CSF Triple Pass Radiator

Nixlimited · 07-13-2014, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Are the lines installed correctly? They kinda have to snap in or they can leak. If you've got a refrigerant leak you should be able to see it. The oil in it will be very visible.

I haven't seen any green leaks anywhere. Will go do a closer inspection. Unfortunately, I do not have a UV light to check for the fluorescence of the refrigerant.

Super Werty · 07-13-2014, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Nixlimited

I haven't seen any green leaks anywhere. Will go do a closer inspection. Unfortunately, I do not have a UV light to check for the fluorescence of the refrigerant.

I bet you its leaking at the o-ring on top of the reservoir tank for the condenser.

Bill · 07-13-2014, 05:01 PM

Did you guys use the included AC lines or just reuse the original? I initially planned to use the CSF lines, but found them to be about 1 inch too long where they connect to the quick disconnect fitting and did not fit well at all. I just switched back to the OEM lines and they fit perfectly. Given these issues, I'll be doing a vacuum check before having the AC recharged.

jwick · 07-13-2014, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill

Did you guys use the included AC lines or just reuse the original? I initially planned to use the CSF lines, but found them to be about 1 inch too long where they connect to the quick disconnect fitting and did not fit well at all. I just switched back to the OEM lines and they fit perfectly. Given these issues, I'll be doing a vacuum check before having the AC recharged.

I could get the CAR ones to work either. the rotation was off and I couldn't get the screw started on the coil side. went back to oem and everything worked fine

Super Werty · 07-13-2014, 08:40 PM

I used oem lines. I couldn't figure out how to remove them so I made them work with gentle bending.

Bill · 07-15-2014, 01:33 AM

So I pulled 30mmHg of vacuum from the AC system, but that only lasted 15 minutes. Checked lines - looked ok. Thanks to Super Werty for pointing me to the O-ring on the AC reservoir/dryer. When I installed the low pressure sensor, I left the OEM O-ring in place.
When I checked it, it was deformed (the sensor was not overtightened). I replaced the OEM O-ring with the green O-ring supplied by CSF (it was on the bolt originally installed on the reservoir/dryer). The low pressure sensor tightened perfectly and without deformation of the O-ring. My AC system is now holding 30mmHg of vacuum for the last several hours. The system will be recharged within the next few days, hopefully without any leaks.

Nixlimited · 07-15-2014, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill

So I pulled 30mmHg of vacuum from the AC system, but that only lasted 15 minutes. Checked lines - looked ok. Thanks to Super Werty for pointing me to the O-ring on the AC reservoir/dryer. When I installed the low pressure sensor, I left the OEM O-ring in place.
When I checked it, it was deformed (the sensor was not overtightened). I replaced the OEM O-ring with the green O-ring supplied by CSF (it was on the bolt originally installed on the reservoir/dryer). The low pressure sensor tightened perfectly and without deformation of the O-ring. My AC system is now holding 30mmHg of vacuum for the last several hours. The system will be recharged within the next few days, hopefully without any leaks.

Can CSF chime in with the o-ring specs in case I need to replace mine?

Nixlimited · 07-24-2014, 09:42 PM

So I have now confirmed that the issues with my system are the connections to the condenser. Apparently both connections are leaking. Looks like I have the same issue as someone else had. Not sure if I am using the OEM lines or the CSF lines.

hc_416 · 07-25-2014, 12:41 PM

Hey guys I just got my Triple pass installed yesterday. It took them two days because they blew out the ac line. The also had trouble getting the new fittings on. They said that the lines were really hard to get on. All in all its on and my car run's a lot cooler. very happy with it. The ac is also great too. LIke a ice box brr

Arrvaxx · 07-25-2014, 12:53 PM

Since this thread is in the Forced Induction section I am going to try and hijack it.

I've been told that putting a wider radiator in to a car with an intercooler and large oil cooler is not a good thing, that someone here did that and had a lot of issues. Something about there not being enough room between the rows of things that need cooling for the air to flow correctly. Anyone have any experience with that?

Also, CSF, you never called me. Did you find someone for SEMA?

theDreamer · 07-25-2014, 02:08 PM

Arrvaxx, have not heard that, maybe under high heat/load you could cause temps to rise quickly as airflow is restricted.
The goal is to increase capacity & cooling because you have an intercooler, and possibly other coolers, prior to the radiator so the radiator needs to be more efficient and larger.

Arrvaxx · 07-25-2014, 04:12 PM

I'd really like to get CSF to sponsor a test with my car and see if the triple pass overcomes any air restriction issues. HINT!

1slow370 · 07-25-2014, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Arrvaxx

I'd really like to get CSF to sponsor a test with my car and see if the triple pass overcomes any air restriction issues. HINT!

Translation= GIVE ME FREE PARTS!

Arrvaxx · 07-25-2014, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1slow370

Translation= GIVE ME FREE PARTS!

...and then put me in SEMA! I'll have the Varis kit by then you rats!

Nixlimited · 07-29-2014, 04:22 PM

While the new CSF radiator seems to be doing a great job, the CSF condenser has proven problematic for several of us early adopters. Hopefully our issues will lead people to really test the AC connections when installing. In my car, the system held vacuum overnight just fine and then held pressure overnight fine. However, after running for approximately a week, all of the refrigerant leaked out via the condenser connections. In my car the OEM AC lines were used because the CSF lines do not fit well.

Edit: CSF called me today and is working with me to get this problem solved. I will update this thread with what we figure out.

