CSF Triple Pass Radiator

wstar · 06-05-2014, 03:08 AM

Just on the basic physics of the thing, it should always be a win. Good to know, I guess this will be my next radiator whenever whatever happens to the current one

G37sHKS · 06-05-2014, 06:09 AM

Is there any special pricing or discount for those who have CSF single pass?

Edit: Are they in stock?

DEpointfive0 · 06-05-2014, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by wstar

Just on the basic physics of the thing, it should always be a win. Good to know, I guess this will be my next radiator whenever whatever happens to the current one

Can't do it... Welllll, can't do it if you still want to run to the OEM in radiator trans cooler.

Ravi @ CSF sent me an email stating:
The triple pass design is only for manual transmissions as you can not have both an oil cooler in the tank and separators for the passes together.
However, we have bumped up the efficiency of the automatic version about 20% as well using a smaller fin height (6.5 instead of 8mm) to pack in more tubes and create more surface area contact between the fins and tubes as well.

Nixlimited · 06-05-2014, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

Can't do it... Welllll, can't do it if you still want to run to the OEM in radiator trans cooler.

Ravi @ CSF sent me an email stating:
The triple pass design is only for manual transmissions as you can not have both an oil cooler in the tank and separators for the passes together.
However, we have bumped up the efficiency of the automatic version about 20% as well using a smaller fin height (6.5 instead of 8mm) to pack in more tubes and create more surface area contact between the fins and tubes as well.

Couldn't you in theory run a separate trans cooler?

wstar · 06-05-2014, 11:40 AM

Well yeah, I already do run a separate air-cooled Setrab unit for the trans, but it's only enough because I'm also getting the water-cooling via the radiator. Having the trans fluid and the oil both interacting with the water system directly for cooling is nice, even though they both have separate air coolers as well. Water helps warmup and stability. Maybe if I had a dual-core Laminova (running oil + trans fluid on the lower rad hose), then I'd think about switching to a radiator with no trans cooler in it.

CSF Inc. · 06-05-2014, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Nixlimited

Couldn't you in theory run a separate trans cooler?

Yes you could run the manual version and a separate trans cooler if you had an automatic transmission.

The units are trickling into stock into both our West coast and East Coast warehouse.

We have about 10 units coming in this month (most sold already), and about 50 next month.

Unfortunately, we don't sell directly to the end user so we can't offer a discount to previous owners, that would be up to the retailer.

Right now Z1 motorsports is buying up the stock we have for fast delivery and Stillen is also taking special orders.

Please let me know if you guys have any questions about our new unit. We are very excited about this unit, and we look forward to hearing all the feedback from the lucky guys who were able to get their hand on these early!

Nixlimited · 06-05-2014, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSF Inc.

Yes you could run the manual version and a separate trans cooler if you had an automatic transmission.

The units are trickling into stock into both our West coast and East Coast warehouse.

We have about 10 units coming in this month (most sold already), and about 50 next month.

Unfortunately, we don't sell directly to the end user so we can't offer a discount to previous owners, that would be up to the retailer.

Right now Z1 motorsports is buying up the stock we have for fast delivery and Stillen is also taking special orders.

Please let me know if you guys have any questions about our new unit. We are very excited about this unit, and we look forward to hearing all the feedback from the lucky guys who were able to get their hand on these early!

Thanks for stopping by, CSF! I already have one of the new units waiting for me.

Can't wait to test it with my TT setup.

clintfocus · 06-05-2014, 12:21 PM

^looking forward to seeing your results with the turbo power

CSF Inc. · 06-17-2014, 03:06 PM

Z1 Motorsports has 5 units of the manual. That's all we have in the country at this time.
Also a few automatics as well.

Keep cool

1slow370 · 06-17-2014, 03:43 PM

does it use the same drain and pleed plugs as the old unit?

Z eliminator · 06-17-2014, 05:04 PM

Can you fit a condenser unit in front of the rad for A/C ?

CSF Inc. · 06-18-2014, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1slow370

does it use the same drain and pleed plugs as the old unit?

After receiving several complaints about the integrity of our drain plug and bleeder screw, we have addressed this by using much stronger aluminum for these components.

Z Eliminator - the cooling system module comes with the condenser, and is a complete drop in fit to replace the entire stock cooling system.

Please see picture attached.

DEpointfive0 · 06-18-2014, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Z eliminator

Can you fit a condenser unit in front of the rad for A/C ?

Yeah, they make 2 models, 1 with and 1 without

jwick · 06-18-2014, 01:15 PM

Kinda pissed they release this only a couple months after I bought and installed the original

theDreamer · 06-18-2014, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick

Kinda pissed they release this only a couple months after I bought and installed the original

Could always ask for a buy back for the purchase of a new one potentially?
I just bought a second one, after the first failed, about 2 months ago.

06-05-2014, 03:08 AM	#16 (permalink)
wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3594	Just on the basic physics of the thing, it should always be a win. Good to know, I guess this will be my next radiator whenever whatever happens to the current one __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details

06-05-2014, 06:09 AM	#17 (permalink)
G37sHKS A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Dubai Posts: 1,183 Drives: 09 G37S Coupe 7AT Rep Power: 20	Is there any special pricing or discount for those who have CSF single pass? Edit: Are they in stock? __________________ G37 BUILD UNDER CONSTRUCTION Last edited by G37sHKS; 06-05-2014 at 06:17 AM.

06-05-2014, 11:40 AM	#20 (permalink)
wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3594	Well yeah, I already do run a separate air-cooled Setrab unit for the trans, but it's only enough because I'm also getting the water-cooling via the radiator. Having the trans fluid and the oil both interacting with the water system directly for cooling is nice, even though they both have separate air coolers as well. Water helps warmup and stability. Maybe if I had a dual-core Laminova (running oil + trans fluid on the lower rad hose), then I'd think about switching to a radiator with no trans cooler in it. dimmaz, clintfocus and DEpointfive0 like this. __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details

06-17-2014, 03:06 PM	#24 (permalink)
CSF Inc. Base Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Newport Beach Posts: 50 Drives: 02 MB S500 Rep Power: 15	Z1 Motorsports has 5 units of the manual. That's all we have in the country at this time. Also a few automatics as well. Keep cool __________________ Ravi Dolwani CSF Racing & High Performance - Manager

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1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	does it use the same drain and pleed plugs as the old unit? __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

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clintfocus Track Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: los angeles Age: 39 Posts: 933 Drives: 370z, EK Civic, F150 Rep Power: 15	^looking forward to seeing your results with the turbo power

06-17-2014, 05:04 PM	#26 (permalink)
Z eliminator A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 1,659 Drives: 370 Z 7AT Sports Rep Power: 19	Can you fit a condenser unit in front of the rad for A/C ? __________________ 12.343 @114.14 . 4.5 stroker motor is now being built. Dec 1 2015.

06-18-2014, 01:15 PM	#29 (permalink)
jwick A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Houston Posts: 14,532 Drives: '10 G37 6MT Rep Power: 2465057	Kinda pissed they release this only a couple months after I bought and installed the original __________________ '10 G37T 6MT Graphite/Graphite - BP - G37T Build

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