Nissan 370Z Forum  

Upgraded engine mounts

Short and sweet. At what horsepower levels in this car do we need to start looking at upgraded engine mounts? Polyurethane or Aluminum? What is better and why?

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z Tech Area > Engine & Drivetrain > Forced Induction


Like Tree7Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-12-2014, 11:50 AM   #1 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
TopgunZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 2,651
Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT
Rep Power: 6834
TopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond repute
Default Upgraded engine mounts

Short and sweet.

At what horsepower levels in this car do we need to start looking at upgraded engine mounts?

Polyurethane or Aluminum? What is better and why?
__________________
ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM
TopgunZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2014, 12:55 PM   #2 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Oman.
Posts: 71
Drives: 08 infiniti G35 AT
Rep Power: 14
Glover997 is on a distinguished road
Default

If your oem mounting is good and stiff you don't need these , however Aluminum is usually for racing application where the car is not DD especially when you have these for tranny also, they're stiff and noisy with all clicking sound all round .
Glover997 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2014, 01:18 PM   #3 (permalink)
Premium Member Bitches
 
DEpointfive0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 14,824
Drives: a lot
Rep Power: 17151
DEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Get the Z1 urethane mounts, you won't have any negative side effects from my experience.
Go through Jon, and tell him Andrew the asshole sent you
gbrettin, karotZ and Aviator44 like this.
__________________
Do YOU want to know what/where I got my username from?
( Click to show/hide )
DEpointfive0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2014, 01:29 PM   #4 (permalink)
Track Member
 
karotZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: not found
Posts: 723
Drives: on empty tank of gas
Rep Power: 15
karotZ is just really nicekarotZ is just really nicekarotZ is just really nicekarotZ is just really nicekarotZ is just really nice
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 View Post
Get the Z1 urethane mounts, you won't have any negative side effects from my experience.
Go through Jon, and tell him Andrew the asshole sent you
Hahaha
__________________
VERTEX | SUIVAX | AMUSE | SSR | SPARCO | STILLEN | FAST INTENTIONS x HKS | HANKOOK | NARDI | NRG | EVO-R | ROBISPEC | SPC
karotZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2014, 01:58 PM   #5 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
theDreamer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Texas
Posts: 30,879
Drives: 370z
Rep Power: 4210
theDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I would not say there is a power level that you 'should' do it, but even watching the cars stock/bolt ons on dynos you can see some flex or engine movement.
I would say if you plan to do this, do engine, transmission, and rear diff mounts all at once.
Super Werty likes this.
__________________
theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN
theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY
Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram
theDreamer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2014, 05:25 PM   #6 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 3,668
Drives: 370
Rep Power: 974723
phunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond repute
Default

The stock mounts are pretty decent. I like having solid mounts because my turbos and what-not are very close to the chassis, and its nice to not having them wack the side firewalls during powershifts. Also it reduces pull on the intercooler couplers, etc.

I personally go solid metal with the VQ. Its a very smooth engine IMHO and they only really make a lot of annoying vibration when the starter is cranking. After that, I hardly notice they are there other than the reduced lag between throttle and drivetrain acceleration. Maybe people more sensitive to noise would have more complaints about it. But personally I dont really perceive much difference.

I dont go solid metal on the trans mount though, I tried that and it put the transmission noise over the top for me.
esfourteen and Super Werty like this.
__________________
Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website | Facebook | Instagram | YouTube
Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph
phunk is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2014, 06:10 PM   #7 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
gbrettin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Portage, MI
Posts: 2,284
Drives: Tricycle
Rep Power: 589151
gbrettin has a reputation beyond reputegbrettin has a reputation beyond reputegbrettin has a reputation beyond reputegbrettin has a reputation beyond reputegbrettin has a reputation beyond reputegbrettin has a reputation beyond reputegbrettin has a reputation beyond reputegbrettin has a reputation beyond reputegbrettin has a reputation beyond reputegbrettin has a reputation beyond reputegbrettin has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I have the Z1 urethane mounts and really like them. I tore my OEM mount due to some spirited driving. I'd think that the turbos torquing the OEM mounts would make them tear quickly.

