic kits, is there a time line?

JMac88 08-14-2013 11:25 PM

Well we have our minimum of two, and maybe 3 if gale decides to pull the trigger. My only worry with only two or three is we won't be able to get the chips into production. This means you'll have to pay a bit more as they will be done by hand. I'll call the shop tomorrow and see what they are going to charge and pm the 3 interested parties

GaleForce 08-15-2013 07:35 AM

Let me know when you're serious about ordering.

dimsler 09-06-2013 10:03 AM

bump, any updates? still very interested and serious. How is the system running? if the group buy falls through I'd love to buy just the sensors.

Mitco39 09-06-2013 10:07 AM

I got a bunch of usage out of mine and it works flawlessly. Ife done probably 100 or so launches with it and id say 2-300 no lift shifts all work awesome. The no lift shift is probably my favorite part about the whole system, the 1-2 shift can be a bit tricky and I usually still let off on that shift, but everything else shifts smooth as butter.

Im sure James will chime in here shortly. :)

djtodd 09-06-2013 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by dimsler (Post 2475508)
bump, any updates? still very interested and serious. How is the system running? if the group buy falls through I'd love to buy just the sensors.

Same here. I would love for the GB to work out, but if not, I still want to move forward if possible.

JMac88 09-06-2013 01:27 PM

PM's sent

JMac88 09-12-2013 10:39 AM

No one wants tc?

KaienZ34 09-12-2013 11:07 AM

No $ =me :crying:

elliotty 09-13-2013 08:53 AM

Any word on total all-in price for everything with the required sensors, etc.? Mind sending me a PM?

JMac88 09-17-2013 11:16 PM

Racelogic came back to me and told me I need to get 5 guys to order. I do not think there is enough interest on the forum for this, so I am officially ending this.

I will extend the same offer I gave to the interested parties. If you can source your own system, I can get you the sensors needed to make the system work.

dimsler 09-18-2013 01:25 AM

How on earth is nobody else ontop of this like white on rice? This system is bad ***, its so worth it.

TerribleONE 01-15-2014 12:17 AM

Bumping this.. Any chance we can get those deals again if we generate enough interest. I really don't want to deal with GTM

fireman3361 01-15-2014 12:22 AM

I am in....

I would want a plug and play harness though..... where is it you can find them?

JMac88 01-15-2014 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 2652122)
Bumping this.. Any chance we can get those deals again if we generate enough interest. I really don't want to deal with GTM

The magic number is 5. If we can get 5+ solid commitments I will talk to AK about doing this again.
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Originally Posted by fireman3361 (Post 2652127)
I am in....

I would want a plug and play harness though..... where is it you can find them?

The only chance you might have of getting a complete plug and play harness would be to talk to wiring specialties. I bet they would charge you a pretty penny over and above the patch harness though. Race logic includes the pins and the connectors for making a patch harness "plug and play". Get yourself a decent crimper and it will take you 30-40mins to make it. I chose to just hardwire my kit right to the harness though.

TerribleONE 01-15-2014 04:44 PM

Lets get this going! I would love to be able to actually use 1st gear lol

djtodd 01-15-2014 10:07 PM

I'm still in

fireman3361 01-16-2014 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JMac88 (Post 2653197)
The only chance you might have of getting a complete plug and play harness would be to talk to wiring specialties. I bet they would charge you a pretty penny over and above the patch harness though. Race logic includes the pins and the connectors for making a patch harness "plug and play". Get yourself a decent crimper and it will take you 30-40mins to make it. I chose to just hardwire my kit right to the harness though.

Ok I have a couple questions regarding this...
When I talked to GTM about buying this, it sounded like I literally just unplug and plug in the racelogic module, then wire the controller where ever I want it. They said I didn't need and sensors or anything for the wheels. I am driving a 2013 370Z Nismo. I would want the digital controller and launch control.
What do you think?

Mitco39 01-16-2014 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by fireman3361 (Post 2653919)
Ok I have a couple questions regarding this...
When I talked to GTM about buying this, it sounded like I literally just unplug and plug in the racelogic module, then wire the controller where ever I want it. They said I didn't need and sensors or anything for the wheels. I am driving a 2013 370Z Nismo. I would want the digital controller and launch control.
What do you think?

