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TopgunZ · 12-11-2014, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

I'd argue that. You're blocking off the factory radiator with an intercooler. It'll be seeing nothing but hot air now. Additional capacity is pretty necessary at that point. Water temps get hot on these cars. Also, given how much of the kit you'd have to remove to swap out a clutch, doing it before the kit goes on is the most cost-effective option if you're paying labor.

Chuck, I would argue that since I am in Colorado and we seldom see 90+ degree days. However, even in the dead of summer I never seen my temps rise very much at all, but then again im running a colder fuel. Houston on pump gas could be very different.

But.. I have honestly never seen a need for an aftermarket radiator, for street use, on any of my vehicles. I had a twin charged 350z making extreme under hood temps with the top mount supercharger and the top mount turbo along with not 1 but 2 intercoolers plugging the air flow. I can honestly say that I never seen my temp rise at all.

Now if you are going to be doing autocross or time attacks thats a different situation.

Chuck33079 · 12-11-2014, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ

Chuck, I would argue that since I am in Colorado and we seldom see 90+ degree days. However, even in the dead of summer I never seen my temps rise very much at all, but then again im running a colder fuel. Houston on pump gas could be very different.

But.. I have honestly never seen a need for an aftermarket radiator, for street use, on any of my vehicles. I had a twin charged 350z making extreme under hood temps with the top mount supercharger and the top mount turbo along with not 1 but 2 intercoolers plugging the air flow. I can honestly say that I never seen my temp rise at all.

Now if you are going to be doing autocross or time attacks thats a different situation.

Are you talking water or oil temp? How are you monitoring water temp?

TopgunZ · 12-11-2014, 12:11 PM

Water. In my 350 it was just the dashboard gauge. Now in my 370 im using torque with the obd dongle.

Oil did rise. I have a Defi oil temp.

Chuck33079 · 12-11-2014, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ

Water. In my 350 it was just the dashboard gauge. Now in my 370 im using torque with the obd dongle.

Oil did rise. I have a Defi oil temp.

Ok. I'm seeing 200-220 degree water temps as normal on stock Zs. That's higher than I'd like to see even before you stick an intercooler in front of the radiator.

elperuano · 12-11-2014, 12:46 PM

If the shop quoted u around 7k for install and tune then you need another shop cuz that place is robbing you.

Chuck33079 · 12-11-2014, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by elperuano

If the shop quoted u around 7k for install and tune then you need another shop cuz that place is robbing you.

Agreed. I paid way less than that and I have a TT kit which required the motor to be dropped.

paratrooper · 12-11-2014, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Agreed. I paid way less than that and I have a TT kit which required the motor to be dropped.

I should clarify that it was install quoted at 16 hours, along with another system that was described as a very good idea. I know the shop has great ties with BP so that's why I contacted them, but when I saw almost 7K I about pooped myself. I was expecting around 1200 bucks for install and keep the whole project under 10k.

I should note that I'm not just blasting the shop either, I mentioned to him that this was much higher than I expected so I wouldn't be able to pursue my dream just yet.

Chuck33079 · 12-11-2014, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by paratrooper

I should clarify that it was install quoted at 16 hours, along with another system that was described as a very good idea. I know the shop has great ties with BP so that's why I contacted them, but when I saw almost 7K I about pooped myself. I was expecting around 1200 bucks for install and keep the whole project under 10k.

I should note that I'm not just blasting the shop either, I mentioned to him that this was much higher than I expected so I wouldn't be able to pursue my dream just yet.

That's a terrible price. Find another shop or DIY. 7k for 16 hours is over $400 per hour. **** that guy and his whole family.

jwick · 12-11-2014, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

That's a terrible price. Find another shop or DIY. 7k for 16 hours is over $400 per hour. **** that guy and his whole family.

Absolutely. For $7k they should be supplying the remainder of your required mods and handle the install.

TopgunZ · 12-11-2014, 03:34 PM

If you can change your oil and spark plugs. You can install this yourself. It couldnt be easier with the giant colored picture book it comes with. Well i guess it could be a pop up book.

If you have any mechanical abilities at all just dont even worry about paying a shop to do it. Not only will you be able to troubleshoot any issues and/or uninstall it if you ever sell your car, but you can take pride you did it yourself and built your own car.

You will be charged another $1200 for uninstall some day. And if you have emmisions tests you will be taking most of the kit off in 2 years.

