My motor grenaded.

Infidel · 05-20-2014, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by COSMO

I'm with you buddy, if in fact vsr is at fault they should step up and do the right thing considering how much you have already been through.. They just built my long block and you can rest assure if anything happens to it there will be legal repercussions and I made that Very clear to bobby...

I really thought Bobby would have responded by now, must of been a long day. I don't expect much. When he said he would give me a 'deal' earlier this morning I was ready to explode, I just kept my mouth shut. I don't understand how he thinks I should come out of pocket thousands of dollars for a motor that grenaded with a SC install.

Infidel · 05-20-2014, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370

was it a bearing or a piston that went? I can't remember which of the other threads it was in but they said they were they couldn't get the oil lines from gtm to fit so they made their own or something right? what if they F'd up putting that together and it wasn't getting enough oil?

I believe you're taliking about their TT.

TheBoomSpoon · 05-20-2014, 11:19 PM

I'm curious even if proven the tune was faulty for whatever reason is there really sny legal action that can be taken? Or are you forced th hope the shop admits error and corrects with no cost to you.

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1slow370 · 05-20-2014, 11:21 PM

actually i was talking about this from it has shipped!!!!

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Originally Posted by SRperformance

Hey Guys,

like to start off by apologizing.

We as a shop did not read the last page of the instructions and we are sorry. I can assure you guys that will never happen again, however that was not the issue. The issue was the oversized 90' coupler that comes off the supercharger and oversized T-bolt clamps. When the T-bolt clamp reached its end it caused the oversize coupler to pinch allowing boost pressure to leak out. The fix was simple, I robbed some clamps from a BMW 335i.

The other problem we had with the kit was the oil system.

The oil pan, oil filter relocation, thermostat and cooler do not work as plan. We made new lines, some drilling and a little fabrication and we made it all work.

Overall the kit is very nice and it delivered the power. The instructions and the lack of parts showing up on time really caused a problem in the shop. Keep in mind we are a 18,000 sqft and at any giving time we have 40 cars in the shop. So when we have to stop and wait and stop and wait on parts that should have came with kit, not to mention that the kit fits 2012 and older NOT 2013 and for the record there are difference between the 2013 model not much but enough. My techs are not GODS, so they will forget and make a mistakes when pulled off a car.

The Tuner and I came in on the weekend (shop closed) and went through the kit and retuned it.

For the record it made 499.6 HP and 402 TQ. Very nice numbers.

Thanks
Bobby

NOBLE|370Z · 05-20-2014, 11:22 PM

This really suck guys. At the end of the day you know you got to get the car running again. Perhaps you could sell the SC kit and use the money towards rebuilding the motor? If you have a line of credit maybe keep the SC and do a performance build. Down the road having a built motor with the SC will give you more satisfaction.

At the end of the day it's just money and you have a lifetime to earn more. Hopefully things work out for you.

NOBLE

Joepro · 05-20-2014, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

Very true. and Nissan is now full of cheap motherfuckers so they'll be LOOKING for unscrewed nuts and bolts. You can deny, yeah, but how much?

Again to trying to beat a dead horse, but if it got to a judge, the judge will ask for proof the engine was tampered with in a manor to cause the failure, and the dealer will respond with what, a bolt is loose? It won't fly, trust me, been there, lost that

. However, there is a member on the forum that had an engine replaced twice with his car boosted, some dealers just don't care, it will depend on their warranty expense that month, that will be the only reason they will look to deny it, no one wants a motor claim under non-discretionary. Again, it just depends on the goal of the car, if it were me, that is the route I would take, the SC kits are far less intrusive that the turbo kits, as long as VSR did not make any of their own permanent modifications and followed the bolt on instructions, I would go for it, the kit has to come off at some point anyway...I actually considered the VSR kit for awhile, but they only do in-house builds, at lease now if my motor goes to installation error I can only blame myself! To be honest, I would not have boosted this car if I did not have a shop to work in and the knowledge I have(not saying Im a mechanical genius) but I would have bough my HP, c7 looks awfully good for the price point! My second route would be used motor, sell the SC kit, trade trade that b^$%h in.

