Boosted Performance V 2.0 turbo list

jwick · 12-11-2014, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by barretp

FI noob here. What are the pros and cons of a TT set up vs this one?

As an aside. Mine is installed and up and running. You are more welcome to ask me any specific questions or I'd be willing to let you check out the car. it's currently at the shop for the V1.5 piping retune but I should have it back next week.

TopgunZ · 12-11-2014, 08:16 AM

Good comparison write up Jwick!

The only one I am curious about is the hiccup at idle you speak of. I have never noticed it. Not saying it isn't there, just never noticed it.

One thing you left out is price. The ST will cost a couple thousand less than twins.

jwick · 12-11-2014, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ

Good comparison write up Jwick!

The only one I am curious about is the hiccup at idle you speak of. I have never noticed it. Not saying it isn't there, just never noticed it.

One thing you left out is price. The ST will cost a couple thousand less than twins.

Good point. There is a couple thousand savings with a ST kit.

The idle hiccup is something that I thought all the guys that eliminated the PCV system were having. I know Mitch, Gale and I have had long discussions about it. If you aren't having it I'd be real interested to understand what your tuner did to eliminate it. It was part of my base map (R/T Tuning), my custom tune and Mitch has it and he tunes himself. Basically when I come up to a stop light/sign and a complete stop the car will drop a couple hundred RPMS, go way lean (16-17 AFR) and then pretty rich (12-13), then it stabilizes itself.

TopgunZ · 12-11-2014, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jwick

Good point. There is a couple thousand savings with a ST kit.

The idle hiccup is something that I thought all the guys that eliminated the PCV system were having. I know Mitch, Gale and I have had long discussions about it. If you aren't having it I'd be real interested to understand what your tuner did to eliminate it. It was part of my base map (R/T Tuning), my custom tune and Mitch has it and he tunes himself. Basically when I come up to a stop light/sign and a complete stop the car will drop a couple hundred RPMS, go way lean (16-17 AFR) and then pretty rich (12-13), then it stabilizes itself.

Maybe its my E85 tune that tuned it out. Not sure. But I had that hiccup really bad with my old Utec EMS. It was annoying.

I am also on ID1000's. Could be something there as well.

Are hot starts an issue at all? Does it take a bit more cranking?

jwick · 12-11-2014, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ

Maybe its my E85 tune that tuned it out. Not sure. But I had that hiccup really bad with my old Utec EMS. It was annoying.

I am also on ID1000's. Could be something there as well.

Are hot starts an issue at all? Does it take a bit more cranking?

No starting issues at all. I'm convinced that the ECU is expecting crankcase gases to be recycled into the intake. By venting that PCV I think it stumbles slightly expecting a little bit of rich air that doesn't come in. Of course it could be the other direction and when the crank case goes high vacuum it sucks in a bunch of unmetered air. I'm grasping at straws and I'm not a tuner

It's very minor these days but it's still there. My idle cleaned up a ton when I pull the post-cat O2s complete out.

TopgunZ · 12-11-2014, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jwick

No starting issues at all. I'm convinced that the ECU is expecting crankcase gases to be recycled into the intake. By venting that PCV I think it stumbles slightly expecting a little bit of rich air that doesn't come in. Of course it could be the other direction and when the crank case goes high vacuum it sucks in a bunch of unmetered air. I'm grasping at straws and I'm not a tuner

It's very minor these days but it's still there. My idle cleaned up a ton when I pull the post-cat O2s complete out.

Are you able to keep the CEL cleared off after the O2 deletes?

jwick · 12-11-2014, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ

Are you able to keep the CEL cleared off after the O2 deletes?

It never showed up. Now in all fairness I've only been running that way for about 25-30 miles. I'm thinking my tuner removed that code when he tuned it.

Cell · 12-11-2014, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick

Good point. There is a couple thousand savings with a ST kit.

The idle hiccup is something that I thought all the guys that eliminated the PCV system were having. I know Mitch, Gale and I have had long discussions about it. If you aren't having it I'd be real interested to understand what your tuner did to eliminate it. It was part of my base map (R/T Tuning), my custom tune and Mitch has it and he tunes himself. Basically when I come up to a stop light/sign and a complete stop the car will drop a couple hundred RPMS, go way lean (16-17 AFR) and then pretty rich (12-13), then it stabilizes itself.

My tuner tuned it out. I don't have that problem.

jwick · 12-11-2014, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cell

My tuner tuned it out. I don't have that problem.

Who's your tuner?

Cell · 12-11-2014, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick

Who's your tuner?

Eli at Project X Customs.

jwick · 12-12-2014, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Cell

Eli at Project X Customs.

Never heard of him.

Just out of curiosity, did you have the described hiccup on the base map?

barretp · 12-12-2014, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jwick

As an aside. Mine is installed and up and running. You are more welcome to ask me any specific questions or I'd be willing to let you check out the car. it's currently at the shop for the V1.5 piping retune but I should have it back next week.

Thanks man. I followed your build and I was super impressed with your install. I'll definitely be doing more research. My only concerns are is I'm not the most mechanically inclined when it comes to cars and this is the only car I have, so I'd need to do the install all in one sitting.

jwick · 12-12-2014, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by barretp

Thanks man. I followed your build and I was super impressed with your install. I'll definitely be doing more research. My only concerns are is I'm not the most mechanically inclined when it comes to cars and this is the only car I have, so I'd need to do the install all in one sitting.

There have been guys that have installed this kit and never done anything more than an oil change to their car. The mechanical portions are easy. If you can't solder then the pump relay might give you an issue but it's less than an hour job if you need help. The fuel pump was the part that concerned me the most having never been in a fuel tank before but the upgrade was really simple and the instructions very detailed.

If you don't get carried away with electronic gauges and boost controller, this project could be knocked out in a long weekend. We did it in two but I kind of went crazy with electronics and heat management.

paratrooper · 12-12-2014, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jwick

There have been guys that have installed this kit and never done anything more than an oil change to their car. The mechanical portions are easy. If you can't solder then the pump relay might give you an issue but it's less than an hour job if you need help. The fuel pump was the part that concerned me the most having never been in a fuel tank before but the upgrade was really simple and the instructions very detailed.

If you don't get carried away with electronic gauges and boost controller, this project could be knocked out in a long weekend. We did it in two but I kind of went crazy with electronics and heat management.

Ok so FI noob questions (well I did have a turbo buick verano lol) is it necessary to have the AF and Boost gauges ? Boost controller ? I wanted mine to look as normal as possible and to create a sort of sleeper feel.

I gather that the rad is about the 2nd most important part I need that isn't included in the BP kit, is that mainly it ?

Also are you considering the flywheel / clutch to be part of the easy install, or another beast of its own ?

Thanks in advance you're helping my decision process quite a bit!

Chuck33079 · 12-12-2014, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by paratrooper

Ok so FI noob questions (well I did have a turbo buick verano lol) is it necessary to have the AF and Boost gauges ? Boost controller ? I wanted mine to look as normal as possible and to create a sort of sleeper feel.

Gauges are an absolute, carved in stone requirement. A boost controller is just a really, really good idea.

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I gather that the rad is about the 2nd most important part I need that isn't included in the BP kit, is that mainly it ?

Radiator, cat-back if you don't have one, and a whole bunch of $100 odds and ends.

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Also are you considering the flywheel / clutch to be part of the easy install, or another beast of its own ?

No, that's a completely different can of worms. Personally, I'd want to make sure the clutch / flywheel / CSC is installed and properly broken in before the kit goes on. Otherwise you've signed up for a major pain in the *** since half the kit will have to come out. And I bet you'd smoke the stock clutch on the dyno.

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