Big thanks to Seb@SZ for continuing to help me troubleshoot this issue and offering to go above and beyond to get it fixed.

07-13-2014, 05:01 PM	#63 (permalink)
Bill Base Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Minnesota Posts: 5 Drives: 2009 370z Rep Power: 12	Did you guys use the included AC lines or just reuse the original? I initially planned to use the CSF lines, but found them to be about 1 inch too long where they connect to the quick disconnect fitting and did not fit well at all. I just switched back to the OEM lines and they fit perfectly. Given these issues, I'll be doing a vacuum check before having the AC recharged. COSMO likes this.

07-13-2014, 08:40 PM	#65 (permalink)
Super Werty Track Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: AZ Posts: 668 Drives: '13 Sport Rep Power: 13	I used oem lines. I couldn't figure out how to remove them so I made them work with gentle bending. __________________ The Build

07-15-2014, 01:33 AM	#66 (permalink)
Bill Base Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Minnesota Posts: 5 Drives: 2009 370z Rep Power: 12	So I pulled 30mmHg of vacuum from the AC system, but that only lasted 15 minutes. Checked lines - looked ok. Thanks to Super Werty for pointing me to the O-ring on the AC reservoir/dryer. When I installed the low pressure sensor, I left the OEM O-ring in place. When I checked it, it was deformed (the sensor was not overtightened). I replaced the OEM O-ring with the green O-ring supplied by CSF (it was on the bolt originally installed on the reservoir/dryer). The low pressure sensor tightened perfectly and without deformation of the O-ring. My AC system is now holding 30mmHg of vacuum for the last several hours. The system will be recharged within the next few days, hopefully without any leaks. CSF Inc., DEpointfive0 and Super Werty like this.

07-24-2014, 09:42 PM	#68 (permalink)
Nixlimited A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,235 Drives: 15 GT-R / 11 Prius Rep Power: 26	So I have now confirmed that the issues with my system are the connections to the condenser. Apparently both connections are leaking. Looks like I have the same issue as someone else had. Not sure if I am using the OEM lines or the CSF lines. __________________ Car Sold! Pleasure being a part of the Z community. New ride: 2015 GT-R - 647 WHP / 641 WTQ (e85) & 543 WHP / 519 WTQ (91)

07-25-2014, 12:53 PM	#70 (permalink)
Arrvaxx A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Whore Island, MN Posts: 1,243 Drives: 40th F.I. Twin Turbo Rep Power: 18	Since this thread is in the Forced Induction section I am going to try and hijack it. I've been told that putting a wider radiator in to a car with an intercooler and large oil cooler is not a good thing, that someone here did that and had a lot of issues. Something about there not being enough room between the rows of things that need cooling for the air to flow correctly. Anyone have any experience with that? Also, CSF, you never called me. Did you find someone for SEMA? __________________ 2010 370Z 40th Anniversary (#480 born 1/19/2010) Fast Intentions Twin Turbo \| Varis Arising II \| Limited Edition Recaro Sportster \| Tuned by Specialty Z \| 604hp 525 torque @14lbs boost on 100 octane Last edited by Arrvaxx; 07-25-2014 at 12:59 PM.

07-25-2014, 12:41 PM	#69 (permalink)
hc_416 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: CT Posts: 254 Drives: g37 Rep Power: 12	Hey guys I just got my Triple pass installed yesterday. It took them two days because they blew out the ac line. The also had trouble getting the new fittings on. They said that the lines were really hard to get on. All in all its on and my car run's a lot cooler. very happy with it. The ac is also great too. LIke a ice box brr

07-25-2014, 02:08 PM	#71 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	Arrvaxx, have not heard that, maybe under high heat/load you could cause temps to rise quickly as airflow is restricted. The goal is to increase capacity & cooling because you have an intercooler, and possibly other coolers, prior to the radiator so the radiator needs to be more efficient and larger. Plasmite likes this. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

07-25-2014, 04:12 PM	#72 (permalink)
Arrvaxx A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Whore Island, MN Posts: 1,243 Drives: 40th F.I. Twin Turbo Rep Power: 18	I'd really like to get CSF to sponsor a test with my car and see if the triple pass overcomes any air restriction issues. HINT! __________________ 2010 370Z 40th Anniversary (#480 born 1/19/2010) Fast Intentions Twin Turbo \| Varis Arising II \| Limited Edition Recaro Sportster \| Tuned by Specialty Z \| 604hp 525 torque @14lbs boost on 100 octane

07-29-2014, 04:22 PM	#75 (permalink)
Nixlimited A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,235 Drives: 15 GT-R / 11 Prius Rep Power: 26	While the new CSF radiator seems to be doing a great job, the CSF condenser has proven problematic for several of us early adopters. Hopefully our issues will lead people to really test the AC connections when installing. In my car, the system held vacuum overnight just fine and then held pressure overnight fine. However, after running for approximately a week, all of the refrigerant leaked out via the condenser connections. In my car the OEM AC lines were used because the CSF lines do not fit well. Edit: CSF called me today and is working with me to get this problem solved. I will update this thread with what we figure out. Big thanks to Seb@SZ for continuing to help me troubleshoot this issue and offering to go above and beyond to get it fixed. binary0x01 likes this. __________________ Car Sold! Pleasure being a part of the Z community. New ride: 2015 GT-R - 647 WHP / 641 WTQ (e85) & 543 WHP / 519 WTQ (91) Last edited by Nixlimited; 07-30-2014 at 03:25 PM.

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