I'll be honest, I've had terrible communication with Sam in the past year. I was one of the first on these forums with the SC kit from them and for the most part it was a very professional transaction. Other than some test parts that later got swapped out I'm happy with the power. I never did get to finish my video's with how pleased I was with the kit.

Then real life happen. I've been in and out of the country for two years, had a son, and was probably equally as hard to get in contact with as Sam is. However, I've been trying to throw money at him for the last 6 months or so to get some parts and I just cant seem to get him to want to take it???

Communication has always been either slow or rushed since the beginning. You get the impression he just has way to much on his plate. As a business owner, I fully understand having trust issues and having those feelings of having to do it yourself, but ****, hire a quality enthusiast that can talk the talk and take care of the phones and/or pass it off to a dedicated sales person so they push parts out the door, ffs.

That's my little opinion. I really like the guy, and from the get-go they pushed our engines further than any other tuner on these forums for a while. Their contribution and know-how has always been great. They just need extreme customer service to finish it off.

There were some delays in the build as it me some time to get him the June cams shafts, and I went with stage 3 heads as well.
AS for Sam not taking your money for some future work. He now has a different outlook on how he does future business. He does not want to get into another mess like he did with the turbo group buy.
Things are going to change at GTM. every day he is working hard to correct the problems with the group buy.
He still has a long way to go
Am I happy that my engine and the stage 3 SC upgrades are taking so long . No I am not, but it will be worth the wait if it makes over 600 to 625 rwhp. Should put my car into the high 10 second bracket in the 1/4 mile.

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Why didn't you go with a turbo setup? You could have made an insane amount of power and had a 9 second car...

I just tried to call all three of their listed numbers (2 on Yelp, one on their site) and all of them were dead ends. For those who have been successful in contacting them how in the world are you doing it?

It remains factual that none of the most serious Z-cars to traverse pavement ever relied on them for anything at all.

Now with them in deep hibernation, everything that some of you thought only happened because of them, well... it will keep on happening... and eventually the rest will notice how entirely unnecessary they were the entire time. Its like a bad break-up... not everyone is ready to let go or believe it's happened.

BP and FI clotheslined them with turbo kits... All thats left now to sweep GTM under the rug is a decent SC kit and a bunch of refunds.

My sympathy to those of you care, or those of you they owe money to.

Wow took 2 weeks to build my alpha 9 1000hp engine and 900trq transmission all while fixing engine components from a blown motor that ate half the engine bay :roflpuke2:

We'll I was just giving the longest build lol but you made my point. To build a GT-R at 1000+ when so much more goes into the build some have stroker engines too. No way anybody can justify a shop taking over a year to do a engine.

Simple...
You call (909) 481-4300 and then you wait for an answer. I get an answer and talk to an employee every time. Sam also except the rare occasion, then he calls me back.

Well except for the 5 or so odd years that they were the only company really making a kit for for our cars, well actually two kits, and built motors before the parts were readily available. yeah if you don't count that.

Those 5 years never happened. They have never been the only one making kits, they were just the only one bombarding the forums, and putting their name on everything anyone did. My Z has been twin turbo for a very long time, never have and never would use a single GTM part.

K1 rods (which are what GTM relabels as their own) have been available for a long time. Piston manufacturers always have and always will make you whatever you want within a couple weeks. GTM doesnt make any of those components... from since ever you thought GTM did, they were already available elsewhere.

So ya, I dont count any of that, you are just a victim of the grand illusion. Most "GTM" parts can be purchased straight from their true manufacturer.

it blows my mind that threads like this against a "sponsor" stay open foooorrrrrrreeeeevvvveeeerrrrr.......

but a light street racing one got shut down in under 1 hour.

:bowrofl:

IBTL - in a year :tup:

these are fun to read though :yum:

I understand the parts are made by other companies, but consider gtm were the ones to send the rod info to k1 and pay to have the initial batch designed and made, they kind of made it happen, now that other companies have contacted k1 and gotten the part number they are available, the arias pistons were initially developed for gtm and what where the other options for kits? Greddy and stillen? One cant make 500hp unless you redesign half the kit and the other is 9 fuckin grand for 18g's and piping.

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Anyone can send a stock connecting rod (maybe $40?) to a manufacturer and have a set of rods made. Nobody has to have done it first. When you are ready, you just call them, and they just make it on the spot, and all is well. This is the way it is for many builds too, because lots of builders want custom specs. They dont have to wait for GTM to have ordered a batch first. There was never a day on earth that you could only get a VHR piston or connecting rod from GTM. That never happened.

The Greddy kit, said and done, didnt cost any more than the GTM kits of the time. The Greddy has gone up as the exchange got worse and because they didnt push it on the forums it wasnt popular. But it was there.

Aside from all that, pricing doesnt change the fact that it did, indeed, exist. Actually fit better too, and makes more power at lower boost. BTW they are 20g turbos not 18g.

You can tell who are the GTM :nutswinger: by reading these replies lol