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burgerga 05-21-2014 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Infidel (Post 2828433)
I need another day of sleep.

Yeah man, you're obviously incredibly PO'd, frustrated, and stressed, all understandably. Take a break from the thread, get some rest, get a clear mind, then look over your options. Don't burn any bridges just yet.

DIGItonium 05-21-2014 03:48 PM

Ugh. Sorry to hear that. Just not fair, and I hope you can pull through.

DIGItonium 05-21-2014 04:02 PM

IMO, I lost confidence from reading about this kit. This is supposed to be something that works out of the box, and VSR ended up making some changes and replace parts to a kit that they did not produce. This introduces some potential variables that deviates from the design of this "kit." At this point one would wonder about the rest of the components. I wouldn't blame VSR for trying, but they took some risks by making changes to the kit provided to them since it wasn't spec'd properly to begin with.

RonRizz 05-21-2014 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Joepro (Post 2827228)

Here is what I would do, I would ask bobby to put the car back to stock or the closest you can, get the ecu flashed back, and tow that shiz to Nissan and get a new motor.

That would be very dishonest.

DEpointfive0 05-21-2014 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RonRizz (Post 2828555)
That would be very dishonest.

And? Nissan has been cheap and motherfuckery enough of us to deserve it

Joepro 05-21-2014 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RonRizz (Post 2828555)
That would be very dishonest.

You know how much BS warranty work I do in a week, people lie cheat and will do whatever they can to not pay. It's no different than the clutches we give kids with si civics or trannys in cars that have clearly been abused, or the seat that just broke, wasn't from their unruly brat in the back kicking and yanking on it....the list never ends, we live in this world...so your saying you would just pony up 10k to fix it? I doubt it, if there is a way to get it for free, do it, welcome to the real world. I said it before and I will again, the only reason I do not have a s2k is Im too damn big, 6'1 250 is not s2k friendly, Nissan is junk compared to Honda.

RonRizz 05-21-2014 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Joepro (Post 2828599)
You know how much BS warranty work I do in a week, people lie cheat and will do whatever they can to not pay. ..so your saying you would just pony up 10k to fix it?

:ugh2: No. I'm saying THAT WOULD BE DISHONEST.

1slow370 05-21-2014 08:48 PM

man been there done that with my car gonna get my head gaskets fixed, part the bitch, sell it and buy a yaris lol Unless anyone wants to buy a full NA car with a drysump and a bunch of parts you can't buy haha 25k

MMC Racing 05-21-2014 09:55 PM

Every shop and tuner is the best in the world until they bend you over.

JMac88 05-22-2014 12:20 PM

Why don't you see if VSR will split the cost of a tear down at a shop of your choice? This would probably clear the air. If they say tuning blew the motor, then VSR doesn't really have a leg to stand on. On the flip side, if they find a manufacturing defect then VSR would be off the hook (the chance you risk making this public)? Just an option that gives both sides a chance to clear the air on exactly what is happening.

Don't take this as me not sympathizing with you, because i do. But IMO, you can't say definitively that something caused your motor to blow before you have even opened it up.

Sensei Kreese 05-22-2014 02:39 PM

Sounds like a legal issue to me.

Infidel 05-22-2014 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JMac88 (Post 2829510)
Why don't you see if VSR will split the cost of a tear down at a shop of your choice? This would probably clear the air. If they say tuning blew the motor, then VSR doesn't really have a leg to stand on. On the flip side, if they find a manufacturing defect then VSR would be off the hook (the chance you risk making this public)? Just an option that gives both sides a chance to clear the air on exactly what is happening.

Don't take this as me not sympathizing with you, because i do. But IMO, you can't say definitively that something caused your motor to blow before you have even opened it up.

Bobby called yesterday and the conversation went pretty smooth considering the mood. I hesitantly agreed to have the car picked up and towed (by Bobby) back to Tampa at his expense to be broken down and looked at. Trust for anyone right now is low and if my finances were any better I would not be doing this. My O/T has been cut drastically in the last 2 months (good 'ole Infidel luck) when I'm used to getting an extra $1K take home every pay period for the last 7 years. It's slowly coming back but I can't be picky when I do it. I have to trust that the breakdown documentation won't be comprimised, as long as it isn't I will accept the findings as Bobby promised he would. Hopefully the only person who wants this mess over more than me is Bobby. Another factor is that the thread is leaning this way and the sad fact that anyone I take it too I will still have the trust issue going on. Draging the car to Z1 would be a dreaded task trying to get the time off and finding some way to tow it up there, not to mention the $6K-$8K bill that would literally leave me broke and having to sell lead for an emergency.

Earlier MMC added..."Every shop and tuner is the best in the world until they bend you over.". This is the truest statement on this whole thread and no matter where I take it there is a possibility that my ball-and-chain for luck would strike again. The charger will be shipped to Rotrex for evaluation, I want everything looked at to help ensure no problems in the future. Once the motor is taken apart and inspected the conversation with Bobby will go from there. And whatever is done will have to be backed up with Bobby's reputation wide open for everyone to see. The wife is sick of this as any wife would be and just as hesitant to let this happen, if it's a failure she'll have ammunition for ANYTHING I do in the future. I have new respect for people who have to go through this, it takes years from your life and it's hard to compromise when there is so much at stake but at this point I don't really have too many options.

Didn't proof read, gotta get ready to go to work.

Infidel 05-22-2014 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Sensei Kreese (Post 2829664)
Sounds like a legal issue to me.

The money and aggrivation spent on this alone would buy me a new block and chances of a good outcome is slim.

SS_Firehawk 05-22-2014 03:44 PM

Sorry to hear this happened to you, but at least you had an option that fit your budget. Are you planning on building the block while your at it?

I sold my car because I had no fall back to fix it IF something happened. I got ahead of myself. With GTM seemingly going south, I was stressed out because anyone willing to touch it was sketchy or wanted to charge me both arms and legs.

1slow370 05-22-2014 03:46 PM

i would demand pictures of all bearings, piston and rod assemblies, and spark plugs as they come out. post them up and we'll know whether it was oiling or detonation that failed it.

If it turns out it was an oiling issue make sure to check the cam journals as they are unrepairable if scored


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