Toss up between Fast Intensions TT or BP kit, i dunno which to choose
 

I like what both companies bring to the table but i am not sure at what setup i wanna run. Im not looking for crazy hp, looking into the 550whp-600whp max since it will be a stock engine......for now. Some advice and opinions would be greatly appreciated.

How many miles do you have on the '10 ?

More importantly, how much cash do you have to throw at a turbo kit and how much will you have left over when something goes wrong?

Gotta go with what u like and what ur wallet can handle. BP kit is by faaaar the cheaper route with the same end results. Maintenance is cheaper. If u wanna go back to NA it's a lot easier as well with BP.
FI is the top for twin turbos. The kit is amazing. The price reflects the hard work that went into making the kit. Also with any TT setup, the labor will be a lot more costly.
Both are proven kits. Plenty info out there on them.

i have 26k miles on it

He only makes a few at a time (Sasha). If you can be one of the quick few then you're golden.

Hurry up and talk to Sasha and see if you can get in on the next run. NOW !!!

Seeeeeeeeeeaaaaaarrrrrrccccchhhhhh don't let us idiots decide for you.

i plan on taking out a loan for the kit and i have some cash stashed for just in case of an emergency. I like them both and i wasn't leaning toward one or the other.

i have plenty of time to get one and in no rush and i have been reading all that i can about each one extensively but i just dont know which one jus yet. i stalk the forums every day about both kits

You're looking at $12K+ homie !!! That's one hell of a loan :ugh2:

same end results? not even close honestly. The FI kit is making tons more power and torque much much sooner than the BP kit and at less boost pressure...

to give an example...just looking at graphs both companies have posted on here...

FI 9.7 psi 3K rpm ---- 210rwhp 360rwtq
BP 12psi 3K rpm ---- 130rwhp 230rwtq

FI 9.7 psi 4Krpm ---- 335rwhp 435rwtq
BP 12 psi 4Krpm ---- 285rwhp 370rwhp

Also add supporting mods with whatever kit you choose but damn that's one heck of a loan :eekdance:

Not knocking your findings, but E85 plays a huge role as well as ign timing. I've never seen a BP hail Mary run, I've seen like 5 F.I. hail Mary runs. Yes F.I.' kit will spool quicker, but not what you're making it out to be.

that is crazy horse power.

and you are financing a turbo kit? bad idea my friend....:icon14:

Did you look at the source before you pull the numbers?

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^^ This

....sigh... just read what SS read and you'll be alright.
To the OP be very wary when reading into numbers. As u can tell people try to run different fuel setups and think it's all the same. As was stated most FI kits run e85 and u cannot compare that to PUMP gas. As I said before a pump gas FI setup and a pump gad BP setup is very similar end result.

If the OP is gonna finance the kit, install AND all supporting mods (since we know nothing of what he has already) it would be bad advice to encourage this adventure, not to mention irresposible. If he's gonna do the install himself and has most of the supporting mods already then it would be up to his ability to make payments and still live the way he does now. I believe the OP needs to give this purchase some serious thought BEFORE he pulls the trigger.

I actually put the entire turbo kit on a 0% interest credit card. Card is paid off before I can take advantage of the full 15 month 0% interest. I don't recommend it as it is risky but if he can pay it off then it is fine.

TO each respectively his own but personally i would not finance something like this man good things take time, if you could hold off until you save enough to pay the kit in full you will most likely enjoy it more instead of stressing over monthly payments and what not. just my 002 cents

that FI curve is on pump 91:tup: on their 540rwhp dyno run compared to BP's 550 rwhp dyno


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Numbers are great to be compared with only if it is on the same dyno with the same tuner.

Different factors can change things. The BP graph that you showed, I believe belongs to jmacs and the one I showed is galeforce's. You can tell which one is tuned more aggressive and which is conservative.

OP, you can't go wrong with either one of these kits. Both are build with the same quality, and both Tony and I stand behind our products.

The two kits are however very different, but offer similar performance results. The two graphs above show you that both kits are capable of 10psi at 3,500rpm. The rest of the numbers will all depend on the tuner, and how comfortable he is with the fuel, timing, confidence in the engine, use of the car (road/track)...ect.

I understand that.. And I'm not trying to diss BP here. It's a nice kit! But show me a trap speed for BP. Fast intentions did 126mph on their 100 octane tune 10psi

^lol this guy.
FI kit costs thousands more and that's not including install. What are u trying to get at?

In my opinion the two kits are not comparable power wise.. That is all. You are correct though.. One is a lot more affordable...

Do you even have a turbo 370z?

I do not. What does that have to do with it? All I showed you guys were two dynos from the manufacturers.

If BP made better numbers later on more power to them! I think that is awesome :tup:

It's only my personal preference, you dont have to agree with me guys:tup:

Now my question is why dont they have a 93 tune for these kits? The labor of the install is no prob since I work at a shop. Im not sure which type of supporting mods I need. I new to the FI area. My Z only has mxp exhaust and stillen gen3. Ive held off on performance mods due to the fact I want FI. This is my weekend car so its not a daily, im not gonna run e85, I will only run pump gas. As far as the kit, they both show great numbers but I jus cant seem to choose and I appreciate everyones input on this

If you do a bit of research on tuning you will understand how the numbers are the way they are.

FI tuned there car very aggressive to get the advertised numbers for a reason.

I also showed you numbers proving that the two kits can put out similar numbers. If anything BP is slightly lower in numbers compared to FI.

You are trying to compare and justify the two with extreme differences. Not exactly the best way to look at things but I guess it is what makes your boat floats.

Some states like California don't have 93 so I would think thats why.

I think a local customer (the tune/graph you linked) had a trap speed of 125mph...can't remember now. That was 94 pump gas as well. Maybe he'll chime in.

Like I said, the customers can decide for themselves, there is plenty of info on both kits, and neither will disappoint either short or long term.

Agreed:tup:

Tell me about it. I should just went the BP route 1.5 years ago. Sold that car after only 7.5 months... So worried about my effing headers, I didn't see the big picture.

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Dood...then I have everyone beat. Even with lower boost.

Also all these FI cars are tuned on a DJ.

My DJ numbers would be

368whp and 471wtq @ 4k on 9.1 psi.

Clutch, whiteline bushings, return fuel system,LSD,ect. I may be going overboard with supportings but my advice like others have said to me, DON'T CUT CORNERS if you decide to do this.

That's my car! :tiphat:

I would agree the twins will spool quicker, at higher cost. Ease of use on the 6266 is going to be a high commodity at a lower price.

So what a guy thinks is more important should be his factor.

Ill give you 3k results, but 4k....not so much. The BP kit is the most complete DIY kit at the most economical price. I have never driven a TT z, but this car makes swiss cheese out of almost everything on the street. With the new update to the BP it is hands down the best VALUE kit. THe FI kit fanFRIGGINGtastic, but not for my pocket book, if the car is being tracked, I would proably go TT, street car, at my power level, MONSTER, cannot image the guys out there with built motors running more.
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contact VSR... talk to bobby and tell him Tim sent you