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YzGyz 10-25-2014 01:10 AM

All I need?
 
I'm planning my build so I'm doing some searching and money crunching. I'm planning to install it myself.

Is this all I need for my trans upgrade to handle a turbo?

-There is supposedly a Clutch Master AL flywheel for the 370 for $530

-Clutch Masters Stage 3 FX300 Clutch Kit (highly recommended by my local car shop) $660. She says that her hardcore race guy (Ron B.) is not impressed with Southbend (what i was going to go with).

- ZSpeed HD Concentric Replacement Clutch Slave Cylinder CSC
$325.00

-Nissan OEM Clutch Master Cylinder 370Z G37 - 07-08 G35 Sedan
$110.00

-Premium Stainless Clutch Hose Upgrade HR/VHR 350Z G35 G37 370Z
$53

Am I missing anything to upgrade this trans? Bushing? bearings? or whatnot? If so, please place a link.

Edit:
Or should I just get this and be done with ? The other thing is which clutch to choose, street, puck high 5?
http://specialtyz.com/shop/default/s...4-and-v36.html

Thanks
YzGyz

Shawa 10-25-2014 05:26 AM

Id also get the Zspeed master cylinder as well, the OEM isn't they great

MJB 10-25-2014 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Shawa (Post 3012040)
Id also get the Zspeed master cylinder as well, the OEM isn't they great

As far as I know, Zspeed doesn't have an upgraded master cylinder for us, yet.

OP, the HD CSC already has a stainless steel line so no need to buy that other line you listed.

Chuck33079 10-25-2014 08:13 AM

I'd call Specialty Z and Z1 and talk them through your goals. Plus, most vendors will discount you a little if you ask over the phone on big purchases. Wouldn't be a bad idea to budget in one of those RJM clutch pedals. Some of the aftermarket clutches can be unpleasant to drive. And get a couple bottles of Motul RBF600 for fluid. Also, given that it's a real pain in the *** to change tranny fluid with a BP kit in place, go ahead and take care of that now too.

If you go with a light flywheel, prepare yourself for noise. Almost to the point where it sounds broken, but it's not.

YzGyz 10-25-2014 11:48 AM

So add a master, do tranz oil change, call and talk to them on power and expected power, which is 475/420 hp/trq. I'm leaning towards the Specialty Z thought. 475/420 hp/trq is my realistic daily drivable number.

ROBERT1183 10-25-2014 12:15 PM

I have the spec twin disc and flywheel. Zspeed upgraded clutch slave and new master on mine. Im at 501whp and 380trq at the moment.

Chuck33079 10-25-2014 12:29 PM

I've got a spec as well. I don't recommend them at all.

BBRSpeedWorks 10-25-2014 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3012214)
I've got a spec as well. I don't recommend them at all.

y not if you dont mind

YzGyz 10-28-2014 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BBRSpeedWorks (Post 3012257)
y not if you dont mind

By Spec, do you mean the SpecialtyZ SZ clutch? (Jwick was the one that rec them to me)

I'm curious too.

Chuck33079 10-28-2014 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by YzGyz (Post 3014634)
By Spec, do you mean the SpecialtyZ SZ clutch? (Jwick was the one that rec them to me)

I'm curious too.

No. Spec is a brand. Their quality control is iffy and their price is comparable with better options.

jwick 10-28-2014 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YzGyz (Post 3014634)
By Spec, do you mean the SpecialtyZ SZ clutch? (Jwick was the one that rec them to me)

I'm curious too.

The clutch I recommended is the one Tony is mating to all these FI TT kits and they seem to be holding the power just fine and I've not heard anything bad about them.

I'm running the Z1 lightweight FW and full face disk. I'm going to take a guess on power level since I was tuned on JTrans Mustang but 475/450 WHP/WTQ. So far I've not had any issues with it and the pedal engagement point is same as stock.

Just remember the clutch I pointed you to comes with the HD CSC included with the price so consider that in your pricing decision.

jwick 10-28-2014 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BBRSpeedWorks (Post 3012257)
y not if you dont mind

I know Chuck has his own reasons but my tuner tells me their quality control is horrible. He's had a lot of issues with bolt hole sizes being consistent causing fitment issues.

YzGyz 10-28-2014 10:22 AM

Which one of these clutches drive smoother and can handle the power? I find the stock 370 is friggin hard to drive smooth. The clutch in my brother's Shelby and Altima is super easy to drive smooth. It takes no effort at all to drive smoothly in those two cars. I have to ride the clutch more and work both pedals a lot more to smooth out a shift. It's a little "uncomfortable" for the female passenger(s). But, it does make there head and boobies bobble a little when I drive regularly (not trying to smooth shift).

YzGyz

jwick 10-28-2014 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by YzGyz (Post 3014667)
Which one of these clutches drive smoother and can handle the power? I find the stock 370 is friggin hard to drive smooth. The clutch in my brother's Shelby and Altima is super easy to drive smooth. It takes no effort at all to drive smoothly in those two cars. I have to ride the clutch more and work both pedals a lot more to smooth out a shift. It's a little "uncomfortable" for the female passenger(s). But, it does make there head and boobies bobble a little when I drive regularly (not trying to smooth shift).

