Reflections on GTM over the years

Originally Posted by Dcocci

Working to make things right says NOTHING until things are actually right. I'm sure they're working on making their turbo kits right too, you know? Just my .02

Originally Posted by bullitt5897

Ok first of all I had and still do the ability to pull my car at any time. I however, choose to allow them to finish the car.

Sugar coating lol don't make me laugh...

I read Mike's responses and even spent time with him last Saturday. So yeah I know what and why he said it. He confirms the bad decision dealings that Sam had made... I confirmed that as well. I chose not to go into details cause it had already been posted. No one and I repeat myself no one is downplaying or mitigating that bad business decisions were made and that customers paid the brunt force of the mistakes made. This is the true tragedy of what has happened. I just choose not to go witch hunting as the moderators have already stopped the bleeding in our community. Sam will now have to work his way into the trust fold here.

Yeah I am one of the original OG's and no I am not sugar coating anything. What else can be said about the issue but to regurgitate what others already have?

I simply came in here to give an update and to inform those with projects and money owed that GTM was working to rectify the issues. But hey if you want to consider that defending a company then hell I couldn't convince you that snow is white...

With that said I am done. I gave my update... GTM is working to make things right which says a good bit considering the amount of work and owed money ahead of them. Ill is a prime example of them trying to get things finished and corrected but hey I'm just cheerleading over here... Sarcasm...

Originally Posted by F.I. Inc.

Yes, they are Tony approved! Frank, when I get around to it, I may put your pipes into production. We will call them, "The FP" option.
-Tony

Originally Posted by JARblue

Thank you bullitt for some additional perspective. You're being crucified unnecessarily by people who seem to think that GTM has filed for bankruptcy, shut down the shop, and disappeared. Obviously, GTM is still working on customer's cars. Good luck getting your build finished up.

To those with flaming pitchforks already in hand, I do not blame you for wanting to crucify GTM. But FFS, there's no reason to attack a fellow forum member who is several years deep into his GTM build. I suspect if bullitt was looking to start his build in the last 6 months, his posts would be much different. I don't quite see how you guys think he was defending GTM - he was just stating his observations of the shop in its current state. I don't think anyone is reading through pages of this thread, and then getting to bullitt's post and thinking to themselves, wow GTM sounds like a great choice for my build

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Although, the fact they are currently working on customer cars doesn't mean they haven't began the bankruptcy process.

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Although, the fact they are currently working on customer cars doesn't mean they haven't began the bankruptcy process.

Originally Posted by bullitt5897

Chuck,

They have not started any bankruptcy process... Are they tight yes... Does it look like they will fold? No...

Originally Posted by JARblue

The document posted in this thread was a bankruptcy for filing of a different named company. Not sure if GTM was a dba or the bankruptcy filing was for a subsidiary or completely separate company. You're absolutely right, but I think we just don't have enough information to make an assumption on whether the GTM shop is going to remain open or shut down due to bankruptcy.

Originally Posted by JARblue

Thank you bullitt for some additional perspective. You're being crucified unnecessarily by people who seem to think that GTM has filed for bankruptcy, shut down the shop, and disappeared. Obviously, GTM is still working on customer's cars. Good luck getting your build finished up.

To those with flaming pitchforks already in hand, I do not blame you for wanting to crucify GTM. But FFS, there's no reason to attack a fellow forum member who is several years deep into his GTM build. I suspect if bullitt was looking to start his build in the last 6 months, his posts would be much different. I don't quite see how you guys think he was defending GTM - he was just stating his observations of the shop in its current state. I don't think anyone is reading through pages of this thread, and then getting to bullitt's post and thinking to themselves, wow GTM sounds like a great choice for my build

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Yeah, there's some funky ownership issues going on, but someone related to this debacle began filing bankruptcy. Bullitt, take anything Sam says about a filing with a grain of salt. He's not above looking someone right in the eyes and lying to them.

Originally Posted by Cell

Lets assume that everything is fine with GTM. Do you really want to do business with a company with the reputation it has now? The reputation does not just come out of thin air. I would be highly stressed and pissed if I knew my turbo kit was going to take more than a year to get to me with no end date in site. People are here mostly to warn others of what has happened. Old habits do die hard and GTM has proven it in the old 350z community and here.

More power to you if you want to wait it out. In the end, it is your money and not mine.



Sam has lied before and if anyone believes anything he says now then it is your lost.

Originally Posted by Cell

Lets assume that everything is fine with GTM. Do you really want to do business with a company with the reputation it has now? The reputation does not just come out of thin air. I would be highly stressed and pissed if I knew my turbo kit was going to take more than a year to get to me with no end date in site. People are here mostly to warn others of what has happened. Old habits do die hard and GTM has proven it in the old 350z community and here.

More power to you if you want to wait it out. In the end, it is your money and not mine.



Sam has lied before and if anyone believes anything he says now then it is your lost.

Originally Posted by bullitt5897

Call me names all you want... I do not give a flying ****... The sad thing is the judgement you place will never go away even if things were fixed... Once a hater always a hater. Most of the people hurt by the GB haven't even posted up... Several had gotten refunds already and they haven't posted up... Cars have been finished and others pulled from the shop yet not all of them have posted up...

So yes call me a denier... I know more about what's going on then you. I have seen proof of what they are trying to do in person... So grab your hater cap and continue on hating cause all you are doing is making it worse for the victims... Ill posted up his problem a few weeks ago and guess what he now is on schedule to receive a finished car but hey that's not proof that GTM is trying to rectify the situation nope not at all... It is up to the buyers to choose to post and most don't...

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