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ckim64 01-30-2015 12:16 PM

There are several companies.
First off is CSF
Second is DRL
Home
Third is HPI
http://hpi.co.jp/evolve_z/index.html

theDreamer 01-30-2015 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ckim64 (Post 3097086)
There are several companies.
First off is CSF
Second is DRL
Home
Third is HPI
http://hpi.co.jp/evolve_z/index.html

He already has an upgraded radiator.

JWillis72 01-30-2015 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 3097072)
Something I just thought of looking through your photos.
Heat wrapping your pipes & thermal coating for your intercooler & radiator, small change but can help keep heat out of the pipes and keep temps down.


We talked heat wrapping the pipes today when I picked it up. In not aware of the coating for the cooler and radiator, does it make them cool faster?


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theDreamer 01-30-2015 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3097127)
We talked heat wrapping the pipes today when I picked it up. In not aware of the coating for the cooler and radiator, does it make them cool faster?


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I used this company in Houston: Performance coatings by Polydyn
They did my intercooler & intake pipes, the coating is designed to keep heat out and reduce the transfer into the pipe. For the intercooler this means lower temps, same for the pipes in the engine bay.

JWillis72 01-30-2015 12:42 PM

Driving the car today it for sure running cooler. Oil never got over 145 around town and I never turned the fans on. I turned the fans on for about a mile or two and dropped the temp 4 degrees. The radiator never got to 2 light left of center so it looks like it is working but I will know for sure in 4 weeks.


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JWillis72 01-30-2015 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ckim64 (Post 3097086)
There are several companies.

First off is CSF

Second is DRL

Home

Third is HPI

http://hpi.co.jp/evolve_z/index.html


It has a CSF triple pass in it now.


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theDreamer 01-30-2015 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3097137)
Driving the car today it for sure running cooler. Oil never got over 145 around town and I never turned the fans on. I turned the fans on for about a mile or two and dropped the temp 4 degrees. The radiator never got to 2 light left of center so it looks like it is working but I will know for sure in 4 weeks.


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If you do not have a dedicated way to read the coolant temps, here is a nice guide I put together of what the dots mean.
http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...-readings.html

2011 Nismo#91 01-30-2015 01:05 PM

Some quick thoughts:
1. Keep the heat in the exhaust. Thermal wrap everything that adds unnecessary heat to the engine bay.
2. Throw out as much of the plastic junk they you possible can from the engine bay.
3. Use a lower thermostat temp, valve will open sooner and delay higher temps.
X. Thinking out of the box, is a hood mandatory? If your not getting up to high speeds, smaller courses, then the aero doesn't matter so much.

JWillis72 01-30-2015 01:13 PM

I run mostly Sebring and Homestead, they are far from slow or low speed. It's usually around 140 mph in the back straight of Sebring going into the U turn that is 17. I didn't do the hood for looks, it was the beginning of trying to keep a supercharger cool on the track and it made a huge improvement.


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JWillis72 01-30-2015 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 3097143)
If you do not have a dedicated way to read the coolant temps, here is a nice guide I put together of what the dots mean.
http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...-readings.html

Thanks Dreamer! So it staying in the 149-152 range today and it used to stay in the 152-158 range. We pulled most of the Aquamist system out of the car so I now have a spot for a real temp gauge for it.

bullitt5897 01-30-2015 04:08 PM

I am running the SPAL fans and controllers from GTM... I will say they are loud as hell! And pull a lot of air!

DR_ 01-30-2015 04:29 PM

Turn on your heater all the way up. It's like having a second radiator and helps a lot.

JWillis72 01-30-2015 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3097322)
I am running the SPAL fans and controllers from GTM... I will say they are loud as hell! And pull a lot of air!


That's what is on mine as well and they move some serious air.


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JWillis72 01-30-2015 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DR_ (Post 3097334)
Turn on your heater all the way up. It's like having a second radiator and helps a lot.

I did that last time and it helped a lot but in the Florida summers I might come out of the car well done.

DR_ 01-30-2015 10:18 PM

I don't track during the summer here in Texas. It is just too hard on the car.

Robert Yuras 01-30-2015 10:43 PM

Radiator Cooling suggestions
 
I think you've done everything right. The only suggestions I'd have:

1. Add a 2nd oil cooler
2. Remove that stupid crash bar and install a tubular piece
3. Shroud the radiator to the nose
4. Wrap your exhaust!!!!! No heat out, no heat in

JWillis72 01-31-2015 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DR_ (Post 3097560)
I don't track during the summer here in Texas. It is just too hard on the car.


It crazy but NASA doesn't do events in Florida from Nov-May, our best weather. They say not enough people show up plus in the cool weather is when all the big races/testing happen on our tracks so dates are hard to come by.


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JWillis72 01-31-2015 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert Yuras (Post 3097574)
I think you've done everything right. The only suggestions I'd have:

1. Add a 2nd oil cooler
2. Remove that stupid crash bar and install a tubular piece
3. Shroud the radiator to the nose
4. Wrap your exhaust!!!!! No heat out, no heat in


If it needs more all of those ideas will be in the next round of work.