Cell · 12-11-2014, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ

If you can change your oil and spark plugs. You can install this yourself. It couldnt be easier with the giant colored picture book it comes with. Well i guess it could be a pop up book.

If you have any mechanical abilities at all just dont even worry about paying a shop to do it. Not only will you be able to troubleshoot any issues and/or uninstall it if you ever sell your car, but you can take pride you did it yourself and built your own car.

You will be charged another $1200 for uninstall some day. And if you have emmisions tests you will be taking most of the kit off in 2 years.

Depends what state people do their emissions. Here in Chicago, I did it with the full kit on. It normally would fail but there is a small window of opportunity to pass emissions after you reset your ECU and drive it for a little.

Cell · 12-11-2014, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick

Absolutely. For $7k they should be supplying the remainder of your required mods and handle the install.

Would still over pay if they only paid for other supporting mods.

Cell · 12-11-2014, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick

Good point. There is a couple thousand savings with a ST kit.

The idle hiccup is something that I thought all the guys that eliminated the PCV system were having. I know Mitch, Gale and I have had long discussions about it. If you aren't having it I'd be real interested to understand what your tuner did to eliminate it. It was part of my base map (R/T Tuning), my custom tune and Mitch has it and he tunes himself. Basically when I come up to a stop light/sign and a complete stop the car will drop a couple hundred RPMS, go way lean (16-17 AFR) and then pretty rich (12-13), then it stabilizes itself.

My tuner tuned it out. I don't have that problem.

zguynate · 12-11-2014, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by paratrooper

I should clarify that it was install quoted at 16 hours, along with another system that was described as a very good idea. I know the shop has great ties with BP so that's why I contacted them, but when I saw almost 7K I about pooped myself. I was expecting around 1200 bucks for install and keep the whole project under 10k.

I should note that I'm not just blasting the shop either, I mentioned to him that this was much higher than I expected so I wouldn't be able to pursue my dream just yet.

Bro.... Id pack up my tools, take off work for a week, drive up there, install your kit, drive it to a tuner and get it tuned for you for half of that asking price lol.

But seriously, if you can change your oil and your spark plugs, you can install this with basic tools. Grab a buddy who is more mechanically inclined if need be and knock this out. You will learn about the components and the car which is a good thing just in case you have any issues later. You will then have an understanding of the system and could possibly avoid a costly trip to a shop.

paratrooper · 12-11-2014, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dragonbreath

Bro.... Id pack up my tools, take off work for a week, drive up there, install your kit, drive it to a tuner and get it tuned for you for half of that asking price lol.

But seriously, if you can change your oil and your spark plugs, you can install this with basic tools. Grab a buddy who is more mechanically inclined if need be and knock this out. You will learn about the components and the car which is a good thing just in case you have any issues later. You will then have an understanding of the system and could possibly avoid a costly trip to a shop.

That's the other issue.. Here in Indiana i can't seem to find a tuner close so even after install I'll have to rely on the supplied map until I can get time to trailer it to a tuner.

I change my oil, plugs, brakes, my G3s and anything else really. I suppose my biggest fear is the subtle issues with oil lines and such that worry me. Sounds like I shluld just pony up and do it, I guess it looks like a few of you would totally be around to help if I have questions!

12-11-2014, 12:11 PM	#198 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6834	Water. In my 350 it was just the dashboard gauge. Now in my 370 im using torque with the obd dongle. Oil did rise. I have a Defi oil temp. __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM

12-11-2014, 12:46 PM	#200 (permalink)
elperuano A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Southwest FL Posts: 1,374 Drives: G37S Rep Power: 29	If the shop quoted u around 7k for install and tune then you need another shop cuz that place is robbing you. Chuck33079 and Rob298mx like this.

12-11-2014, 03:34 PM	#205 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6834	If you can change your oil and spark plugs. You can install this yourself. It couldnt be easier with the giant colored picture book it comes with. Well i guess it could be a pop up book. If you have any mechanical abilities at all just dont even worry about paying a shop to do it. Not only will you be able to troubleshoot any issues and/or uninstall it if you ever sell your car, but you can take pride you did it yourself and built your own car. You will be charged another $1200 for uninstall some day. And if you have emmisions tests you will be taking most of the kit off in 2 years. zguynate likes this. __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM

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