Nissan 370Z Forum  

Stillen Results...

Hey everyone, We completed the install on our 370z using the Stillen Supercharger kit and 9lb pulley. The car produced 475hp at the flywheel and 340 ftlb torque. When we

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z Tech Area > Engine & Drivetrain > Forced Induction


Like Tree4Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-05-2014, 03:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Glasgow, UK
Posts: 43
Drives: 370z
Rep Power: 11
ART_Auto is on a distinguished road
Default Stillen Results...

Hey everyone,

We completed the install on our 370z using the Stillen Supercharger kit and 9lb pulley.

The car produced 475hp at the flywheel and 340 ftlb torque.

When we went to tune the car on Tuesday we had issues for a long time trying to balance the voltages at idle and just above idles and when coming off throttle.

We eventually balanced the MAF's by rerouting the pipe work down beside the charge cooler pump in the driver side/left side of the front bumper.

Once we got up and running we found the car to only be producing 7.5psi.

Our setup is as follows:

Stillen SC kit
25 row oil cooler
9lb pulley
MXP Exhaust
Decat/Test Pipes
Custom Tune from TDI North

My theory on the 7.5 psi is the decat/test pipes creating no back pressure. Would anyone tend to agree?

I have CSV file from logs from the day after doing a few pulls but i cant seem to attach it here?

Can anyone chime in and let me know what they think? I would have expected the car to do well over 500hp at the flywheel.

Cheers
ART_Auto is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2014, 03:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
theDreamer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Texas
Posts: 30,879
Drives: 370z
Rep Power: 4210
theDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Just out of curiosity where are you reading boost from?
The TP should not really cause an issue, most guys run the same setup without boost loss. My first guess would be a leak somewhere, did you ever see the car hitting 9PSI prior to re-routing the pipes?
__________________
theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN
theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY
Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram
theDreamer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2014, 03:42 PM   #3 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Glasgow, UK
Posts: 43
Drives: 370z
Rep Power: 11
ART_Auto is on a distinguished road
Default

No the car never hit 9psi at all.

We are measuring boost directly off the inlet manifold.

Would you suggest a smoke test?
ART_Auto is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2014, 03:45 PM   #4 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
theDreamer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Texas
Posts: 30,879
Drives: 370z
Rep Power: 4210
theDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I would do a leak test to start, my only other thought I know this was with the rotrex units (GTM kit) but not sure on the vortech units. Need to run the SC for so many "miles" or time to break it in and get it spinning fully.
__________________
theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN
theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY
Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram
theDreamer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2014, 03:55 PM   #5 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Glasgow, UK
Posts: 43
Drives: 370z
Rep Power: 11
ART_Auto is on a distinguished road
Default

I'll perform a leak test tomorrow to see if there is a leak anywhere in the system. I know the charger needs the oil dumped at 1000 miles after the break in point.

Any other ideas?
ART_Auto is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2014, 04:33 PM   #6 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
TopgunZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 2,651
Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT
Rep Power: 6834
TopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I am unfamiliar with the UK. At what elevation are you guys at? Elevation will affect both power and max boost.
__________________
ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM
TopgunZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2014, 04:46 PM   #7 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Glasgow, UK
Posts: 43
Drives: 370z
Rep Power: 11
ART_Auto is on a distinguished road
Default

Elevation at mapping was 13m from sea level.

Fuel used was Shell V-Power Nitro 99 ron (equivalent to your 93)

Any help is appreciated.
ART_Auto is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2014, 05:01 PM   #8 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Jordo!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: nirvana
Posts: 6,394
Drives: 2023 NATM
Rep Power: 418
Jordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ART_Auto View Post
Hey everyone,

We completed the install on our 370z using the Stillen Supercharger kit and 9lb pulley.

The car produced 475hp at the flywheel and 340 ftlb torque.

When we went to tune the car on Tuesday we had issues for a long time trying to balance the voltages at idle and just above idles and when coming off throttle.

We eventually balanced the MAF's by rerouting the pipe work down beside the charge cooler pump in the driver side/left side of the front bumper.

Once we got up and running we found the car to only be producing 7.5psi.

Our setup is as follows:

Stillen SC kit
25 row oil cooler
9lb pulley
MXP Exhaust
Decat/Test Pipes
Custom Tune from TDI North

My theory on the 7.5 psi is the decat/test pipes creating no back pressure. Would anyone tend to agree?

I have CSV file from logs from the day after doing a few pulls but i cant seem to attach it here?

Can anyone chime in and let me know what they think? I would have expected the car to do well over 500hp at the flywheel.

