Toss up between Fast Intensions TT or BP kit, i dunno which to choose

JWillis72 · 05-16-2014, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DasBurkey

Now my question is why dont they have a 93 tune for these kits? The labor of the install is no prob since I work at a shop. Im not sure which type of supporting mods I need. I new to the FI area. My Z only has mxp exhaust and stillen gen3. Ive held off on performance mods due to the fact I want FI. This is my weekend car so its not a daily, im not gonna run e85, I will only run pump gas. As far as the kit, they both show great numbers but I jus cant seem to choose and I appreciate everyones input on this

Some states like California don't have 93 so I would think thats why.

Boosted Performance · 05-16-2014, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Super Werty

I understand that.. And I'm not trying to diss BP here. It's a nice kit! But show me a trap speed for BP. Fast intentions did 126mph on their 100 octane tune 10psi

I think a local customer (the tune/graph you linked) had a trap speed of 125mph...can't remember now. That was 94 pump gas as well. Maybe he'll chime in.

Like I said, the customers can decide for themselves, there is plenty of info on both kits, and neither will disappoint either short or long term.

Super Werty · 05-16-2014, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance

Like I said, the customers can decide for themselves, there is plenty of info on both kits, and neither will disappoint either short or long term.

Agreed

SS_Firehawk · 05-16-2014, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance

I think a local customer (the tune/graph you linked) had a trap speed of 125mph...can't remember now. That was 94 pump gas as well. Maybe he'll chime in.

Like I said, the customers can decide for themselves, there is plenty of info on both kits, and neither will disappoint either short or long term.

Tell me about it. I should just went the BP route 1.5 years ago. Sold that car after only 7.5 months... So worried about my effing headers, I didn't see the big picture.

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TopgunZ · 05-16-2014, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Super Werty

same end results? not even close honestly. The FI kit is making tons more power and torque much much sooner than the BP kit and at less boost pressure...

to give an example...just looking at graphs both companies have posted on here...

FI 9.7 psi 3K rpm ---- 210rwhp 360rwtq
BP 12psi 3K rpm ---- 130rwhp 230rwtq

FI 9.7 psi 4Krpm ---- 335rwhp 435rwtq
BP 12 psi 4Krpm ---- 285rwhp 370rwhp

Dood...then I have everyone beat. Even with lower boost.

Also all these FI cars are tuned on a DJ.

My DJ numbers would be

368whp and 471wtq @ 4k on 9.1 psi.

VSS370z · 05-16-2014, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DasBurkey

Now my question is why dont they have a 93 tune for these kits? The labor of the install is no prob since I work at a shop. Im not sure which type of supporting mods I need. I new to the FI area. My Z only has mxp exhaust and stillen gen3. Ive held off on performance mods due to the fact I want FI. This is my weekend car so its not a daily, im not gonna run e85, I will only run pump gas. As far as the kit, they both show great numbers but I jus cant seem to choose and I appreciate everyones input on this

Clutch, whiteline bushings, return fuel system,LSD,ect. I may be going overboard with supportings but my advice like others have said to me, DON'T CUT CORNERS if you decide to do this.

Nixlimited · 05-16-2014, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance

OP, you can't go wrong with either one of these kits. Both are build with the same quality, and both Tony and I stand behind our products.

The two kits are however very different, but offer similar performance results. The two graphs above show you that both kits are capable of 10psi at 3,500rpm. The rest of the numbers will all depend on the tuner, and how comfortable he is with the fuel, timing, confidence in the engine, use of the car (road/track)...ect.

That's my car!

TopgunZ · 05-16-2014, 07:32 PM

I would agree the twins will spool quicker, at higher cost. Ease of use on the 6266 is going to be a high commodity at a lower price.

So what a guy thinks is more important should be his factor.

Joepro · 05-16-2014, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Super Werty

same end results? not even close honestly. The FI kit is making tons more power and torque much much sooner than the BP kit and at less boost pressure...

to give an example...just looking at graphs both companies have posted on here...

FI 9.7 psi 3K rpm ---- 210rwhp 360rwtq
BP 12psi 3K rpm ---- 130rwhp 230rwtq

FI 9.7 psi 4Krpm ---- 335rwhp 435rwtq
BP 12 psi 4Krpm ---- 285rwhp 370rwhp

Ill give you 3k results, but 4k....not so much. The BP kit is the most complete DIY kit at the most economical price. I have never driven a TT z, but this car makes swiss cheese out of almost everything on the street. With the new update to the BP it is hands down the best VALUE kit. THe FI kit fanFRIGGINGtastic, but not for my pocket book, if the car is being tracked, I would proably go TT, street car, at my power level, MONSTER, cannot image the guys out there with built motors running more.

