Nissan 370Z Forum  

Forced Induction gains and 7AT

Originally Posted by One_Quick_Z I would think the 7AT could handle 450whp easily, But thats just me DAN Well, the difference between think and uh-oh is only about 15K...assuming a

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z Tech Area > Engine & Drivetrain > Forced Induction


Like Tree1Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-13-2009, 11:32 PM   #16 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Jenks, OK
Posts: 2,281
Drives: 370z Touring/Sport
Rep Power: 267
kannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by One_Quick_Z View Post
I would think the 7AT could handle 450whp easily, But thats just me



DAN
Well, the difference between think and uh-oh is only about 15K...assuming a new transmission and a FI system that you can't use without blowing another tranny
kannibul is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2009, 11:18 AM   #17 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
One_Quick_Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Seneca Il
Posts: 1,374
Drives: 10 Civic EX Sedan
Rep Power: 219
One_Quick_Z has a reputation beyond reputeOne_Quick_Z has a reputation beyond reputeOne_Quick_Z has a reputation beyond reputeOne_Quick_Z has a reputation beyond reputeOne_Quick_Z has a reputation beyond reputeOne_Quick_Z has a reputation beyond reputeOne_Quick_Z has a reputation beyond reputeOne_Quick_Z has a reputation beyond reputeOne_Quick_Z has a reputation beyond reputeOne_Quick_Z has a reputation beyond reputeOne_Quick_Z has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Im going based off of the old tranny and its power handling capabilities, also this is the trans out of the FX50 is it not?


DAN
__________________
-My BRZ with exhaust will decimate all if we overnight parts from Japan-

10 Civic EX Sedan- Current Daily
One_Quick_Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2009, 11:30 AM   #18 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
rednek01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Houston
Posts: 352
Drives: Mustang GT
Rep Power: 237
rednek01 has a reputation beyond reputerednek01 has a reputation beyond reputerednek01 has a reputation beyond reputerednek01 has a reputation beyond reputerednek01 has a reputation beyond reputerednek01 has a reputation beyond reputerednek01 has a reputation beyond reputerednek01 has a reputation beyond reputerednek01 has a reputation beyond reputerednek01 has a reputation beyond reputerednek01 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lug View Post
The 350Z's AT was only good to about 400 to 420 RWH before mods were needed. I'd hope that the new 7AT handles more power. Another problem with the 350 AT was that when you went FI, the slower shift speed of the tranny would allow the RPMs to jump and hit the rev limiter when shifting under full acceleration. The fix was a throttle body upgrade on the tranny and/or a software change to the rev limiter level.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lug View Post
Hopfully so. From what I've read, the full shift time has dropped about 500 milliseconds between the two trannys. That's an incredible improvement. I think the same 7AT is used in the FX45 (390 HP stock). If so, I'd imagine it's power handling has gone though the roof as well.
I am going to mostly agree with Lug I would bet that the trans can handle somewhere between 420-430 HP. Now the real question is how much torque can it handle. reason I say this is because most trans are rated by how much torque they can handle, the Z's don't put out an incredible amount of torque stock but adding F.I. will drastically increase the torque that the drive train has to handle therefore adding much more stress.

We can speculate all we want but until we start seeing high hp/tq or F.I. cars dropping trans and looking at what numbers they are killing them will we truly know the answer. Add to that driving style will have a lot to do with how well the drive train handles the power as well. if you are a street light racer every light and push your car regularly you may see a failure at a lower hp/tq level than someone who is a less aggressive driver.

So really who knows do some research as Lug has and we can add lets say 20-30% over engineering to what they are handling stock and that is probably a safe number to stay around for starters at least.
__________________
Project オレンジ 2009 (FUGLY) Grabber Orange Mustang GT // SLP loudmouth axle back // JLT intake // BamaChips Tunes // ...
TheDreamer's personal mechanic
rednek01 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2009, 01:36 PM   #19 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: a state of opression
Posts: 2
Drives: lurkermobile 2005
Rep Power: 16
lurker is on a distinguished road
Default

the factory engine torque is 270lbft but the rear wheel torque (as was measured by the fx50 dyno or a 370z dyno) would be less in a Z ~230 ish.... remember a stock engine torque rating for the fx50 is 369lbft.... or about 100lbft more at the engine then a Z.... Even if this translates to only 70lbft at rear wheels (as evident by the dyno) that is a substantial built in margin. Thats why I posted an actual dyno sheet of the rw torque rather then the official values, but even so the engineerd cussion would be above the fx50's value...380-390lbft at the engine would be a very conservative guess ie about 320rwtq... ok last post for a very long time.

EDIT: Interestingly that Greddy turbo kit looked to be about 330-340rwtq at about 450rwhp and 6.4psi.... so just dial back to 4.5 to 5 psi and you theoreticly should have a 400rwhp/310rwtq car. Still would be very very quick at 3200-3300lbs.

Last edited by lurker; 10-14-2009 at 05:51 PM.
lurker is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Forced Induction for Noobs... Slidefox Forced Induction 48 06-15-2013 01:32 AM
Induction parts + ECU reflash dyno results Phimosis Tuning 88 03-06-2010 04:26 AM
Best trans for forced induction madweazl Engine & Drivetrain 24 08-07-2009 05:20 PM
Fang Vents: Forced air DIY....> Modshack Intake/Exhaust 4 06-29-2009 11:49 AM
Most HP Gains of any Dual Cat-Back Yet!!! Minicobra1 The Lounge (Off Topic) 9 04-22-2009 04:48 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:00 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2