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I had a 2009 G37 for a number of years. It was then that I first became interested in GTM's big announcement, that they were working on a CARB certified

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I had a 2009 G37 for a number of years. It was then that I first became interested in GTM's big announcement, that they were working on a CARB certified supercharger kit. I sold that car in 2011 before GTM could deliver the kit. In June 2012, I was back with a new 370z and with excitement, searched for updates on the kit.. Still not out.

Over the years, there has been many inconsistencies and head scratchers in their reasoning for the delay. They supposedly went to get tested and the car didn't have enough miles on it. Then the problem was the retest costs versus the opportunity. Then the problem was finding a test car with proper miles and they wanted an M37 to get certified on - not a very popular car. Then the updates just went dark - they were supposedly working on it, but never could provide updates. Throw in a bold announcement that based on their experience with the supercharger kit, they were going to try to get a turbo kit certified. That of course went nowhere..

Over the years, GTM supporters got mad when I asked for updates and pushed them to live up to their commitments. My motives were questioned by GTM and others, like I was some plant from a competitor. As someone who understands business, I often stated what I felt was the real reason this was never completed; that people in California were still buying the kits based on the vaporware promise of eventual CARB certification. GTM felt they weren't missing many sales and it wasn't worth the investment to finish this. If they had been honest about that, there would have been no problem. As people now know, that level of honesty didn't fit into the "marketing machine" that was GTM.

Anyway, as I complete the sale of my 370z to Carmax today, GTM's unfulfilled promise has now outlasted another car for me. I feel bad for the members still caught up in the group buy with their money on the line, but I'm not shedding a tear at the demise of GTM.
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from what i understand, their customer service is almost non existent any more. Also, the MHI TT group buy that started a year and a half ago completely stalled out, which sucks for the people that put deposits or paid in full on a kit they havent received
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from what i understand, their customer service is almost non existent any more. Also, the MHI TT group buy that started a year and a half ago completely stalled out, which sucks for the people that put deposits or paid in full on a kit they havent received
Sam died and zombie Sam isn't as skilled in business.
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from what i understand, their customer service is almost non existent any more. Also, the MHI TT group buy that started a year and a half ago completely stalled out, which sucks for the people that put deposits or paid in full on a kit they havent received
I knew all that but op was making it seem like they closed so thought I missed something.
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Good luck. I steered away from therm back in 2009-2010 when I was looking for a forced induction solution. I talked to Sam quite a few times and never felt like I was getting good information/answers, but that is only my opinion. I made a statement about not giving GTM any of my money ever and got ridiculed for days on end.

My Greddy manifolds have not cracked and my journal bearing turbos w/o water cooled cartridges (20G-10CM2) are still running strong. The only issue I have had with my build is that I am on my 3rd CSF radiator. And they just released a revised one (FML).........
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The only issue I have had with my build is that I am on my 3rd CSF radiator. And they just released a revised one (FML).........[/QUOTE]


Dang Man You Too? i am on my 3rd CSF radiator as well,yeah they replaced the first 2 two..but what about $300+ in mechanics fee's +time...i picked CSF cause they had good reviews..Hopefully their newest ish is better..

And i think GTM's customer service is fine..not AMAZING..BuT not horrible..definitely Acceptable and sometimes quite well...i've been in contact with him as i am preparing to have them Built me a 4.2L Stroker Longblock,and then i might ship my car out to them to have it installed as well.He's treated me fairly,prepared my quote and for the most part answered all my questions..(an i ask alot) ...So yeah Hopefully G.T.M is doing well and Continues to do So.. as im fixing to spend almost 20grand with them, I'd Hope So..lol
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Dang Man You Too? i am on my 3rd CSF radiator as well,yeah they replaced the first 2 two..but what about $300+ in mechanics fee's +time...i picked CSF cause they had good reviews..Hopefully their newest ish is better..

And i think GTM's customer service is fine..not AMAZING..BuT not horrible..definitely Acceptable and sometimes quite well...i've been in contact with him as i am preparing to have them Built me a 4.2L Stroker Longblock,and then i might ship my car out to them to have it installed as well.He's treated me fairly,prepared my quote and for the most part answered all my questions..(an i ask alot) ...So yeah Hopefully G.T.M is doing well and Continues to do So.. as im fixing to spend almost 20grand with them, I'd Hope So..lol
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And i think GTM's customer service is fine..not AMAZING..BuT not horrible..definitely Acceptable and sometimes quite well...i've been in contact with him as i am preparing to have them Built me a 4.2L Stroker Longblock,and then i might ship my car out to them to have it installed as well.He's treated me fairly,prepared my quote and for the most part answered all my questions..(an i ask alot) ...So yeah Hopefully G.T.M is doing well and Continues to do So.. as im fixing to spend almost 20grand with them, I'd Hope So..lol
Mind blowing that you'd do that. There is more than one engine builder in the U.S. I'd rather stick needles in my díck that give him 20k
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Look, unless I made $500k a year, 20k is a lot of money to gamble on someone that can't keep his shít together and has already filed for bankruptcy.

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