My 5k budget mid mount turbo build

Rid3_FaM0uS · 11-07-2014, 08:00 AM

yes I would say its around 650 man. 19 on 9:1 CR @ 93 oct is 650-660 iirc. youre probably pretty close there on 17 11:1 CR and 93

EDIT: define "scary"?

BBRSpeedWorks · 11-07-2014, 08:50 AM

More like scary fun. The reason I say scary is cuz when I blow up my talon up a piece on the block came into cab of the car and was stuck in the dash.

Rid3_FaM0uS · 11-07-2014, 10:09 AM

Right on! I'm just really not sure what to expect when the car is finished so I'm still kind of on the fence. On the other hand parts of an engine coming through your windshield at several miles per hour wouldn't really be what I would call "fun" so I could see the scary factor from that aspect.

BBRSpeedWorks · 11-07-2014, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Rid3_FaM0uS

Right on! I'm just really not sure what to expect when the car is finished so I'm still kind of on the fence. On the other hand parts of an engine coming through your windshield at several miles per hour wouldn't really be what I would call "fun" so I could see the scary factor from that aspect.

Ya man I checked ur build looks like it's going to be nasty love the block setup...by the way I'm from Ohio to...r u stilling running the gtm setup with BW turbo or r you complete custom?

TopgunZ · 11-07-2014, 10:17 AM

What fuel setup do you have on the car? Inectors? Stage return? pump?

It would take a LOT of fuel to be safe on 17lbs.

Were you running lean on your afr?

BBRSpeedWorks · 11-07-2014, 10:20 AM

Injectors 1000cc
pump 340
fuel return with 1:1 regulter
afr was between high 10 ' s low 11's

TopgunZ · 11-07-2014, 10:22 AM

Guess you had adequate going to it.

I think the scary part is also hearing that beastly turbo spool. When mine was in the 19lb range it was twice as loud as when it was at 9lbs. Loved it!

BBRSpeedWorks · 11-07-2014, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ

Guess you had adequate going to it.

I think the scary part is also hearing that beastly turbo spool. When mine was in the 19lb range it was twice as loud as when it was at 9lbs. Loved it!

Rid3_FaM0uS · 11-07-2014, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BBRSpeedWorks

Ya man I checked ur build looks like it's going to be nasty love the block setup...by the way I'm from Ohio to...r u stilling running the gtm setup with BW turbo or r you complete custom?

haha thanks man! tried my best to do something a little different. and nah I ditched the entire GTM kit. Me, personally, I don't want anything on my car that's designed by a company on the verge of going under. I just don't want the headaches later down the road when I need to source replacement pieces. I'm blessed with the new AAM kit now haha.

Mitco39 · 11-07-2014, 12:11 PM

Were you listening for knock through all this? Everyone knows as you increase boost you have to back off timing to keep the system happy. Increasing boost without touching timing will put you into knock very quickly. One good burst of knock and its done.

What fuel were you running during this?

Also what A/R are you running? Its possible your back pressure just skyrocketed as your increased your boost.

Interesting read though!

BBRSpeedWorks · 11-07-2014, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitco39

Were you listening for knock through all this? Everyone knows as you increase boost you have to back off timing to keep the system happy. Increasing boost without touching timing will put you into knock very quickly. One good burst of knock and its done.

What fuel were you running during this?

Also what A/R are you running? Its possible your back pressure just skyrocketed as your increased your boost.

Interesting read though!

1.yes 2.yes I pulled timing back to my extremely safe base map. Everything was on 93...everything was 11 afr. ..I don't think there is away to stop pre dentition with that boost level and compression. ..

Mitco39 · 11-07-2014, 12:32 PM

You were using knock headphones? Also I was asking about the A/R ratio of your turbo.

Also depending on the Uprev maps you have available to you (I dont have knock tables for whatever reason) as soon as you push into knock the ECU will actually add a **** ton of timing when it senses knock. If you were listening with knock headphones you can see this when the knock starts out and then for no reason it just gets very angry for no apparent reason.

BBRSpeedWorks · 11-07-2014, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitco39

You were using knock headphones? Also I was asking about the A/R ratio of your turbo.

Also depending on the Uprev maps you have available to you (I dont have knock tables for whatever reason) as soon as you push into knock the ECU will actually add a **** ton of timing when it senses knock. If you were listening with knock headphones you can see this when the knock starts out and then for no reason it just gets very angry for no apparent reason.

No headphones and I have the knock tables in my uprev which has timing pulled past my base map and you can tell when it switchs. Turbo spec are 6266 bb compressor 70a/r turbine 1.15a/r twin scroll

BBRSpeedWorks · 12-04-2014, 11:37 AM

will i'm done with the single turbo kit for now as i will jump stright into the twin's with the built motor. time to set it on the shelf. maybe do a large single later next year...not sure..