Chuck33079 · 05-20-2014, 11:34 PM

Could the motor have just let go? Sure, it could have happened that way. But considering how much difficulty VSR had getting the SC installed and running right in the first place and then the motor just happens to let go right after, I'm very inclined to believe they fubar'd the install and tune.

Infidel · 05-20-2014, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370

actually i was talking about this from it has shipped!!!!

They had some issues with the outlined problems. Oil cooler, oil pan etc didn't just hook up like GTM said according to them but they they said they handled it. I have no idea when I'll be able to have the engine broken down.

Super Werty · 05-20-2014, 11:52 PM

let a lesson be learned here...when you receive a car back from serious modification..take it easy at first. Specifically with boost...start by slowly rolling into the throttle a few times... don't hammer it on your first drive. If you suspect problems, nurse it home and diagnose.

Infidel · 05-21-2014, 12:19 AM

Anyone know what a rebuilt long block from Nissan goes for?

1slow370 · 05-21-2014, 12:32 AM

courtesy says 6027.06 for a long block and 3626.06 for a short block

Staples · 05-21-2014, 02:15 AM

Wow... so sorry to hear about the issues. As another fellow FI member, it literally sickens me to my stomach to have to see this thread to begin with. They can place blame all they want, however it was extremely irresponsible on their part to keep the car on the Dyno and tune it if it wasn't making the correct boost to begin with. Then to top it off, give it back to you to drive.

You can manipulate Dyno numbers to whatever you want. If this sheet that was given to you is legitimate and wasn't tampered with and is your actual Dyno sheet, then I can tell you that the tune is way out of its safety threshold. There's noway in hell you should see 402ft-lbs @ 8PSI. Way too aggressive on the tune. It does also look like something was being covered up since it doesn't show numbers past 6,950RPMs.

The whole Sam debacle going down is messed up beyond words, but I can say when/if you do actually receive the product it performs as should IF installed properly.

Infidel, I really hope you do get some type of closure man. Such a horrible situation.

Jordo! · 05-21-2014, 02:27 AM

Email my friend Martin Struk at rsenthalpy@gmail.com and he will set it right. Trust me on this. PM me if you want more details, but Martin is the guy to go to if you are exhausted with trying to get the original shop to sort things out satisfactorily.

He might be able to help you track down an engine too -- feel free to PM me or do a little googling to find out more about him, but he is the #1 person in FL (or really anywhere) for Nissan rebuild, tune, etc.

Nissan370 · 05-21-2014, 07:06 AM

One of the first things that should be done to any motor getting worked on is having the motors health checked. Some shops do it some dont.

Second I feel you on the f $ ck factor when I had my motor pop doing a Retune when I had the Stillen kit but like I found out its hard to prove it was the shop or the motor.
unless the motor had a complete check up before the work was done

we all know once you start modding your car your kinda out there on your own.
And I don't know a dealer in the world that would replace your motor
for free after you install a kit on it.

Crazy thing when my motor popped I was at Burger King waiting for the car to be tuned and was called with the motor just let go and you ccan't drive the car. I was so angry it's not even funny.

As a price check it about 5k-6k for a replace motor and it cost me 8200.00 to have my motor built.

JARblue · 05-21-2014, 08:11 AM

Fvckin hell. Like you haven't been through enough of this $hit already?

Sorry to hear man. GL with whatever direction you take

Still waiting on a post from Bobby, I guess? Seems like he doesn't have much to add to your post

05-20-2014, 11:19 PM	#48 (permalink)
TheBoomSpoon Base Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 223 Drives: 2009 370z 7at Rep Power: 12	I'm curious even if proven the tune was faulty for whatever reason is there really sny legal action that can be taken? Or are you forced th hope the shop admits error and corrects with no cost to you. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk Infidel likes this.

05-20-2014, 11:22 PM	#50 (permalink)
NOBLE\|370Z Base Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Calgary AB Posts: 61 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z Rep Power: 14	This really suck guys. At the end of the day you know you got to get the car running again. Perhaps you could sell the SC kit and use the money towards rebuilding the motor? If you have a line of credit maybe keep the SC and do a performance build. Down the road having a built motor with the SC will give you more satisfaction. At the end of the day it's just money and you have a lifetime to earn more. Hopefully things work out for you. NOBLE Mkai0 and Infidel like this.

