My motor grenaded.

black_sedan · 05-20-2014, 10:26 PM

Until the motor is torn down, its hard to say its the tuner's fault. If the motor was starved for oil due to a bad oil pump you cant blame it on the tuner. Again, not taking sides... But there are so many factors outside of the control of the tuner.

Joepro's suggestion would probably be best. Put the motor back to stock and have the dealer look it over. Keep in mind, if the dealer does figure out the car was modded you can be on the hook the diagnostics labor.

MidnightBlueZ · 05-20-2014, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Infidel

I already talked to Bobby. He basically said he's not at fault and blamed it on the motor. It won't be long before he responds and we'll get a chance to hear what he has to say to the community.

I definitely understand your point of view and the amount of disgust you must have right now. I haven't spoke to him in a week or two.. hope he has a thorough explanation. Hold your head.. you aren't the first or last one for something like this to happen. You know in this game all you can do is hope for the best and prepare for the worst.

DEpointfive0 · 05-20-2014, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Joepro

You do not have to sell crap to the dealer, all you know is its not running right, unless they can PROVE, when I say prove I mean legally show proof that you caused the engine to fail, they cannot deny you warranty work, period. Do not listen if they give you horseshit. Also someone around your area must know which dealer to go to, some are better than others obviously, my local dealer tried to blame second gear going out of my trans on a shift knob, and the damn manager knows who I am and that Im an advisor for Honda, it was the most pointless conversation of my life...guess what I got a new trans. Only thing they might be able to get any grasp of anything if they will know the ecu was flashed if they look, but just deny you did anything, which I am sure that you did not personally flash your ECU...

I agree, only if he's reverting back to stock. Leaving the SC is a no-no; they'll get you by saying that the engine was never designed for a SC.
IF you go this route, or are thinking about it. Delete this thread. You have my backing 100%

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Originally Posted by Infidel

I appreciate your sympathy and I don't hold you in any way responsible for MY decision to take it to VSR. And yes, I'm upset. However, my motor didn't see 40 lbs of boost...it barely saw 8 lbs. Bobby reported 408hp the first time he dyno'd it, then mysteriously it gained 90+hp because he supposedly fixed a coupler that was kinked??? Is he serious??? This install was FUBAR'd from the beginning but it all points toward the tune being the culprit. After EVERYTHING that has happened in combination with this thread I seriously doubt Bobby wants anything to do with this anymore and neither do I if I have to pay him another dime.

If he fixed a kink, the PSI would go up too, not just a shitload of HP gained

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Originally Posted by xxAGAVExx

Man that's terrible, I hope vsr steps up a little more than giving you a deal on the rebuild. I'm/was very interested In their single turbo kit, I'm interested in how this turns out. Best of luck.

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Originally Posted by Infidel

I don't want a "DEAL" on a rebuild.

I don't think I could give them the right to tear my engine apart if they are giving me a deal because (IMO) they screwed something up...

COSMO · 05-20-2014, 10:29 PM

I would suggest getting a good nights sleep and rethink things in the morning. Decision making while being upset is not a good idea and often never solves anything...

DEpointfive0 · 05-20-2014, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by black_sedan

Until the motor is torn down, its hard to say its the tuner's fault. If the motor was starved for oil due to a bad oil pump you cant blame it on the tuner. Again, not taking sides... But there are so many factors outside of the control of the tuner.

Joepro's suggestion would probably be best. Put the motor back to stock and have the dealer look it over. Keep in mind, if the dealer does figure out the car was modded you can be on the hook the diagnostics labor.

Very true. and Nissan is now full of cheap motherfuckers so they'll be LOOKING for unscrewed nuts and bolts. You can deny, yeah, but how much?

Infidel · 05-20-2014, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by COSMO

I would suggest getting a good nights sleep and rethink things in the morning. Decision making while being upset is not a good idea and often never solves anything...

Yes, I need a good night's sleep. A quaalude and a couple of shots of whiskey would be a good prescription.

To get it back to stock to the point it would be believable in itself would be a huge gamble for the price it would cost.

COSMO · 05-20-2014, 10:45 PM

I have price used motors with most everything for around 4k and would be more than happy to help you find one if thats what you decide on..

elperuano · 05-20-2014, 10:48 PM

Just wanna point out there has been around 2-3 blown motors with VSR.

1slow370 · 05-20-2014, 10:49 PM

wow how many engines does this make for VSR/sr w\e? didn't the first few cars with their kits all blow up too?

edit: ^ beat me to it

Infidel · 05-20-2014, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by COSMO

I have price used motors with most everything for around 4k and would be more than happy to help you find one if thats what you decide on..

My mind is fried right now thinking about options. As I said before, my resources are tight. Might have to sell a rifle or two, that alone makes me want to throw up again. I'll try to get some sleep tonight and get the car back in the driveway tomorrow. I'll be 'minivaning' it for a while, Andrew will get a kick out of that one.

COSMO · 05-20-2014, 10:53 PM

Well z1 has 2 also mine included under their belt. It happens guys, soon or later without a built block. As a rule of thumb, if you do not have the funds later on when and if things like this happen you should not have gone fi. Our motors already are high compression and are not built for boost like the all mighty gtr..

Infidel · 05-20-2014, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by COSMO

Well z1 has 2 also mine included under their belt. It happens guys, soon or later without a built block. As a rule of thumb, if you do not have the funds later on when and if things like this happen you should not have gone fi. Our motors already are high compression and are not built for boost like the all mighty gtr..

I understand but I don't believe my situation went down like that. If I put 5K-10K miles on it and it popped then I get it....explianation applied. But my car never ran right from the get-go. It never should have left VSR until it was right.

blackonorange · 05-20-2014, 11:04 PM

That's horrible.

COSMO · 05-20-2014, 11:07 PM

I'm with you buddy, if in fact vsr is at fault they should step up and do the right thing considering how much you have already been through.. They just built my long block and you can rest assure if anything happens to it there will be legal repercussions and I made that Very clear to bobby...

1slow370 · 05-20-2014, 11:16 PM

was it a bearing or a piston that went? I can't remember which of the other threads it was in but they said they were they couldn't get the oil lines from gtm to fit so they made their own or something right? what if they F'd up putting that together and it wasn't getting enough oil?

Edit: How many leftover parts did they have in the box after the instal haha

05-20-2014, 10:26 PM	#31 (permalink)
black_sedan Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Florida Posts: 308 Drives: 14' F150, 14' Q50 Rep Power: 13	Until the motor is torn down, its hard to say its the tuner's fault. If the motor was starved for oil due to a bad oil pump you cant blame it on the tuner. Again, not taking sides... But there are so many factors outside of the control of the tuner. Joepro's suggestion would probably be best. Put the motor back to stock and have the dealer look it over. Keep in mind, if the dealer does figure out the car was modded you can be on the hook the diagnostics labor. DEpointfive0, Infidel and MidnightBlueZ like this.

05-20-2014, 10:29 PM	#34 (permalink)
COSMO A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: FL Posts: 1,816 Drives: 2012 Touring GTM TT Rep Power: 19	I would suggest getting a good nights sleep and rethink things in the morning. Decision making while being upset is not a good idea and often never solves anything... TerribleONE, black_sedan, DEpointfive0 and 2 others like this.

05-20-2014, 10:45 PM	#37 (permalink)
COSMO A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: FL Posts: 1,816 Drives: 2012 Touring GTM TT Rep Power: 19	I have price used motors with most everything for around 4k and would be more than happy to help you find one if thats what you decide on.. gbrettin and Infidel like this.

05-20-2014, 10:48 PM	#38 (permalink)
elperuano A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Southwest FL Posts: 1,374 Drives: G37S Rep Power: 29	Just wanna point out there has been around 2-3 blown motors with VSR. TerribleONE, fuct, Chuck33079 and 2 others like this.

05-20-2014, 10:49 PM	#39 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	wow how many engines does this make for VSR/sr w\e? didn't the first few cars with their kits all blow up too? edit: ^ beat me to it blackonorange, elperuano, Chuck33079 and 2 others like this. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

05-20-2014, 10:53 PM	#41 (permalink)
COSMO A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: FL Posts: 1,816 Drives: 2012 Touring GTM TT Rep Power: 19	Well z1 has 2 also mine included under their belt. It happens guys, soon or later without a built block. As a rule of thumb, if you do not have the funds later on when and if things like this happen you should not have gone fi. Our motors already are high compression and are not built for boost like the all mighty gtr..

05-20-2014, 11:04 PM	#43 (permalink)
blackonorange A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 1,078 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 16	That's horrible.

05-20-2014, 11:07 PM	#44 (permalink)
COSMO A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: FL Posts: 1,816 Drives: 2012 Touring GTM TT Rep Power: 19	I'm with you buddy, if in fact vsr is at fault they should step up and do the right thing considering how much you have already been through.. They just built my long block and you can rest assure if anything happens to it there will be legal repercussions and I made that Very clear to bobby... Infidel likes this.

05-20-2014, 11:16 PM	#45 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	was it a bearing or a piston that went? I can't remember which of the other threads it was in but they said they were they couldn't get the oil lines from gtm to fit so they made their own or something right? what if they F'd up putting that together and it wasn't getting enough oil? Edit: How many leftover parts did they have in the box after the instal haha Chuck33079 likes this. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

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