Agreed. I paid way less than that and I have a TT kit which required the motor to be dropped.

I should clarify that it was install quoted at 16 hours, along with another system that was described as a very good idea. I know the shop has great ties with BP so that's why I contacted them, but when I saw almost 7K I about pooped myself. I was expecting around 1200 bucks for install and keep the whole project under 10k.

I should note that I'm not just blasting the shop either, I mentioned to him that this was much higher than I expected so I wouldn't be able to pursue my dream just yet.

That's a terrible price. Find another shop or DIY. 7k for 16 hours is over $400 per hour. **** that guy and his whole family.

Absolutely. For $7k they should be supplying the remainder of your required mods and handle the install.

If you can change your oil and spark plugs. You can install this yourself. It couldnt be easier with the giant colored picture book it comes with. Well i guess it could be a pop up book.

If you have any mechanical abilities at all just dont even worry about paying a shop to do it. Not only will you be able to troubleshoot any issues and/or uninstall it if you ever sell your car, but you can take pride you did it yourself and built your own car.

You will be charged another $1200 for uninstall some day. And if you have emmisions tests you will be taking most of the kit off in 2 years.

Depends what state people do their emissions. Here in Chicago, I did it with the full kit on. It normally would fail but there is a small window of opportunity to pass emissions after you reset your ECU and drive it for a little.

Would still over pay if they only paid for other supporting mods.

My tuner tuned it out. I don't have that problem.

Bro.... Id pack up my tools, take off work for a week, drive up there, install your kit, drive it to a tuner and get it tuned for you for half of that asking price lol.

But seriously, if you can change your oil and your spark plugs, you can install this with basic tools. Grab a buddy who is more mechanically inclined if need be and knock this out. You will learn about the components and the car which is a good thing just in case you have any issues later. You will then have an understanding of the system and could possibly avoid a costly trip to a shop.

That's the other issue.. Here in Indiana i can't seem to find a tuner close so even after install I'll have to rely on the supplied map until I can get time to trailer it to a tuner.

I change my oil, plugs, brakes, my G3s and anything else really. I suppose my biggest fear is the subtle issues with oil lines and such that worry me. Sounds like I shluld just pony up and do it, I guess it looks like a few of you would totally be around to help if I have questions!

Who's your tuner?

The base map is fine to drive on. You won't need to trailer it anywhere.

Agreed. Just run WG pressure and don't install a boost control until you go get it tuned

I'm really just thinking I only want to run mild boost anyway so shouldn't be an issue

Famous last words. Boost is an addictive. :rofl2:

Hahaha. No doubt! Its like red bull to tyrone biggums.

Hahaha

Eli at Project X Customs.

Thanks man. I followed your build and I was super impressed with your install. I'll definitely be doing more research. My only concerns are is I'm not the most mechanically inclined when it comes to cars and this is the only car I have, so I'd need to do the install all in one sitting.

All I know is that I have read the BP 1 tread like 2.5x. The kit is just ingenious. I then waited and waited for Shasha to build the kit again. I was finally able to save the $$ for the kit but I missed the opportunity for the 2nd batch. A few months later v2 came out and I jumped on it. All I'm going to say is that Shasha is building this kit now and has some kits with no name on them. If you miss this round, you might have to wait a long time.

I'm thinking of doing a simple recoding of the install when I start wrenching. If it's as easy as everyone says it is (i think it is), the video will be simple.

I'm going to install different parts in different stages and times. I plan to do the trans and diff together. Next install is the turbo kit, then the Rad once it gets hotter.

YzGyz

You need to do the radiator before or at the same time with the turbo install. You do not want to have to pull all your Ic piping, intercooler and oil cooler just to get to the radiator. It'll never be easier than when its stock. Plus you have to evacuate the AC so doing that when its cooler is wise since you could run around a few days with having it recharged.

I was planning to do it before but was going to see what temps I get prior to the CSF. I'm doing everything myself so I'm not worried about any shop labor.

I totally forgot about the oil cooler though. DOH!.. That can be a little messy. We will see.

Jwick, don't you sleep man?

YzGyz

Never heard of him.

Just out of curiosity, did you have the described hiccup on the base map?

Trust me you don't want to pull the intercooler if you don't have too. You definitely don't want to have to remove the oil cooler later one. You have a Z in Houston were temperature are above 90deg half the year. You need the radiator upgrade. Just add it to the list pre-turbo. Chuck and I did it in the garage and it took a little more than half a day. Much less if I had know the heat gun trick for the silicon hoses.

