I really thought Bobby would have responded by now, must of been a long day. I don't expect much. When he said he would give me a 'deal' earlier this morning I was ready to explode, I just kept my mouth shut. I don't understand how he thinks I should come out of pocket thousands of dollars for a motor that grenaded with a SC install.

I believe you're taliking about their TT.

I'm curious even if proven the tune was faulty for whatever reason is there really sny legal action that can be taken? Or are you forced th hope the shop admits error and corrects with no cost to you.

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actually i was talking about this from it has shipped!!!!

This really suck guys. At the end of the day you know you got to get the car running again. Perhaps you could sell the SC kit and use the money towards rebuilding the motor? If you have a line of credit maybe keep the SC and do a performance build. Down the road having a built motor with the SC will give you more satisfaction.

At the end of the day it's just money and you have a lifetime to earn more. Hopefully things work out for you.


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Again to trying to beat a dead horse, but if it got to a judge, the judge will ask for proof the engine was tampered with in a manor to cause the failure, and the dealer will respond with what, a bolt is loose? It won't fly, trust me, been there, lost that ;). However, there is a member on the forum that had an engine replaced twice with his car boosted, some dealers just don't care, it will depend on their warranty expense that month, that will be the only reason they will look to deny it, no one wants a motor claim under non-discretionary. Again, it just depends on the goal of the car, if it were me, that is the route I would take, the SC kits are far less intrusive that the turbo kits, as long as VSR did not make any of their own permanent modifications and followed the bolt on instructions, I would go for it, the kit has to come off at some point anyway...I actually considered the VSR kit for awhile, but they only do in-house builds, at lease now if my motor goes to installation error I can only blame myself! To be honest, I would not have boosted this car if I did not have a shop to work in and the knowledge I have(not saying Im a mechanical genius) but I would have bough my HP, c7 looks awfully good for the price point! My second route would be used motor, sell the SC kit, trade trade that b^$%h in.

Could the motor have just let go? Sure, it could have happened that way. But considering how much difficulty VSR had getting the SC installed and running right in the first place and then the motor just happens to let go right after, I'm very inclined to believe they fubar'd the install and tune.

They had some issues with the outlined problems. Oil cooler, oil pan etc didn't just hook up like GTM said according to them but they they said they handled it. I have no idea when I'll be able to have the engine broken down.

let a lesson be learned here...when you receive a car back from serious modification..take it easy at first. Specifically with boost...start by slowly rolling into the throttle a few times... don't hammer it on your first drive. If you suspect problems, nurse it home and diagnose.

Anyone know what a rebuilt long block from Nissan goes for?

courtesy says 6027.06 for a long block and 3626.06 for a short block

Wow... so sorry to hear about the issues. As another fellow FI member, it literally sickens me to my stomach to have to see this thread to begin with. They can place blame all they want, however it was extremely irresponsible on their part to keep the car on the Dyno and tune it if it wasn't making the correct boost to begin with. Then to top it off, give it back to you to drive.

You can manipulate Dyno numbers to whatever you want. If this sheet that was given to you is legitimate and wasn't tampered with and is your actual Dyno sheet, then I can tell you that the tune is way out of its safety threshold. There's noway in hell you should see 402ft-lbs @ 8PSI. Way too aggressive on the tune. It does also look like something was being covered up since it doesn't show numbers past 6,950RPMs.

The whole Sam debacle going down is messed up beyond words, but I can say when/if you do actually receive the product it performs as should IF installed properly.



Infidel, I really hope you do get some type of closure man. Such a horrible situation.

Email my friend Martin Struk at rsenthalpy@gmail.com and he will set it right. Trust me on this. PM me if you want more details, but Martin is the guy to go to if you are exhausted with trying to get the original shop to sort things out satisfactorily.

He might be able to help you track down an engine too -- feel free to PM me or do a little googling to find out more about him, but he is the #1 person in FL (or really anywhere) for Nissan rebuild, tune, etc.

One of the first things that should be done to any motor getting worked on is having the motors health checked. Some shops do it some dont.

Second I feel you on the f $ ck factor when I had my motor pop doing a Retune when I had the Stillen kit but like I found out its hard to prove it was the shop or the motor.
unless the motor had a complete check up before the work was done

we all know once you start modding your car your kinda out there on your own.
And I don't know a dealer in the world that would replace your motor
for free after you install a kit on it.

Crazy thing when my motor popped I was at Burger King waiting for the car to be tuned and was called with the motor just let go and you ccan't drive the car. I was so angry it's not even funny.

As a price check it about 5k-6k for a replace motor and it cost me 8200.00 to have my motor built.

Fvckin hell. Like you haven't been through enough of this $hit already? :shakes head:

Sorry to hear man. GL with whatever direction you take :tiphat:

Still waiting on a post from Bobby, I guess? Seems like he doesn't have much to add to your post :ugh2: