E85 with a Stillen supercharger?

dmhenderson · 09-25-2014, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72

I have three now, 93, 93 with meth and one that only goes 60mph or 4000 rpm( I let my son take the car to prom).

mmm yes meth injection. I have been toying with the idea of a meth injection kit for a while. I already have all of the necessary supporting mods I think.

Chuck33079 · 09-25-2014, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson

mmm yes meth injection. I have been toying with the idea of a meth injection kit for a while. I already have all of the necessary supporting mods I think.

Just to add to the 93 map? I thought meth+93 was lower octane than E85?

jwick · 09-25-2014, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Just to add to the 93 map? I thought meth+93 was lower octane than E85?

dmhenderson · 09-26-2014, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Just to add to the 93 map? I thought meth+93 was lower octane than E85?

Yeah wasn't sure about this or whether there was any benefit to E85 + meth. Turns out there isn't so nevermind

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roplusbee · 09-26-2014, 06:31 AM

Check the finished builds. I have ID1000s and I am on 93. I would do e85 like Phunk, but I can't reliable make my trip from Fort Hood to Baltimore without risking getting stranded somewhere and/or carrying fuel with me. So 93 it is........

Edit: so it seems I never added my info to the finished builds (damn son, where'd you find this?). I just submitted my info, lol.

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Pro4Jackster · 09-26-2014, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson

Don't have that luxury with a supercharger. I mean, you could keep it really low but it's not like a turbo where you can just keep it completely out.

I had no problems keeping the car in vacuum when I was supercharged. Stay light on the throttle and the BPV stays open.

dmhenderson · 09-26-2014, 10:36 AM

I'd rather just not chance it. It's easy enough to flip between tunes.

R3drckt09 · 09-26-2014, 02:11 PM

Is it a lot more expensive to run E85? I'm moving to Albuquerque NM in about a year and a half and they don't have 93, but they do have a few E85 has stations so I'm considering just changing to that

Chuck33079 · 09-26-2014, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by R3drckt09

Is it a lot more expensive to run E85? I'm moving to Albuquerque NM in about a year and a half and they don't have 93, but they do have a few E85 has stations so I'm considering just changing to that

It's a coin flip. It's cheaper per gallon, but your mileage will drop.

dmhenderson · 09-26-2014, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

It's a coin flip. It's cheaper per gallon, but your mileage will drop.

"significantly"

roplusbee · 09-27-2014, 04:46 AM

I questioned Phunk about this adamantly. I was going to make the change, but I needed to know that I would have the range to make 400-500 highway miles. I can make 500+ highway miles on 93 OCT, but I barely get 225-250 miles stop and go. Charles said that he hasn't attempted any long range trips with his setup and could not give me any good feedback, but he did give me a wealth of information on stop and go, local/short range trips, and spirited driving. Let's just say that he has a good idea of where all of the local stations are that carry E85 in his area.

So if you loose say 30% of your fuel economy AND sitting right at the edge of vacuum/boost for max efficiency, that would put my best range at 350+ miles highway and 157-175 miles stop and go. That is no where near what is necessay to make it the distance from station to station (that sell E85) in some sections of I-20E (my preferred route) or Arkansas, Tennessee, and the Appalachian Mountains. Pretty much screwed as soon as I leave TX until I make it to the East Coast states.. That is why no E85 for me. If you a planning to make the switch, please do your homework or get another vehicle to DD. And for reference, my other vehicle is an 04 Tahoe......so much for efficiency.

phunk · 09-27-2014, 08:19 PM

I dont get to leave town much! The furthest I generally get is about 100 miles out, in which case I can do that round trip on a tank.

LukasC · 10-05-2014, 12:01 PM

You arnt screwed just switch to ur 93 map and put 93 in and good to go.

dmhenderson · 10-05-2014, 05:43 PM

It's not quite that easy. You have to have the tank completely empty before you do that. These aren't engines that are designed for flex fuel that automatically adjust the ECU based on fuel mix. It's 100% one or 100% the other.

phunk · 10-05-2014, 05:51 PM

Get it down until the gas light has been on for a few minutes and that will be enough!

09-26-2014, 06:31 AM	#65 (permalink)
roplusbee A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Killeen, TX Posts: 2,360 Drives: 2007 350Z NISMO Rep Power: 22	Check the finished builds. I have ID1000s and I am on 93. I would do e85 like Phunk, but I can't reliable make my trip from Fort Hood to Baltimore without risking getting stranded somewhere and/or carrying fuel with me. So 93 it is........ Edit: so it seems I never added my info to the finished builds (damn son, where'd you find this?). I just submitted my info, lol. Sent from my SGH-T889 using Tapatalk __________________ 2007 350Z NISMO #0618: Zerolift \| UPREV \| F.I. \| Greddy \| Competition Clutch \| Injector Dynamics \| Aeromotive \| Pioneer \| JL Last edited by roplusbee; 09-26-2014 at 12:37 PM.

09-26-2014, 10:36 AM	#67 (permalink)
dmhenderson A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Maryland Posts: 5,930 Drives: AWD TT 370z Rep Power: 26	I'd rather just not chance it. It's easy enough to flip between tunes. __________________

09-27-2014, 04:46 AM	#71 (permalink)
roplusbee A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Killeen, TX Posts: 2,360 Drives: 2007 350Z NISMO Rep Power: 22	I questioned Phunk about this adamantly. I was going to make the change, but I needed to know that I would have the range to make 400-500 highway miles. I can make 500+ highway miles on 93 OCT, but I barely get 225-250 miles stop and go. Charles said that he hasn't attempted any long range trips with his setup and could not give me any good feedback, but he did give me a wealth of information on stop and go, local/short range trips, and spirited driving. Let's just say that he has a good idea of where all of the local stations are that carry E85 in his area. So if you loose say 30% of your fuel economy AND sitting right at the edge of vacuum/boost for max efficiency, that would put my best range at 350+ miles highway and 157-175 miles stop and go. That is no where near what is necessay to make it the distance from station to station (that sell E85) in some sections of I-20E (my preferred route) or Arkansas, Tennessee, and the Appalachian Mountains. Pretty much screwed as soon as I leave TX until I make it to the East Coast states.. That is why no E85 for me. If you a planning to make the switch, please do your homework or get another vehicle to DD. And for reference, my other vehicle is an 04 Tahoe......so much for efficiency. __________________ 2007 350Z NISMO #0618: Zerolift \| UPREV \| F.I. \| Greddy \| Competition Clutch \| Injector Dynamics \| Aeromotive \| Pioneer \| JL

09-27-2014, 08:19 PM	#72 (permalink)
phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,668 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 974723	I dont get to leave town much! The furthest I generally get is about 100 miles out, in which case I can do that round trip on a tank. Mkai0 likes this. __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph

10-05-2014, 12:01 PM	#73 (permalink)
LukasC Track Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: San Antonio, Tx Posts: 664 Drives: 11 Stillen SC Bl M6 Rep Power: 17	You arnt screwed just switch to ur 93 map and put 93 in and good to go. Mkai0 likes this.

09-26-2014, 02:11 PM	#68 (permalink)
R3drckt09 Base Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Texas Posts: 145 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z Base Rep Power: 12	Is it a lot more expensive to run E85? I'm moving to Albuquerque NM in about a year and a half and they don't have 93, but they do have a few E85 has stations so I'm considering just changing to that

10-05-2014, 05:43 PM	#74 (permalink)
dmhenderson A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Maryland Posts: 5,930 Drives: AWD TT 370z Rep Power: 26	It's not quite that easy. You have to have the tank completely empty before you do that. These aren't engines that are designed for flex fuel that automatically adjust the ECU based on fuel mix. It's 100% one or 100% the other. __________________

10-05-2014, 05:51 PM	#75 (permalink)
phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,668 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 974723	Get it down until the gas light has been on for a few minutes and that will be enough! __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph

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