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Dragon_Ball_Z 01-04-2015 10:36 PM

Supercharge/Nos/Bolt-ons
 
Ok, guys I am kind of in a bind. I am getting a fast intentions exhaust from a buddy and my original plan was to just do bolt ons. I am thinking of either forced induction if it is not too much more money or just doing bolt ons and spraying Nitrous.

Intake Plenum: 400$
Headers with install: 700$
Exhaust: 1k
Tune: 700$
HFC's already installed: 450$

So i am at 3,250$ with just bolt ons if i go this route. I am looking into the stillen supercharger i believe 6k turn key or just spraying 100 shot of Nitrous. I want to do whichever is safer for the motor, but still have the horsepower. Also which would be a more reliable for a DD when i have to start DDing this car. Any input? If i did go forced induction, would this exhaust restrict the power too much?

SS_Firehawk 01-04-2015 10:59 PM

Sir, headers alone cost as much as the price you listed. The install is another $800. You're looking at $1600 minimum for good headers and install. Everything else looks reasonable

Dragon_Ball_Z 01-04-2015 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 3072781)
Sir, headers alone cost as much as the price you listed. The install is another $800. You're looking at $1600 minimum for good headers and install. Everything else looks reasonable

Thanks Firehawk, I am just trying to figure out the best route to go with this.

SS_Firehawk 01-04-2015 11:13 PM

For supercharching, any exhaust will be fine. Turbos, that's a different matter. IDB ts y pipe desgn, make sure its 3" at the collector.

2011 Nismo#91 01-05-2015 09:36 AM

Safe, any system done correctly will be safe. However the more things you add the more things that can break down. NA doesn't really add components so that will have the lowest risk of breaking down. TT has the most added with SC not far behind so has the higher chance, still low if done right, to break down.

Really it all depends on what you want/need out of the car and what you can afford. Do you need 500+whp to get to work and back? Do you plan on doing drag racing, autox, or track days often enough to justify the cost? Will you be doing all the installations yourself or would you take it to a shop, this will have a big impact on costs.

DavidZ370 01-05-2015 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rajmangal7 (Post 3072769)
Ok, guys I am kind of in a bind. I am getting a fast intentions exhaust from a buddy and my original plan was to just do bolt ons. I am thinking of either forced induction if it is not too much more money or just doing bolt ons and spraying NOS.

Intake Plenum: 400$
Headers with install: 700$
Exhaust: 1k
Tune: 700$
HFC's already installed: 450$

So i am at 3,250$ with just bolt ons if i go this route. I am looking into the stillen supercharger i believe 6k turn key or just spraying 100 shot of NOS. I want to do whichever is safer for the motor, but still have the horsepower. Also which would be a more reliable for a DD when i have to start DDing this car. Any input? If i did go forced induction, would this exhaust restrict the power too much?

:facepalm:

DavidZ370 01-05-2015 10:23 AM

Boosted Performance /thread

ANMVQ 01-05-2015 11:12 AM

The question is to you have an extra 10k on top of the FI cost, For when the motor lets go? Not saying it's 100% it going to pop but something you have to consider. If not just go fully bolted.

Merv 01-05-2015 11:27 AM

^^^ I agree.
I was really looking hard into buying a boosted performance kit,but decided to go with going full bolt on. It's my daily driver and although financially I'm pretty good,I don't have unlimited amounts of money to pour into the car should something go south. + it's my only wheels so I'd be basically stranded! Having said that,do what makes you happy. If boosting will scratch that itch you got,go for it!

Chuck33079 01-05-2015 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 3073037)
The question is to you have an extra 10k on top of the FI cost, For when the motor lets go? Not saying it's 100% it going to pop but something you have to consider. If not just go fully bolted.

This advice applies for NO2 as well.

gbrettin 01-05-2015 11:43 AM

Buy a sh1t box while your car is getting boosted.

jwick 01-05-2015 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merv (Post 3073049)
^^^ I agree.
I was really looking hard into buying a boosted performance kit,but decided to go with going full bolt on. It's my daily driver and although financially I'm pretty good,I don't have unlimited amounts of money to pour into the car should something go south. + it's my only wheels so I'd be basically stranded! Having said that,do what makes you happy. If boosting will scratch that itch you got,go for it!