05-20-2014, 11:34 PM	#52 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	Could the motor have just let go? Sure, it could have happened that way. But considering how much difficulty VSR had getting the SC installed and running right in the first place and then the motor just happens to let go right after, I'm very inclined to believe they fubar'd the install and tune. NOBLE\|370Z, KN21283, Joepro and 1 others like this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

05-20-2014, 11:52 PM	#54 (permalink)
Super Werty Track Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: AZ Posts: 668 Drives: '13 Sport Rep Power: 13	let a lesson be learned here...when you receive a car back from serious modification..take it easy at first. Specifically with boost...start by slowly rolling into the throttle a few times... don't hammer it on your first drive. If you suspect problems, nurse it home and diagnose. COSMO and Infidel like this. __________________ The Build

05-21-2014, 12:32 AM	#56 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	courtesy says 6027.06 for a long block and 3626.06 for a short block DEpointfive0 likes this. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

05-21-2014, 12:19 AM	#55 (permalink)
Infidel Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Central Florida Posts: 457 Drives: 2013 GM 6MT Rep Power: 14	Anyone know what a rebuilt long block from Nissan goes for?

05-21-2014, 02:15 AM	#57 (permalink)
Staples Track Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 546 Drives: '08 Infiniti G37s Rep Power: 16	Wow... so sorry to hear about the issues. As another fellow FI member, it literally sickens me to my stomach to have to see this thread to begin with. They can place blame all they want, however it was extremely irresponsible on their part to keep the car on the Dyno and tune it if it wasn't making the correct boost to begin with. Then to top it off, give it back to you to drive. You can manipulate Dyno numbers to whatever you want. If this sheet that was given to you is legitimate and wasn't tampered with and is your actual Dyno sheet, then I can tell you that the tune is way out of its safety threshold. There's noway in hell you should see 402ft-lbs @ 8PSI. Way too aggressive on the tune. It does also look like something was being covered up since it doesn't show numbers past 6,950RPMs. The whole Sam debacle going down is messed up beyond words, but I can say when/if you do actually receive the product it performs as should IF installed properly. Infidel, I really hope you do get some type of closure man. Such a horrible situation. Mkai0, javi370z and Infidel like this. __________________ '08 Infiniti G37s - Forced Induction Fed Last edited by Staples; 05-21-2014 at 02:17 AM.

05-21-2014, 02:27 AM	#58 (permalink)
Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 418	Email my friend Martin Struk at rsenthalpy@gmail.com and he will set it right. Trust me on this. PM me if you want more details, but Martin is the guy to go to if you are exhausted with trying to get the original shop to sort things out satisfactorily. He might be able to help you track down an engine too -- feel free to PM me or do a little googling to find out more about him, but he is the #1 person in FL (or really anywhere) for Nissan rebuild, tune, etc. Infidel and G37Some like this. __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it.

05-21-2014, 07:06 AM	#59 (permalink)
Nissan370 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Baltimore Posts: 431 Drives: 2009 ST BLK 370Z Rep Power: 15	One of the first things that should be done to any motor getting worked on is having the motors health checked. Some shops do it some dont. Second I feel you on the f $ ck factor when I had my motor pop doing a Retune when I had the Stillen kit but like I found out its hard to prove it was the shop or the motor. unless the motor had a complete check up before the work was done we all know once you start modding your car your kinda out there on your own. And I don't know a dealer in the world that would replace your motor for free after you install a kit on it. Crazy thing when my motor popped I was at Burger King waiting for the car to be tuned and was called with the motor just let go and you ccan't drive the car. I was so angry it's not even funny. As a price check it about 5k-6k for a replace motor and it cost me 8200.00 to have my motor built. Infidel likes this. __________________ 370z vsr motorsports single turbo/built motor 9.1cr 525rwhp/450rwtq @ 10.5psi (stock maf maxed out)

05-21-2014, 08:11 AM	#60 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 44 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	Fvckin hell. Like you haven't been through enough of this $hit already? Sorry to hear man. GL with whatever direction you take Still waiting on a post from Bobby, I guess? Seems like he doesn't have much to add to your post Infidel likes this. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

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