For track you're absolutely right. But again that's just not what I'm into. For what i like a 450hp Z would get left in the dust, even with my tire setup. My quaiffe diff has complimented my power levels very well. Stable power to both wheels and i don't go sideways as easy anymore. 1st is useless 2nd is difficult but 3rd i can manage at WOT. I have ordered a solid bushing which should help with traction even more. With coils, quaiffe, bushing AND taller gears (3.55 was it?) I think these cars would hook a lot better.
Even with my mild setup, after quaiffe install was night and day difference.

I garauntee that if you got the same type of tires you have now in 19's on a factory width rim or maybe even lighter wheel and pulled some camber and raised the car to no more than an inch lower than stock you would have much better traction. But you would lose show appeal. The rear suspension has a camber curve the lower you go the faster it gains camber when the rear dips under acceleration, also a stretch on the tire tends to lower contact at the center which is the largest part of the contact patch. It also stresses the sidewalls making a highspeed blow out more likely. Do what you want it's up to you but just so you know it is much less safe and you are wasting a lot of your tires grip.

:confused: I'm running normal 245/19 street tries that are 10.5 inches wide. At 13 PSI you're applying 550 to 600whp.
A) You're either running slicks or very warm drag radials
B) Have VDC on
C) Roll throttling letting off before you spin

Either way @ 13 PSI 0 spin at 30 to 170 is great, but I was implying 0 to 50mph which is something total different. If you can do a 1.6 60ft 0 spinning then post a video and teach me the ways O great one. If you can't then your statement is total irravanlent no offensive.:tiphat:
If you're compaing drag its all about the 60ft. You can obtain faster times with a lower trap great 60ft v.s. bad 60 foot but high trap. Just means your HP is doing the work over the lack of driving.

Everyone here i'm sure is a great driver and im the last person to give advice. Just pointing out facts. At 0ft i'm spinning, not by much cause im peddleing or roll throttling but still spinning. Anyone that can 0 spin in our cars using normal street tires you're 60ft is poo or you're a awsome driver. :tup:

Personally, like a said before. 10 to 11ish PSI 480whp/450wtq is perfect for the street.

Fast Intentions TT 370Z *World Record 1/4 mile* - YouTube

Look at the way Terribleone broke 11.4 1/4 on stock block 550whp@12psi??(guessing)

He hooked just fine by rolling the throttle and feeling out the car, but I bet you he spun for the 1st 30ft(not by much but he did).

That's all i'm implying. Spinning is spinning no one can launch a car properly without a little bit or you're not at the car's protential. just my 2 cents.

if i remember correctly he wasn't the one driving his car for those runs.

i think it was jnaut driving?

but yes the launch and 60" time is everything in getting a good ET.

my little N/A Z only lost by .02 the one night to a viper based on him spinning tire on the launch when we all know that race should have been me seeing tailights fade in the distance lol

He must have been a really BAD driver :stirthepot:

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This run was done on 10PSI. Right around 530-550WHP.

InI think everyone has agreed that first spins all day as far as my comment was to the fact someone said if I was full throttle I would spin 1st through 3rd and I said that's not true....I never said anything about 1st I said u can hook in second...so I guess your quote to me is irrelevant no offense.

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OK, let me clearify. You can do a roll of 30mph in 2nd gear and reach 170mph with 0 spinning. Correct?

Cause all my comments we're about dead stop 60 ft.

From what you're telling me you can go full throttle at a 30mph roll with 550 to 600whp and have 0 issues with traction.

tbh at 8 psi G37 that wieghts 800 more pounds(me). I'm still blowing the wheels off in most of 2nd.

To answer my question with a question.

What tires are you running, rear end ratio, and suspension? No where i'm calling you a lier just like know how to improve my own traction.:hello:

1.yes
2.i was reply when someone said to me I would spin my tires 1st thru 3rd...I think this is a miss understanding between us..
3. I have 500 whp on base tune not sure 13psi.
4. Tire= whatever is stock on 2014 ray..I think it help there is around 3k miles
everything else was stock...I mite get in trouble but ill post a video of 2 pulls against a 500 whp cobalt. ..
now I have be coilovers with 12k front 10k rear and it's even better I think

I took the video down....

Oh Man

What's up. You it think it well get hit...I'll take it down if so...I'm just trying to show it gets traction. ...