They are pretty cheap... might as well do them if you are turboing.
gbrettin is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2014, 10:35 PM   #8 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
TopgunZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 2,651
Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT
Rep Power: 6834
TopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Are the urethane mounts just stronger or are they more rigid also?
__________________
ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM
TopgunZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2014, 11:04 PM   #9 (permalink)
Premium Member Bitches
 
DEpointfive0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 14,824
Drives: a lot
Rep Power: 17151
DEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TopgunZ View Post
Are the urethane mounts just stronger or are they more rigid also?
Both
Super Werty likes this.
__________________
Do YOU want to know what/where I got my username from?
( Click to show/hide )
DEpointfive0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2014, 03:50 AM   #10 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
roplusbee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Killeen, TX
Posts: 2,360
Drives: 2007 350Z NISMO
Rep Power: 23
roplusbee has a reputation beyond reputeroplusbee has a reputation beyond reputeroplusbee has a reputation beyond reputeroplusbee has a reputation beyond reputeroplusbee has a reputation beyond reputeroplusbee has a reputation beyond reputeroplusbee has a reputation beyond reputeroplusbee has a reputation beyond reputeroplusbee has a reputation beyond reputeroplusbee has a reputation beyond reputeroplusbee has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to roplusbee Send a message via Yahoo to roplusbee
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by phunk View Post
The stock mounts are pretty decent. I like having solid mounts because my turbos and what-not are very close to the chassis, and its nice to not having them wack the side firewalls during powershifts. Also it reduces pull on the intercooler couplers, etc.

I personally go solid metal with the VQ. Its a very smooth engine IMHO and they only really make a lot of annoying vibration when the starter is cranking. After that, I hardly notice they are there other than the reduced lag between throttle and drivetrain acceleration. Maybe people more sensitive to noise would have more complaints about it. But personally I dont really perceive much difference.

I dont go solid metal on the trans mount though, I tried that and it put the transmission noise over the top for me.
I have the solid motor mounts, but have not changed out my trans mount or diff mounts yet. I plan to go solid all the way, but I may go with urethane on the trans mount only to keep the chatter down.

I noticed a massive difference with the solid mounts installed. Response was more direct and precise. The only downside(s)..........increased vibration and chatter (starting from standstill).
__________________
2007 350Z NISMO #0618: Zerolift | UPREV | F.I. | Greddy | Competition Clutch | Injector Dynamics | Aeromotive | Pioneer | JL
roplusbee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2014, 04:10 AM   #11 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
G37sHKS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Dubai
Posts: 1,183
Drives: 09 G37S Coupe 7AT
Rep Power: 20
G37sHKS has a reputation beyond reputeG37sHKS has a reputation beyond reputeG37sHKS has a reputation beyond reputeG37sHKS has a reputation beyond reputeG37sHKS has a reputation beyond reputeG37sHKS has a reputation beyond reputeG37sHKS has a reputation beyond reputeG37sHKS has a reputation beyond reputeG37sHKS has a reputation beyond reputeG37sHKS has a reputation beyond reputeG37sHKS has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I have urethane Z1 for engine and transmission. I would do it again without a doubt
__________________
G37sHKS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2014, 04:13 AM   #12 (permalink)
Premium Member Bitches
 
DEpointfive0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 14,824
Drives: a lot
Rep Power: 17151
DEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

For the 7AT I wouldn't redo engine mounts. Not because of quality or anything, coming to the lights sucks... The whole car vibrates
__________________
Do YOU want to know what/where I got my username from?
( Click to show/hide )
DEpointfive0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2014, 05:50 AM   #13 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Oman.
Posts: 71
Drives: 08 infiniti G35 AT
Rep Power: 14
Glover997 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Glover997 View Post
If your oem mounting is good and stiff you don't need these , however Aluminum is usually for racing application where the car is not DD especially when you have these for tranny also, they're stiff and noisy with all clicking sound all round .
And also I'm curious to know if z1 mounts ( motor & tranny) work for 07+ HR Sedans too. z1 have them for z370/G37 coupes only, but can't seem to find some for HR sedans chassis.
Glover997 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2014, 07:41 AM   #14 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
jwick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Houston
Posts: 14,532
Drives: '10 G37 6MT
Rep Power: 2465056
jwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Glover997 View Post
And also I'm curious to know if z1 mounts ( motor & tranny) work for 07+ HR Sedans too. z1 have them for z370/G37 coupes only, but can't seem to find some for HR sedans chassis.
Call Jon at Z1 and talk to him. He's a really helpful dude.
__________________
'10 G37T 6MT Graphite/Graphite - BP - G37T Build

jwick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2014, 03:56 PM   #15 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Oman.
Posts: 71
Drives: 08 infiniti G35 AT
Rep Power: 14
Glover997 is on a distinguished road
Default

^ Positive .. They do fit
Glover997 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
DIY: Engine and Transmission mounts Joepro DIY Section (Do-It-Yourself) 18 03-26-2023 02:56 PM
Drop Engineering Engine Mounts KamiSpeed Engine & Drivetrain 119 03-11-2017 04:49 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:38 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2