I was fully 'bolted' and then went 'boosted'. There is no comparison:driving:

DavidZ370 01-05-2015 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merv (Post 3073049)
^^^ I agree.
I was really looking hard into buying a boosted performance kit,but decided to go with going full bolt on. It's my daily driver and although financially I'm pretty good,I don't have unlimited amounts of money to pour into the car should something go south. + it's my only wheels so I'd be basically stranded! Having said that,do what makes you happy. If boosting will scratch that itch you got,go for it!

Why not, get a damn Miata for 1000 bucks as a DD, and boost the Z, its more then likely that nothing will happen to the car unless you have a **** TUNER.

brancky3 01-05-2015 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidZ370 (Post 3073003)
:facepalm:

There's nothing wrong with a proper nitrous setup.

TopgunZ 01-05-2015 02:00 PM

No Single Turbo on the list? I cant vote.

theDreamer 01-05-2015 02:01 PM

Before this goes much farther.
-When you said, not to much for force induction please define that budget for us.

After that you can determine if you can even enter the boost world.
Also consider, some upgrade you do while NA can carry over into the boost world while others do not. So if you ever want a TT/SC look forward at what you should buy or maybe skip buying as you will just be replacing it and eating the cost.

Super Werty 01-05-2015 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brancky3 (Post 3073168)
There's nothing wrong with a proper nitrous setup.

The facepalm was for "spraying NOS" you don't spray NOS you spray nitrous

NOS is a brand

brancky3 01-05-2015 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super Werty (Post 3073190)
The facepalm was for "spraying NOS" you don't spray NOS you spray nitrous

NOS is a brand

Ahhh I totally overlooked that :roflpuke2:

Everyone knows it's spells NAWWZZZ

Dragon_Ball_Z 01-05-2015 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91 (Post 3072963)
Safe, any system done correctly will be safe. However the more things you add the more things that can break down. NA doesn't really add components so that will have the lowest risk of breaking down. TT has the most added with SC not far behind so has the higher chance, still low if done right, to break down.

Really it all depends on what you want/need out of the car and what you can afford. Do you need 500+whp to get to work and back? Do you plan on doing drag racing, autox, or track days often enough to justify the cost? Will you be doing all the installations yourself or would you take it to a shop, this will have a big impact on costs.

I plan do take installs to a shop. I can do the basics, exhaust, intake plenum, and hfc's. I would want to take FI to a shop. I am looking for a few track days out of the year and the rest DDing the car.

Dragon_Ball_Z 01-05-2015 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 3073174)
Before this goes much farther.
-When you said, not to much for force induction please define that budget for us.

After that you can determine if you can even enter the boost world.
Also consider, some upgrade you do while NA can carry over into the boost world while others do not. So if you ever want a TT/SC look forward at what you should buy or maybe skip buying as you will just be replacing it and eating the cost.

My budget is around 6k to 8k and if need be 10k. I would prefer to stay between 6 to 8.

Dragon_Ball_Z 01-05-2015 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super Werty (Post 3073190)
The facepalm was for "spraying NOS" you don't spray NOS you spray nitrous

NOS is a brand

Yea sorry, overlooked that when i was typing.

Chuck33079 01-05-2015 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rajmangal7 (Post 3073226)
My budget is around 6k to 8k and if need be 10k. I would prefer to stay between 6 to 8.

Then you flat out cannot afford boost. Whatever kit you buy, assume half again the cost of the kit in supporting mods.

theDreamer 01-05-2015 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rajmangal7 (Post 3073226)
My budget is around 6k to 8k and if need be 10k. I would prefer to stay between 6 to 8.

6 to 8k is the starting price, you can get a BP turbo kit and a few extras and probably get away with 8k but to set the car up right for a few track events and safety you will need to be in the 9-11k range.

