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Originally Posted by Juztin Did you ask Sam what the heck happened that they could not get my waste-gate relocation kit ordered through CZP done in 5 months? It's just

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Old 10-12-2014, 06:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Did you ask Sam what the heck happened that they could not get my waste-gate relocation kit ordered through CZP done in 5 months?

It's just 2 simple Tial waste-gates, some down pipes and misc piping for the recirculation option. The fact they can't get something that simple together is further telling of the fact they can't get any TT kits shipped out the door.

Next time you run a PR mission to Rancho Cucamonga, ask Sam that for me will ya? KTHNXBYE!
First of all not a PR mission. Secondly, the attitude is not needed. I went to check on my car out of legitimate concern for the time it was taking to complete. That and I had a plethora of parts that needed to come home like a ~$800 dry carbon intake duct... So I went to see the progress, check in the condition of my car, pick up my stuff, talk to sam one on one and it soo happened to be a prime time to ask him questions about what is really going on.

I don't know about your order or the mishap that happened there. However, if you want to confront me feel free to do it in PM. I hold myself to a high stadard and what I put out is the truth. If you don't like it so be it... Go play elsewhere. I harbor no bad feelings about what has been posted or those in this thread but... If another person decides to insinuate that I am on a PR mission or that I am lying I have no problem calling AK or Frost or even Trips on the phone and letting them deal with you.

I am a very nice person who was thinking of others when I posted... If you people do not want insight and want your little witch hunt by all means have one on your own. This forum can quickly turn into my350 they way you guys are starting to act... And everyone hates my350!
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...This forum can quickly turn into my350 they way you guys are starting to act... And everyone hates my350!
It's a great source of knowledge and foresight !

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First of all not a PR mission. Secondly, the attitude is not needed. I went to check on my car out of legitimate concern for the time it was taking to complete. That and I had a plethora of parts that needed to come home like a ~$800 dry carbon intake duct... So I went to see the progress, check in the condition of my car, pick up my stuff, talk to sam one on one and it soo happened to be a prime time to ask him questions about what is really going on.

I don't know about your order or the mishap that happened there. However, if you want to confront me feel free to do it in PM. I hold myself to a high stadard and what I put out is the truth. If you don't like it so be it... Go play elsewhere. I harbor no bad feelings about what has been posted or those in this thread but... If another person decides to insinuate that I am on a PR mission or that I am lying I have no problem calling AK or Frost or even Trips on the phone and letting them deal with you.

I am a very nice person who was thinking of others when I posted... If you people do not want insight and want your little witch hunt by all means have one on your own. This forum can quickly turn into my350 they way you guys are starting to act... And everyone hates my350!
I don't think you are lying or their PR machine, I just think you are blind. After everything that has happened, you still put too much trust in the words of a real liar.
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When you were there did he mention my 4.2 stroker motor with the stage 3 heads ? I spoke to him thursday and he says that he making progress on it.


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When you were there did he mention my 4.2 stroker motor with the stage 3 heads ? I spoke to him thursday and he says that he making progress on it.


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Yes your motor is being worked on. I saw they were making progress on it but I don't know how far along they were.

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Once a crook always a crook. I hope he does get shut down after the things he put people through. IMO, theres nothing he could possibly do to ever earn my business again. Sounds like he filled your ears with a ton of bs I'm sure bullitt5897...
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To those that think I am cheerleading... I am not. Sam and I have a complex relationship and if you ask him I am a pain in the a$$! However, as a former business owner I know the right questions to ask and when to call bs. This trip was solely about my car and my project. I asked and inquired and dug into these items because it means something to the community... Does it benefit me to come forward? NO! Actually it does the opposite! Sam holds his cards close to his chest. I have learned how to work with Sam and how to get the information I needed.

So to recap I was not fed b.s. I pulled information from Sam as well as other sources to validate. I also was physically in the building and walking through the operations. This is something about 70+% of you cannot claim...

so yes take what I say with a grain of salt but also know I have dealt with Sam more than probably half of the members of the forums combined... No offense taken here by me and I would be just as skeptical as many of you are. But remember I am an OG here and I have always been very straight with people and members...
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To those that think I am cheerleading... I am not. Sam and I have a complex relationship and if you ask him I am a pain in the a$$! However, as a former business owner I know the right questions to ask and when to call bs. This trip was solely about my car and my project. I asked and inquired and dug into these items because it means something to the community... Does it benefit me to come forward? NO! Actually it does the opposite! Sam holds his cards close to his chest. I have learned how to work with Sam and how to get the information I needed.

