My motor grenaded.

Infidel

I know this thread is gonna blow the f*ck up and it's gonna get ugly. But I've held back long enough and this morning was a kick in my soul and I have to say something or I'm gonna have a stroke. It was the worst news I could possibly get concerning this whole clusterf*ck that I've been dealing with for so long. I'm so distraught right now I can hardly put it into words. I understand some will lash out at me and somehow blame me for the end result but people need to objectively weigh the facts and come to the only obvious conclusion. No doubt Bobby/VSR has been waiting for this thread to pop up all day so he can deny any and all liability, I surly won't disappoint them. I have been keeping a couple of you informed with what's been going on and I appreciate your support through this whole thing. I will answer all questions to the best of my ability and understanding.

Ever since picking up my car from VSR it hasn't run right, the problem has been like finding a needle in a haystack. The day after picking the car up I took it back to Tampa (2 hour drive each way) because it wouldn't boost pass 8 lbs, it should have never left in the first place. It was determined that the problem was the BPV. Since there wasn't another on hand and I didn't want to drive another 4 hours to get it replaced I decided to go to RevWorks in Longwood to get it installed, Bobby stated that Marti at RW was someone he used to work with a couple years ago. I ended up having to come out of pocket for another BPV AND installation which included an extra hour of labor for a diagnostic that wouldn't of happened if Bobby would have communicated a little better with Marti at RW. Total cost: $267 + $180

There was definitely something wrong with the original BPV, when the new one was installed it sounded different and there was a slight difference in a seat-of-the-pants feel but no difference in boost levels which still wouldn't go past 8 lbs. I called Bobby before I left and requested that he re-tune it since there wasn't any significant change. He agreed and I told him I could be there Tuesday (today). Last Friday, on my way to work, there was a noise that seemed like it was coming from the front of the vehicle. Saturday I left for work and I only made it down the street before I turned around and came back. The noise at this point sounded like a beer can being knocked around so I didn't want to drive it any further. I had it towed to RevWorks where I had the BPV replaced Thursday. There was nothing loose that they could see so they dropped the oil pan and discovered pieces of the motor on the bottom of the pan.

I immediately called Bobby and told him the motor had let loose. You could tell by his voice that he already knew what happened and he confirmed it by telling me Marti had already emailed him about the situation before I made the call. Almost immediately he started to defend his tuner. It was like he knew that accusation was gonna fly at him. He tried explaining that it was a motor that was just "1 in a 100" that couldn't take being boosted. I disagree. The motor had less that 14K miles on it, it's a bolt on supercharger, WTF ELSE COULD IT BE ??? Everything I've ever heard on this forum is that the tune is EVERYTHING. He had no business giving me the car in the first place, it wouldn't boost past 8 lbs and wouldn't get out of it's own way. As a performance shop how could you give someone their car back running no where near the way it's supposed to if you actually gave a shi*t ???

I believe the dyno results were complete bullsh*t. They were either manipulated or completely falsified. According to the dyno sheet the motor stopped making power at 6950 RPM and from what I understand it should make power all the way to redline with a SC. Why the hell didn't they even rev the motor to redline? Not to mention I have a text from Bobby saying that it hit 11 lbs of boost but the boost level is conveniently obstructed on the dyno print out and anything above 8 lbs has yet to be seen in person, even with a new BPV.

Bobby offered to rebuild the motor and give me a "good deal", If he can't handle a tune for a supercharged car I don't think I want to go back for another good deal. I don't think I should pay a dime for anything, however, it sounds to me like Bobby won't be standing behind his 'work'. Que COSMO's response. So now I'm stuck with a new car and payment that I can't drive because someone really didn't want to do his favorite install, he should of just told me he wasn't interested and I would of moved on. I've talked to quite a few people already that I will not mention because they didn't want to be thrown into this but they all agree that it was the tune and NOT a '1 in 100' motor. I really don't know how Bobby could claim otherwise except to deny liability. It's gonna take what little resources I have left to cover getting this taken care of and I understand that you should have money if something like this happens but I never thought it would happen to me.

I guess I'll stop here and let the sh*t roll down hill and I'll respond accordingly. Your turn, Bobby.

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elperuano

Wow Infidel,
so sad to hear this happen. I know how much of a nightmare just gettin the kit has been but then to go thru this.... sorry bro.
So far, ur side seems very reasonable. Never heard of the "1 in 100" motor just couldn't take boost. That's a lame excuse. Man I was following VSR n FB n was following Cosmo thread. Guess my hope of a good tuner in Florida with uprev is lost.

No tuner should let a car out of the shop half-assed. At the minimum tell the guy not to drive it hard. 1 or 2 weeks of being boosted and motor pops is a crap tune.

Good luck buddy!

future370zzz

Wow, sorry to hear this man. Is this a GTM supercharger with a re-tuned GTM base map? On a 10 psi pulley?

Hopefully, everything gets worked out.

tiger123

Man o man. Wow, what a terrible experience. I agree, your side does sound reasonable, however their is always two sides to every coin.

I hope Bobby from VSR decides to come here and explain his side. If he doesn't........then it looks like he fvcked up.

VSR should have never, ever released your car if it wasn't properly tested, both on Dyno and off. This is just common sense and more importantly ethical.

I hope this all works out for you and VSR backs you and their work 100%.

I was in the market to get their kit later this summer. If they do not come here to explain themselves...........I will look for another alternative.

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TheBoomSpoon

I hope you spoke to previous customers about their installation and tune. If you didn't ask for previous customers then its difficult to have empathy for you. Either case i hope u have the funds to survive this major bump in the road.

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Infidel

He'll be here in a few, I'm sure.

From the talk I had with Bobby this moring I'm on my own.

Infidel

GTM 1.5 SC with a confirmed 88mm/11 lb pulley. Bobby said he didn't need a canned tune from Sam and that he'd custom tune it

esfourteen

"1 in 100" is complete ********, especially at your power levels. no doubt theres plenty of signs of detonation. start by pulling all the plugs

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JWillis72

I wondered why you hadn't posted, I wish it was because you were having fun with the car. This sucks, sorry for your problems.

elperuano

Yea that "1 in a 100" crap sounds as ridiculous as it can get. Sounds like someone who phucked up and just trying to justify it by any means they can. That's why I think his side is reasonable.

Cell

Good luck with everything. Sorry for your problems. I hope everything works out.

Honestly, I would look into a LS motor drop at this point.

VRSean

Sorry to hear of the issue, I hope it gets resolved for you. Interested to hear the reasoning behind this 1 in 100 claim as well, otherwise I guess we all need to start crossing fingers.

black_sedan

any pics of the dropped oil pan?

Nixlimited

Sorry to hear. I hope you and Bobby can work something out to get your car back running with a built motor.

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Infidel

Not likely, especially after this thread. Not like I didn't know this when I posted it. Besides, all I was gonna get this morning was a 'good deal', probably not missing much. I wouldn't trust him around my car now, anyway. I resided to the fact that I'm pretty much f*cked.