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JWillis72 02-04-2015 12:08 PM

I think the changes are going to do the trick. Radiator temp doesn't seem to move at all. I haven't seen a oil temp over 145 and that was getting off the highway and getting stuck in traffic for 30 min without turning the fans on. http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15...0a35db492e.jpghttp://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15...d8566cd39b.jpghttp://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15...74dd3a0b0f.jpg


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CSF Inc. 02-04-2015 01:23 PM

Hey guys.. It's been a while since I last jumped on this forum, but I just caught up on this thread..

There has been a lot of good information shared, and I'm also looking forward to hearing how the set-up works on your next track day.. Good luck JWillis, and thank you for using our product in your beautiful track car! I'm going to be featuring it on some of our social media/website if you don't mind..

can you PM me or email me (info@csfrace.com) your spec sheet.

JWillis72 02-04-2015 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CSF Inc. (Post 3101742)
Hey guys.. It's been a while since I last jumped on this forum, but I just caught up on this thread..

There has been a lot of good information shared, and I'm also looking forward to hearing how the set-up works on your next track day.. Good luck JWillis, and thank you for using our product in your beautiful track car! I'm going to be featuring it on some of our social media/website if you don't mind..

can you PM me or email me (info@csfrace.com) your spec sheet.

Thank you, I will do that. Give me until after the 28th (I'm running Homestead) and I will send it with pictures on the track. I used your triple pass on a 7 AT but being in south Florida I wasn't worried about using the radiator to warm the trans fluid in the cold. It seem to be much happier getting the oil, supercharger and trans cooler out from right in front of it. Why the supercharger cooler is still there it's much further away and the radiator has a lot more fresh air getting to it.

DR_ 02-04-2015 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3097911)
It crazy but NASA doesn't do events in Florida from Nov-May, our best weather. They say not enough people show up plus in the cool weather is when all the big races/testing happen on our tracks so dates are hard to come by.


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NASA Texas does an event here every August. It is just brutal.

JWillis72 02-04-2015 03:56 PM

We are not as hot as you but that time of year we are high 90s and crazy humid so you are burning up and soaked the whole time. I don't get it,
the weather right now is lows in the upper 40s/ high in the lower 70s and they don't have an event until May 1st.

JWillis72 03-01-2015 09:05 AM

I was able to test the new set up at Homestead Miami Speedway yesterday and for the first time I have no cooling issues! Radiator never passed half on the stupid lights and oil never passed 220.


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Robert Yuras 03-01-2015 10:00 AM

Radiator Cooling suggestions
 
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Since I'm a road race guy, but prefer N/A cars, I've been doing some work too. Your thread (and a recent DE) inspired me to get going on my setup for the 2015 season. Here's my latest progress pic:
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Two Setrab 26 series coolers with thermostatically controlled SPAL fans and a Mishi radiator. Crash bar is getting Fabricated now along with some shrouding and NACA ducts for my brake coolers.

JWillis72 03-01-2015 11:07 AM

I like it and I would bet from my experience you will love it!

Orestp 09-08-2016 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3076158)
I looking for ideas for more cooling for my car, I ran Homestead a couple weeks ago and had it hot (light before hot or first light in hot) most of every session and it was only in the 70s. I have a CSF triple pass radiator in it, the hood is vented, running water and Water Wetter and have the fan going to 100% as low as I want to go. Next week we are installing a Stillen bumper, removing the washer fluid tank, venting both fenders to move some of the coolers to the side with fans to try to get them away from the radiator. I thought moving the heat away from the radiator would help but I am also adding a Frozen Boost cooler that will be in the way. What else can I do to cool it down?

So you no longer have the small trans cooler that was part of the OEM radiator - any issues with trans oil temps? I believe you have a 19 row trans oil cooler - correct?

Also - I read in another post that your engine oil cooler is not mounted in front of the radiator - is that correct? There's not much room between the rad fan shroud and the pulleys on the front of the engine.

jmroy6 09-08-2016 04:07 PM

Gtm rad & fans
 
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Found this on online...Im not an big eBay supporter but, this might be what your looking for if you really want to run cooler during the summer months.

GTM Ultra Large Radiator Assembly for 2009 - 2016 Nissan 370Z Auto + Manual Tran


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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 3076173)
Fans I would go with SPAL, shroud I don't think anyone has one specific for the 370z ever.
I will say this only because I know a member has one, but GTM had a fan/shroud combo built and for sale. This leads me to believe either the SPAL fans fit our shroud or can be modified to do so.


JWillis72 09-08-2016 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Orestp (Post 3549968)
So you no longer have the small trans cooler that was part of the OEM radiator - any issues with trans oil temps? I believe you have a 19 row trans oil cooler - correct?



Also - I read in another post that your engine oil cooler is not mounted in front of the radiator - is that correct? There's not much room between the rad fan shroud and the pulleys on the front of the engine.



My car is a 2009 so it didn't have that cooler but if it had I would have removed it. I have a Stillen bumper with the two extra vents. I have my oil cooler in one and my trans cooler in the other. It was the best thing I did for cooling everything. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...9fbedf0d0d.jpg


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shadow85 11-26-2016 03:09 AM

What about gamma HD radiator anyone using them? I was given a good offer for one, pretty keen to snap it up.


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