YzGyz

Take the helper spring out. It'll give you a normal feeling clutch where you can tell the engagement point.

Of course I'm always confused when people tell me this manual is difficult to drive. I've never had an issue. So maybe disregard my input :ugh2:

john26jm 03-07-2015 02:15 PM

Does anybody know the staff height for the spec dual clutch

EVOHUNTER 03-10-2015 09:21 AM

The speciality z clutch is unreal, Its so smooth. I love mine. But its $$$$.
If I did it over again, I would fork out a little more cash and go with a dual assembly.

YzGyz 03-10-2015 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EVOHUNTER (Post 3133313)
The speciality z clutch is unreal, Its so smooth. I love mine. But its $$$$.
If I did it over again, I would fork out a little more cash and go with a dual assembly.

I wish I had the same story. My clutch is inconsistent even since install. I'm actually going to start dropping my transmission in 30minutes to check ok the ss lines and csc.

YzGyz

Chuck33079 03-10-2015 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by YzGyz (Post 3133566)
I wish I had the same story. My clutch is inconsistent even since install. I'm actually going to start dropping my transmission in 30minutes to check ok the ss lines and csc.

YzGyz

Hope it's an easy fix, because they'll leave you hanging if you need anything from them.

EVOHUNTER 03-10-2015 01:10 PM

mine was acting up for the first few weeks, I ended up changing the Master cyl. and manually bleed/ gravity bleeding. Works great now! it seems that the power bleeder doesn't work well. I could be wrong?

YzGyz 03-10-2015 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3133575)
Hope it's an easy fix, because they'll leave you hanging if you need anything from them.

IDK, he made me a video to try and help but I have not heard from him since. We will see.

How exactly did you gravity bleed it?

I think I will have to try this after I drop the thing to make sure everything is kosher.

YzGyz

Chuck33079 03-10-2015 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YzGyz (Post 3133682)
IDK, he made me a video to try and help but I have not heard from him since. We will see.

How exactly did you gravity bleed it?

I think I will have to try this after I drop the thing to make sure everything is kosher.

YzGyz

Pump the pedal a couple of times and open the fitting. Just let it drip for a little while before you really bleed it. I can't say if it worked or not, since I was trying to bleed a warped defective clutch.

EVOHUNTER 03-10-2015 03:23 PM

As chuck said, pump her a few times, crack your bleeder screw, I let mine gravity bleed for 3 hours or so, just keep an eye on it, and keep it toped up!

YzGyz 03-10-2015 04:01 PM

Damn it.. I'm thinking I could try and gravity bleed and see.. but then again, if that don't work I'm dropping it anyhow..The car is already on the stands and front tires off... I should of tried this week's ago. Grr!!


YzGyz

EVOHUNTER 03-11-2015 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YzGyz (Post 3133833)
Damn it.. I'm thinking I could try and gravity bleed and see.. but then again, if that don't work I'm dropping it anyhow..The car is already on the stands and front tires off... I should of tried this week's ago. Grr!!


YzGyz

How'd it go? did the bleed work?

YzGyz 03-11-2015 11:56 AM

I dropped my transmission and just got in contact with Seb. He said he will review the videos I made and reply.

I'm waiting for the reply so before I put her back together. Until I get the transmission back in, I can't continue with my turbo install. I really have to figure this thing out or my turbo is useless. I don't care who you are; it is not possible to get a good launch with the current clutch being boggy.

YzGyz

EVOHUNTER 03-11-2015 04:19 PM

Best of luck to you bro, hope it works out!

YzGyz 03-12-2015 12:38 PM

last night I checked my email and Seb asked me to send my clutch/flywheel in so he and his guy can check it out. No turbo or car for me this week, maybe even longer. I'm going to find me a loaner car for a few days when I have to get back to work. (I'm on "vacation.") Hope everything is OK or they fix whatever it is that makes this thing so spongy. Off to the shipping place I go.

YzGyz

Chuck33079 03-12-2015 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YzGyz (Post 3136045)
last night I checked my email and Seb asked me to send my clutch/flywheel in so he and his guy can check it out. No turbo or car for me this week, maybe even longer. I'm going to find me a loaner car for a few days when I have to get back to work. (I'm on "vacation.") Hope everything is OK or they fix whatever it is that makes this thing so spongy. Off to the shipping place I go.

YzGyz

Make sure you CYA, since if they find a defect they'll play the "Installer error" card and leave you with a rental car bill and a whole lot of labor that they promise they'll help with but they will back out once the time comes to cough up the money. Take a lot of pictures of it before the clutch leaves so they can't play any games.

And here's where everyone comes in to fellate that whole crew about their awesome customer service. :rolleyes:

Notice how the only people who keep stroking Specialty Z are the local guys who could go and make things intensely personal if they didn't give good customer service, and the guys who get boned are the out of state ones?

YzGyz 03-12-2015 02:17 PM

Too late.. I already sent it off..

Doh!!!@

john26jm 03-19-2015 04:59 PM

Who here is using the evc 6 boost controller


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