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FPenvy 10-20-2011 04:09 PM

with all the talk in this thread about goin with a different block an whatnot does anyone know how much psi a stock block can take safely? i read the whole thread and didnt really see anyone talk about it besides someone saying they were goin up a psi on their tune.

i'm lookin to go FI with a GTM stage 2 TT over the winter while my Z is in the garage and i'll have 3-4 months to do it right. i'm just looking to hit 500whp for now since 9k for the TT kit is all i really got at the moment. i'll worry bout rods & pistons later when i wanna go over 500whp.

also i got a 7AT. anyone know if theres problems with that so far. please don't bash for me not knowing this i just got my Z in june and new to this engine/tranny so my knowledge is limited.

theDreamer 10-20-2011 04:11 PM

There is no real answer to what PSI/HP/TQ the block can handle so far, most of the blown blocks have been other circumstances and so far people running 500whp have been doing alright (more time is needed).
7AT upgrade is being finalized by GTM, they have shown some pieces but not much yet on pricing or other details. Will you need it? Probably not initially, something you can prep for in the future.

FPenvy 10-20-2011 04:30 PM

yea i saw on their website some STG 3 AT tranny upgrade for like $5k. thats alot of cash though. i havent found anyone runnin TT on a 7AT having problems yet unless i've missed something lol.

Nixlimited 10-21-2011 10:52 AM

Note that asking what PSI a block can handle is inherently an unanswerable question since it all depends on the setup. For example, a small turbo may flow X CFM of air at 20 psi while I larger turbo flows Y CFM of air at 20 psi, and Y > X. I think it's easier to talk in how much HP or TQ a block can handle as measured on a dyno. But even then you have tons of variation between dynos.

wstar 10-21-2011 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Nixlimited (Post 1370363)
Note that asking what PSI a block can handle is inherently an unanswerable question since it all depends on the setup. For example, a small turbo may flow X CFM of air at 20 psi while I larger turbo flows Y CFM of air at 20 psi, and Y > X. I think it's easier to talk in how much HP or TQ a block can handle as measured on a dyno. But even then you have tons of variation between dynos.

Well, and even then, given we're discussing stroker kits that mess with cylinder volumes and compression ratios, even torque testing isn't a valid comparison between different builds of the same basic engine. Just too many variables.

Nixlimited 10-21-2011 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by wstar (Post 1370440)
Well, and even then, given we're discussing stroker kits that mess with cylinder volumes and compression ratios, even torque testing isn't a valid comparison between different builds of the same basic engine. Just too many variables.

Exactly.

GambitX 10-21-2011 08:07 PM

If your friends with UPREV on FB, you will see they are now doing testing on the tolerences of the VQ motor right now

christian370z 10-22-2011 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GambitX (Post 1371247)
If your friends with UPREV on FB, you will see they are now doing testing on the tolerences of the VQ motor right now

What do they plan on using that information for?

JB-370z 11-13-2011 10:07 AM

Sam says that us folks with stage 2 turbos might be able to see 650-700whp. This has to do with the compression ratio as well. So my plan is to try and get to that 700whp mark. I was hoping to get a clear idea of what needs to be done. How much more tuning is involved with changing the compression? Can I use the stock ECU? etc....

bullitt5897 11-13-2011 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JB-370z (Post 1404900)
Sam says that us folks with stage 2 turbos might be able to see 650-700whp. This has to do with the compression ratio as well. So my plan is to try and get to that 700whp mark. I was hoping to get a clear idea of what needs to be done. How much more tuning is involved with changing the compression? Can I use the stock ECU? etc....

You will need to build the motor, upgrade your fuel system, upgrade your clutch and you can still use the stock ecu. We hit over 1000hp on the stock ecu! :tup:

FPenvy 11-16-2011 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bullitt@UAMotorsports (Post 1405335)
You will need to build the motor, upgrade your fuel system, upgrade your clutch and you can still use the stock ecu. We hit over 1000hp on the stock ecu! :tup:

since you guys have already done this a few times and i havent what other engine upgrades would i need to hit 550-600whp with a gtm stage 2 TT turn-key set-up? i already have a full exhaust system already and obviously the basic fuel kit upgrade comes with the kit. i'm just unsure if i would need rods, pistons, etc.. to hit 550-600whp.

Nixlimited 11-16-2011 04:22 PM

I think the prevailing opinion is that you need a built shortblock to go above 500 WHP "reliably."

Dzel 12-04-2012 04:06 PM

How have I missed this Thread! PM me price for a stroker kit to 79705? I have some more questions as well but would rather get on a one onn one kinda thing.


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