ChrisPerrera · 02-10-2018, 01:29 PM

Please reupload pictures into Google drive or another sure. I'd like to see the pictures please. Thank you.

11-07-2014, 08:00 AM	#301 (permalink)
Rid3_FaM0uS Track Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Wapakoneta, Ohio Posts: 506 Drives: 2011 BS Nismo 370z Rep Power: 44	yes I would say its around 650 man. 19 on 9:1 CR @ 93 oct is 650-660 iirc. youre probably pretty close there on 17 11:1 CR and 93 EDIT: define "scary"? __________________ Always under construction. . .

11-07-2014, 08:50 AM	#302 (permalink)
BBRSpeedWorks Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Ft. Stwart Posts: 366 Drives: 370z,350z,300z,talon Rep Power: 11	More like scary fun. The reason I say scary is cuz when I blow up my talon up a piece on the block came into cab of the car and was stuck in the dash. __________________ God'Z Gift.

11-07-2014, 10:09 AM	#303 (permalink)
Rid3_FaM0uS Track Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Wapakoneta, Ohio Posts: 506 Drives: 2011 BS Nismo 370z Rep Power: 44	Right on! I'm just really not sure what to expect when the car is finished so I'm still kind of on the fence. On the other hand parts of an engine coming through your windshield at several miles per hour wouldn't really be what I would call "fun" so I could see the scary factor from that aspect. __________________ Always under construction. . .

11-07-2014, 10:17 AM	#305 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6834	What fuel setup do you have on the car? Inectors? Stage return? pump? It would take a LOT of fuel to be safe on 17lbs. Were you running lean on your afr? __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM

11-07-2014, 10:20 AM	#306 (permalink)
BBRSpeedWorks Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Ft. Stwart Posts: 366 Drives: 370z,350z,300z,talon Rep Power: 11	Injectors 1000cc pump 340 fuel return with 1:1 regulter afr was between high 10 ' s low 11's __________________ God'Z Gift.

11-07-2014, 10:22 AM	#307 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6834	Guess you had adequate going to it. I think the scary part is also hearing that beastly turbo spool. When mine was in the 19lb range it was twice as loud as when it was at 9lbs. Loved it! TerribleONE, Rid3_FaM0uS and BBRSpeedWorks like this. __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM

11-07-2014, 12:11 PM	#310 (permalink)
Mitco39 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Edmonton Alberta Canada Posts: 2,089 Drives: 40th 370z Rep Power: 132	Were you listening for knock through all this? Everyone knows as you increase boost you have to back off timing to keep the system happy. Increasing boost without touching timing will put you into knock very quickly. One good burst of knock and its done. What fuel were you running during this? Also what A/R are you running? Its possible your back pressure just skyrocketed as your increased your boost. Interesting read though! __________________ 2007 Chevy Duramax - EFILive Tuned By Me 2010 40th W/ Nav - Boosted Performance - UpRev Tuned By Me The Mrs. Ride -2012 335XI N55 BMW - Cobb Tuned By Me, Built by her My Build --> http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...39s-build.html

11-07-2014, 12:32 PM	#312 (permalink)
Mitco39 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Edmonton Alberta Canada Posts: 2,089 Drives: 40th 370z Rep Power: 132	You were using knock headphones? Also I was asking about the A/R ratio of your turbo. Also depending on the Uprev maps you have available to you (I dont have knock tables for whatever reason) as soon as you push into knock the ECU will actually add a **** ton of timing when it senses knock. If you were listening with knock headphones you can see this when the knock starts out and then for no reason it just gets very angry for no apparent reason. TerribleONE likes this. __________________ 2007 Chevy Duramax - EFILive Tuned By Me 2010 40th W/ Nav - Boosted Performance - UpRev Tuned By Me The Mrs. Ride -2012 335XI N55 BMW - Cobb Tuned By Me, Built by her My Build --> http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...39s-build.html

12-04-2014, 11:37 AM	#314 (permalink)
BBRSpeedWorks Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Ft. Stwart Posts: 366 Drives: 370z,350z,300z,talon Rep Power: 11	will i'm done with the single turbo kit for now as i will jump stright into the twin's with the built motor. time to set it on the shelf. maybe do a large single later next year...not sure.. __________________ God'Z Gift.

02-10-2018, 01:29 PM	#315 (permalink)
ChrisPerrera Base Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Maryland Posts: 6 Drives: 10' G37s White 7AT Rep Power: 8	Please reupload pictures into Google drive or another sure. I'd like to see the pictures please. Thank you.

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