There are two different versions of the Racelogic kit. There is the OBD style kit where the wheel speed is pulled into the racelogic brain through the OBD bus. This works well but it does not allow for no lift shifts which is why I teamed up with James to try and get this analogue version of the system working. We spent months on this system before teaming up with a electronics design company that was able to make us the controllers needed to tap into the newer ABS system our cars have over the older cars that this system was initially designed for.

Hope this helps :tiphat:


Also for those on the fence, this system is awesome. The no lift shift (especially on boosted cars) is amazing, no need to blow off all that boost while making a shift anymore.

fireman3361 01-16-2014 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitco39 (Post 2654106)
There are two different versions of the Racelogic kit. There is the OBD style kit where the wheel speed is pulled into the racelogic brain through the OBD bus. This works well but it does not allow for no lift shifts which is why I teamed up with James to try and get this analogue version of the system working. We spent months on this system before teaming up with a electronics design company that was able to make us the controllers needed to tap into the newer ABS system our cars have over the older cars that this system was initially designed for.

Hope this helps :tiphat:


Also for those on the fence, this system is awesome. The no lift shift (especially on boosted cars) is amazing, no need to blow off all that boost while making a shift anymore.

Ok, how hard is this to put in on your own? Do you need to cut any wires? I am guessing I have to run a sensor to each wheel?

Do you know if there is a DIY for this?
Thanks for the help!

Mitco39 01-16-2014 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by fireman3361 (Post 2654564)
Ok, how hard is this to put in on your own? Do you need to cut any wires? I am guessing I have to run a sensor to each wheel?

Do you know if there is a DIY for this?
Thanks for the help!

Its not hard at all, the trickiest spot is getting to the abs wires on the front tires (and even then if you pull the wheel liners its a cakewalk).

You do need to cut the signal wire going to each abs sensor and put a "chip" in between it to send a signal wire back to the main processing chip. You can buy a main harness to go in between your ecu and body harness so that you do not need to cut any other wires on the car (which I strongly recommend).

There will be no install DIY since to the best of my knowledge James and myself are the only ones with this actual system on our cars.

fireman3361 01-16-2014 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitco39 (Post 2654609)
Its not hard at all, the trickiest spot is getting to the abs wires on the front tires (and even then if you pull the wheel liners its a cakewalk).

You do need to cut the signal wire going to each abs sensor and put a "chip" in between it to send a signal wire back to the main processing chip. You can buy a main harness to go in between your ecu and body harness so that you do not need to cut any other wires on the car (which I strongly recommend).

There will be no install DIY since to the best of my knowledge James and myself are the only ones with this actual system on our cars.

OK.
does it come with instructions? Where I can get this harness, as I do not want to cut any ECU wires at all!!!!

Do yall know what a total price of everything would be?
Sounds like the main difference in this one and the one from GTM is you can no lift shift with this one and not with that one. Hopefully this one will be ALOT cheaper as well.... lol

This one does come with the digital adjuster and launch control correct?

G37sHKS 01-16-2014 02:40 PM

What kind of deal we are talking about?

TerribleONE 01-16-2014 02:42 PM

Prices were posted on the first page. I think for 5-9 units we get a few hundred off and dont have to deal with GTM

Mitco39 01-16-2014 02:51 PM

Yeah James has all the info on this. I simply worked with him to get it working on our cars. To reiterate you will have to cut your abs lines unless you can somehow source a company to make a little harness to go between your abs sensor and your body harness. Both James and I could not find anyone to do this.

fireman3361 01-16-2014 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitco39 (Post 2654645)
Yeah James has all the info on this. I simply worked with him to get it working on our cars. To reiterate you will have to cut your abs lines unless you can somehow source a company to make a little harness to go between your abs sensor and your body harness. Both James and I could not find anyone to do this.

But there is a harness to go into the ecu so you don't have to cut wires there?

Mitco39 01-16-2014 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by fireman3361 (Post 2654680)
But there is a harness to go into the ecu so you don't have to cut wires there?

That is correct.

fireman3361 01-16-2014 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitco39 (Post 2654698)
That is correct.

Ok, does this harness come with it? Is this the harness I have to make?

Any chance either of you took pics when you installed this?


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