GTM TWIN TURBO install at HP Logic

370zdub

Its a turbo diesel now, jk

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westpak

not sure, it was one of the tuning runs so it could have been an overly rich spot or sudden timing decrease, but my guess is that it could have been the end of the run or rev limiter since the smoke didn't come out from under the car meaning that since it has open dumps the wastegates were probably closed.

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jmahad01

Great install. Makes my old DSM dino runs look like a toy...

kannibul

Given the video, it appears the car is still pulling pretty hard and continues to after the smoke puff, so it shouldn't be the rev-limiter.

Either way...man, I want to find out BAD if the 7AT can hang with it...lol.

Then it'd only be a matter of rounding up the money - lol.

Nixlimited

What is the puff of smoke before the rev limiter kicks in?

zman1910

Unburnt fuel I'm guessing since these vehicles will be tuned to run a tad on the rich side.

westpak

yeap as simple a that

I guess some have never seen a turbo car, an aftermarket one at that, on a dyno and specially one that has no cats in it, just straight pipe all the way so nothing to catch those fumes

you should see mine LOL

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kannibul

You're right, I've not seen one.

I was just surprised that it happens like that - I mean, through a lot of RPM range, then all of a sudden two puffs of smoke...as if it's building up in the exhaust then gets blasted out....but I know that shouldn't be true.

HP Logic

...with F/I cars...typically they will run best/safest with an Air/fuel ratio of about 11.5 : 1...this is significantly richer than a naturally aspirated car which will like 12.5 : 1 or leaner....that being said...the unburnt portion of the combustion process can sometimes create black smoke...most cars with open wategates will expell the overly rich discharge through the wategate dumps before it can reach the tailpipes....but sometimes the wastegates will adjust momentarily to control boost and you get a diversion to the rear exhaust section......

...in short: The black smoke is normal...and depending on the cars plumbing/turbo setup you will see it intermitently....

-Jack

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ssqpolo

i wanna see flames! out of the exhaust that is

LiquidZ

Any feedback regarding how the turbos have impacted oil temperatures?

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westpak

haven't really made a point of checking but we did add the Stillen oil cooler, I know on the dyno they were not an issue.

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terrycs

It really depends on how hard you drive it. If the oil temp creeps up, it will be due to the engine and not the turbos. If the motor is not in boost, oil temps stay down.

I have an HR motor and on my daily commute, the temp reading on my CAMP2 hits around 230 deg F in Southern CA. The commute speeds range from stop and go to "pretty fast"

The oil feed restrictor to the turbos are VERY small (thousandths of an inch). The oil feed is meant to lubricate the bearings in the turbo. Cooling for the turbos are taken care of by the engine coolant. FWIW, my coolant temps run between 180 and 200 degrees F.

LiquidZ

Thank you Terry. Just the kind of response I was looking for. So really, the direct impact on the oil temperature from the turbos is minimal because a very small portion of motor oil is in contact with the bearings.

Do I have that right?

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westpak

correct, terry's explanation was pretty good, the amount of oil is small when compared to the oil capacity of the engine.

cooler is always a good idea specially when considering the temps down here and also that you will probably be driving the car harder and also the engine reving a lot faster while in boost than when NA

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