I sleep but my body has typically only needed about 6hrs a night.

I read your install thread and I realize that you did it over several weeks, but overall how many hours would you say it took you and your buddy ?

That lift sure looks like it made life easier too. I'll have to do mine on a set of jacks in the good ole garage.. pending the warden lets me park her car outside for a week or so.

There have been guys that have installed this kit and never done anything more than an oil change to their car. The mechanical portions are easy. If you can't solder then the pump relay might give you an issue but it's less than an hour job if you need help. The fuel pump was the part that concerned me the most having never been in a fuel tank before but the upgrade was really simple and the instructions very detailed.

If you don't get carried away with electronic gauges and boost controller, this project could be knocked out in a long weekend. We did it in two but I kind of went crazy with electronics and heat management.

Ok so FI noob questions (well I did have a turbo buick verano lol) is it necessary to have the AF and Boost gauges ? Boost controller ? I wanted mine to look as normal as possible and to create a sort of sleeper feel.

I gather that the rad is about the 2nd most important part I need that isn't included in the BP kit, is that mainly it ?

Also are you considering the flywheel / clutch to be part of the easy install, or another beast of its own ?


Thanks in advance you're helping my decision process quite a bit!

Gauges are an absolute, carved in stone requirement. A boost controller is just a really, really good idea.

Radiator, cat-back if you don't have one, and a whole bunch of $100 odds and ends.

No, that's a completely different can of worms. Personally, I'd want to make sure the clutch / flywheel / CSC is installed and properly broken in before the kit goes on. Otherwise you've signed up for a major pain in the *** since half the kit will have to come out. And I bet you'd smoke the stock clutch on the dyno.

We did it over two full weekends (Thursday night, all Friday, all Saturday and taking Sunday off) and a half a Saturday the weekend before to do the radiator. I will note that I farmed out the clutch install, mainly because I didn't feel like benchpressing a transmission.

If I had to guess it was 30-35 hrs worth of work. A good 10 hours of that was eaten up by the extra gauges and my heat management analness of wrapping everything. We also spend several hours trying to clock the turbo and get the turbo coupler on. Now that Sasha has redesigned the kit the install is much easier. With the new routing I would estimate it knocked a good 3-4 hours off the total install.

I feel pretty confident that had I to do it all over again I could knock it out in one weekend. Definitely two weekends if you were going to fiddle with it during the week after work.

:iagree: what he said. Chuck has first hand knowledge of the whole process since he was the 'buddy' that helped me with it.

I had the clutch installed a month prior and did a proper break-in before the turbo kit ever went on.

Loads of great info from both of you... I saw all the heat wrapping you did and thought to myself that is pretty anal ... lol.

Let me ask this... why is boost gauge so integral if I only plan on ever running the exact same amount of boost ? Also did you get a pillar made by galeforce ? Looks like the 3 pod dash cluster is exactly that.. a cluster to change. I saw where one guy literally smashed out the gauges to install new ones ... :ugh2:

While I'm thinking about it.. I'm sure the two of you both likely just want to take a road trip to Indiana anyway.. might as well just plan on it for spring.. haha. I have a big house and plenty of booze !

Bacause you want to know that you're always running that amount of boost. What if a wastegate line melts or comes off? How would you know you're overboosting before your motor explodes? What if you've got a wastegate stuck open? How would you know that you're not making enough boost?

Touche' Chuck... touche' :owned:

Or you could drive it to H-Town :tup:

That's like the other side of the US of A !

That's what I said:rofl2:

You really only need to jack up the front of the car. This way it is safer and easier. Just get the front nice and high and you wont have to worry about fitting under it as much. This is how I work on mine.

By installing just the kit on its own, I think I could do this by myself in a single weekend if you dont run into any problems along the way. With a buddy and a case of coors i bet it could be done in a single day. A long day/night but it could be done.

Wait...Whats the heat gun trick?

I don't think I should come into too many issues with it being a 2014 with only 5k miles on it.

I just read the instructions and I don't really see anything that looks too tough at all. Just looks like something I might be over anal about and take my time with over a week off of work.

Obviously though the instructions then don't include boost controller or gauges so that's a different beast, not to mention where to put them since I've only heard of one source for the pillar pods.