So to recap I was not fed b.s. I pulled information from Sam as well as other sources to validate. I also was physically in the building and walking through the operations. This is something about 70+% of you cannot claim...

so yes take what I say with a grain of salt but also know I have dealt with Sam more than probably half of the members of the forums combined... No offense taken here by me and I would be just as skeptical as many of you are. But remember I am an OG here and I have always been very straight with people and members...
To recap...

You think the consumer should have to stay on a business's *** in order to get the product they pay for? If someone isn't a pain in the *** to Sam it doesn't seem to get done, and even if they are it doesn't seem to get done. We aren't talking a couple dollars here, this dude has literally screwed people out of thousands of dollars. This is not "business" GTM is not a BUSINESS. They're crooks, because I've never met a ******* business model that was take people's money and not deliver products. That ***** called theift. I really don't understand after all the threads between plenty of forums how someone with a good conscious could ever defend GTM or try to rectify the situation. It boggles my mind. The only way someone could come in here and justify these business ethics is if they're themselves just as shady as a person.

Had this been the cowboy and Indian days or any day where men where still held accountable for their words. Sam would have either his hands cutoff by now or hung infront of the whole town to show you that it's not okay to **** people over. Sadly, we have turned into the times where ******** can jack people out of money and some douchebags will come to the internet and justify his ethics.

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To recap...

You think the consumer should have to stay on a business's *** in order to get the product they pay for? If someone isn't a pain in the *** to Sam it doesn't seem to get done, and even if they are it doesn't seem to get done. We aren't talking a couple dollars here, this dude has literally screwed people out of thousands of dollars. This is not "business" GTM is not a BUSINESS. They're crooks, because I've never met a ******* business model that was take people's money and not deliver products. That ***** called theift. I really don't understand after all the threads between plenty of forums how someone with a good conscious could ever defend GTM or try to rectify the situation. It boggles my mind. The only way someone could come in here and justify these business ethics is if they're themselves just as shady as a person.

Had this been the cowboy and Indian days or any day where men where still held accountable for their words. Sam would have either his hands cutoff by now or hung infront of the whole town to show you that it's not okay to **** people over. Sadly, we have turned into the times where ******** can jack people out of money and some douchebags will come to the internet and justify his ethics.

/rant.

Please point out where I have come out to defend what was done by Sam... I did not come in here to defend GTM... I have expressed my issues with Sam and the business practices that have transpired. I simply came here to give the community updates that they are still working on items and trying to rectify the issues they have created. That is all I came here to do.
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Just to throw some more information out there, I am finally receiving the shipment of my car tomorrow night at 6pm. I called Sam multiple times a day and he was giving accurate updates of the progress whenever I asked him. Took a bit longer then expected, but he claims there was a car there that kept having issues and small issue after issue slowed my build down. Once my build was finally ready to be dynod, my oil pressure was a little different then what they are used to seeing, they did a bunch of tests and verified that it wouldn't be an issue. Like I said, small little problems with the other car the tech was working in and small problems with my car ultimately slowed it all down. I can see similar situations happening and thus slow and big the entire shop down.

I finally received my dyno sheet and set up for shipping, which took awhile because of where I am located and didn't want to pay for a closed single trailer.

It took awhile, but It all worked out and it was completed as I was told it would be, just not when I expected.

I was the only MB 370z they had in the shop, did you by chance see it bullit? Was my baby girl looking good?
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Did he take delivery of the car? There were several cars in the shop including a g37... And it did have a kit on it...
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Did he take delivery of the car? There were several cars in the shop including a g37... And it did have a kit on it...
No idea, just stating what I read from his post. My issue is that I don't know anyone who would just shoulder a 20k loss...
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No idea, just stating what I read from his post. My issue is that I don't know anyone who would just shoulder a 20k loss...
If that is the case it's a whole different story...
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No idea, just stating what I read from his post. My issue is that I don't know anyone who would just shoulder a 20k loss...
I honestly don't like to think or talk about it. I guess I was just waiting till everyone else spoke about how they've gotten screwed.
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