Merv 01-05-2015 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3073093)
I was fully 'bolted' and then went 'boosted'. There is no comparison:driving:

I have no doubt about that!:driving:

jwick 01-05-2015 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 3073229)
6 to 8k is the starting price, you can get a BP turbo kit and a few extras and probably get away with 8k but to set the car up right for a few track events and safety you will need to be in the 9-11k range.

By the time you pay shipping and PayPal fees the BP kit is basically 8k.

Merv 01-05-2015 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidZ370 (Post 3073156)
Why not, get a damn Miata for 1000 bucks as a DD, and boost the Z, its more then likely that nothing will happen to the car unless you have a **** TUNER.

It also boiled down to money as well. To me,if I'm going to do boost,I'm going to do it right. All the proper supporting mods plus having somebody install it for me along with aftermarket clutch and a better dif was and still is too much for me at this time. That would break my savings account and I'm not too keen on putting a lot of things on credit!
Boost is in the future for me,but until then,NA is where it's at for me.

TopgunZ 01-05-2015 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super Werty (Post 3073190)
The facepalm was for "spraying NOS" you don't spray NOS you spray nitrous

NOS is a brand

Yeah. And dont use toilet paper, only Charmin.

Dragon_Ball_Z 01-05-2015 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3073238)
By the time you pay shipping and PayPal fees the BP kit is basically 8k.

Jwick are you running a BP kit?

Merv 01-05-2015 11:31 PM

Yes he is. It's in his signature.

Dragon_Ball_Z 01-06-2015 01:23 AM

Supercharge/Nos/Bolt-ons
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Merv (Post 3073577)
Yes he is. It's in his signature.


I'm using tapatalk, it doesn't show signatures. I'll look into a Bp kit. I really appreciate everyone's help.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

2011 Nismo#91 01-06-2015 08:57 AM

If your not doing the install yourself your looking at around a budget of 20-25k so it can survive a few track days. So just cross any boost of the list.

7500 - TT Tuner Kit GT28R .86 Housing TAIL BOV
2400 - OS Giken Twin Plate w/ Damper - Touring Hard Cover Upgraded Slave Cylinder
800 - Nissan Injector Set: 6x1050cc
200 - Motor Mounts
550 - Brake Upgrades XP10s SS Brake Lines Motul 600
700 - 25Row Oil Cooler
550 - AFR/Boost/Oil Psi Guages
1450 - Quafe LSD
300 - Exhaust Heat Wrap and/or IC Coating
1000 - CJM Fuel Starve Control or equivalent
700 - CSF Radiator
200 - Misc Fluids and Materials
600 - Uprev Fees and Tuning
40-48hrs of labor charges @ shop rats of ~$80/hr

jwick 01-06-2015 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91 (Post 3073794)
If your not doing the install yourself your looking at around a budget of 20-25k so it can survive a few track days. So just cross any boost of the list.

7500 - TT Tuner Kit GT28R .86 Housing TAIL BOV
2400 - OS Giken Twin Plate w/ Damper - Touring Hard Cover Upgraded Slave Cylinder
800 - Nissan Injector Set: 6x1050cc
200 - Motor Mounts
550 - Brake Upgrades XP10s SS Brake Lines Motul 600
700 - 25Row Oil Cooler
550 - AFR/Boost/Oil Psi Guages
1450 - Quafe LSD
300 - Exhaust Heat Wrap and/or IC Coating
1000 - CJM Fuel Starve Control or equivalent
700 - CSF Radiator
200 - Misc Fluids and Materials
600 - Uprev Fees and Tuning
40-48hrs of labor charges @ shop rats of ~$80/hr

:iagree: $20k is way back in my rearview and I installed myself

Dragon_Ball_Z 01-06-2015 09:26 AM

Appreciate it guys

swiss370Z 01-06-2015 10:26 AM

Hey Sir

If you need the "Z" as a daily driver,
remember that always something can happen to the engine (Cross Fingers)

I myself have every year, spent 3k extra for additional.

- New ECU setting
- All 3 - 5k Miles an oil change and full inspection
- New catalysts (are burned after every 10k miles)
- Higher tire wear
and so on......with a boosted Car

As written above,
a budget of 20-25k is absolutely realistic


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