Cheers
Boost can be thought of as resistance to airflow, so yes, you might lose boost, but should not lose power, with a freer flowing set up. Are you sure you are down on power or just boost pressure?
__________________
Enjoy it. Destroy it.
Jordo! is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2014, 05:10 PM   #9 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
JWillis72's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Fort Myers FL
Posts: 2,002
Drives: 2009 370Z yellow 7AT
Rep Power: 45
JWillis72 has a reputation beyond reputeJWillis72 has a reputation beyond reputeJWillis72 has a reputation beyond reputeJWillis72 has a reputation beyond reputeJWillis72 has a reputation beyond reputeJWillis72 has a reputation beyond reputeJWillis72 has a reputation beyond reputeJWillis72 has a reputation beyond reputeJWillis72 has a reputation beyond reputeJWillis72 has a reputation beyond reputeJWillis72 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

How are you testing it at the flywheel?
JWillis72 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2014, 05:18 PM   #10 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Infidel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 457
Drives: 2013 GM 6MT
Rep Power: 14
Infidel has a brilliant futureInfidel has a brilliant futureInfidel has a brilliant futureInfidel has a brilliant futureInfidel has a brilliant futureInfidel has a brilliant futureInfidel has a brilliant futureInfidel has a brilliant futureInfidel has a brilliant futureInfidel has a brilliant futureInfidel has a brilliant future
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ART_Auto View Post
No the car never hit 9psi at all.
We are measuring boost directly off the inlet manifold.

Would you suggest a smoke test?
Careful...your motor is about to blow !!!

Ask me how I know.
Infidel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2014, 05:27 PM   #11 (permalink)
Premium Member
 
SS_Firehawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Tampa
Posts: 4,142
Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo
Rep Power: 7335
SS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond repute
Default

It may be that the supercharger isn't reaching its efficiency range fast enough without some type of baxkpressure. This is definitely a documented issue when running a very free flowing exhaust with centrifugal Superchargers. What does the dynosheet look like and what type of Dyno was used?
__________________
Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI
New Car: Under Construction

SS_Firehawk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2014, 05:33 PM   #12 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
1slow370's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: In the D
Posts: 3,732
Drives: v8 74 260z ;)
Rep Power: 7251
1slow370 has a reputation beyond repute1slow370 has a reputation beyond repute1slow370 has a reputation beyond repute1slow370 has a reputation beyond repute1slow370 has a reputation beyond repute1slow370 has a reputation beyond repute1slow370 has a reputation beyond repute1slow370 has a reputation beyond repute1slow370 has a reputation beyond repute1slow370 has a reputation beyond repute1slow370 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

pics of your new inlet piping you may have choked the charger
__________________
ANSWER PRICE LIST
Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75
Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25
Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50
1slow370 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2014, 05:34 PM   #13 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Glasgow, UK
Posts: 43
Drives: 370z
Rep Power: 11
ART_Auto is on a distinguished road
Default

ART_Auto is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2014, 05:46 PM   #14 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Glasgow, UK
Posts: 43
Drives: 370z
Rep Power: 11
ART_Auto is on a distinguished road
Default

Here is a data log of the car as well.
Attached Files
File Type: zip CIPHER_04-06-2014_14-49-10modified.zip (64.7 KB, 10 views)
ART_Auto is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2014, 06:00 PM   #15 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: 03350 Australia
Posts: 1,514
Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z M6
Rep Power: 39973
BGTV8 has a reputation beyond reputeBGTV8 has a reputation beyond reputeBGTV8 has a reputation beyond reputeBGTV8 has a reputation beyond reputeBGTV8 has a reputation beyond reputeBGTV8 has a reputation beyond reputeBGTV8 has a reputation beyond reputeBGTV8 has a reputation beyond reputeBGTV8 has a reputation beyond reputeBGTV8 has a reputation beyond reputeBGTV8 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JWillis72 View Post
How are you testing it at the flywheel?
I assume it is on an engine dyno (i.e. engine is out of the car) rather than a chassis (rolling road) dyno, otherwise there would be a correction factor for drive line losses, or the OP has confused flywheel with "wheel" figures. I guess we'll get feedback in due course.
BGTV8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Stillen Gen 3 Intake + Nismo - My Install Results torpedo2k Nismo 370Z 10 03-14-2015 07:49 PM
Full Stillen Bolt Ons + Berk Cats and UpRev Tune Results... chuckd05 Tuning 38 10-17-2013 04:19 PM
stillen superchge build results Nissan370 Forced Induction 68 02-13-2012 05:23 PM
GTM and Stillen SC Install Facts and Results Thread dal1307 Forced Induction 48 03-08-2011 01:36 PM
Stillen G3's those who own with real results please Chime in BOLIO 671 Intake/Exhaust 54 09-27-2010 03:39 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:35 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2