Isamu · 05-16-2014, 08:23 PM

contact VSR... talk to bobby and tell him Tim sent you

jwick · 05-16-2014, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Super Werty

same end results? not even close honestly. The FI kit is making tons more power and torque much much sooner than the BP kit and at less boost pressure...

to give an example...just looking at graphs both companies have posted on here...

FI 9.7 psi 3K rpm ---- 210rwhp 360rwtq
BP 12psi 3K rpm ---- 130rwhp 230rwtq

FI 9.7 psi 4Krpm ---- 335rwhp 435rwtq
BP 12 psi 4Krpm ---- 285rwhp 370rwhp

I guess I'll chime in with my numbers just to add fuel to the fire. These are adjusted for DJ equivalents

BP 9psi (62kPa) 3K rpm ---- 201rwhp 345rwtq
BP 9psi (62kPa) 4k rpm ---- 334rwhp 434rwtq

The FI kit is awesome and I have nothing bad to say about it. As with anything there are pros and cons to TT and single T. I stand by single turbo and the BP kit does perform very well. Not to mention that having the turbo basically right there under the floor board gives you all the good turbo noises all the time.

I would also like to mention that PSI means NOTHING. It's about how much air is moving. Boost levels are only compariable with similar/equal sized turbos.

jwick · 05-16-2014, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Infidel

You're looking at $12K+ homie !!! That's one hell of a loan

Dude I'd say plan for $15k...FI is not cheap. Not to mention that you need $6-8k sitting around for the 'I popped my motor' fund. Both of these kits are real good but things happen. You are talking about boosting a NA factory car.

TopgunZ · 05-16-2014, 10:57 PM

True. I took advantage of the timing E85 allows you to advance. My other option would have been garb 91 pump and theres no way I would have hit my numbers on 9lbs with it.

jwick · 05-16-2014, 10:59 PM

I'm running 93 octane. Boost is somewhere between 9-9.7lbs as I get a little variance between the gauge and boost controller. Also running as little timing as possible to keep torque down. There is no funny business in my tune.

faceglide · 05-17-2014, 01:18 AM

OP, just call both of the vendors up, talk it up and decide for yourself.

I can tell you that I love my kit, have not had a single problem with it at all in the past 4 months, almost 8000 miles. I have been daily driving it in 80-90 degree weather on a 45 mile(each way) commute with traffic, ac blaring mixed in with some good 5 mile runs in between where I can get into it. Has never made me sweat yet, so solid. It has never stopped, always started up, boost is always there, on time, always the amount I dialed in. But I am pretty biased because I love the **** out of this kit.

BP guys also love their kits. Sasha is a good man, the kit is pretty damned sound. If anyone has anything bad to say about either of these kits, well then they are just plain ignorant.

Get with both these vendors and let them help you decide what is best for you. I do not own a BP kit, so I cannot tell you if I had any concerns or advantages when compared to a FI kit, or vice versa. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions about my FI experience and my thoughts on all this.

All I can tell you OP, is that you are in the correct place, with the correct mindset and NO, I do not think your question is stupid at all, it is very valid, I am sure you are not the only one!

Happy Boostin Brothas!

05-16-2014, 07:32 PM	#38 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6834	I would agree the twins will spool quicker, at higher cost. Ease of use on the 6266 is going to be a high commodity at a lower price. So what a guy thinks is more important should be his factor. __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM

05-16-2014, 10:57 PM	#43 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6834	True. I took advantage of the timing E85 allows you to advance. My other option would have been garb 91 pump and theres no way I would have hit my numbers on 9lbs with it. __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM

05-16-2014, 10:59 PM	#44 (permalink)
jwick A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Houston Posts: 14,532 Drives: '10 G37 6MT Rep Power: 2465056	I'm running 93 octane. Boost is somewhere between 9-9.7lbs as I get a little variance between the gauge and boost controller. Also running as little timing as possible to keep torque down. There is no funny business in my tune. __________________ '10 G37T 6MT Graphite/Graphite - BP - G37T Build Last edited by jwick; 05-16-2014 at 11:03 PM.

05-17-2014, 01:18 AM	#45 (permalink)
faceglide Track Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: san jose Posts: 550 Drives: '12 370Z FI TT BkChr Rep Power: 38	OP, just call both of the vendors up, talk it up and decide for yourself. I can tell you that I love my kit, have not had a single problem with it at all in the past 4 months, almost 8000 miles. I have been daily driving it in 80-90 degree weather on a 45 mile(each way) commute with traffic, ac blaring mixed in with some good 5 mile runs in between where I can get into it. Has never made me sweat yet, so solid. It has never stopped, always started up, boost is always there, on time, always the amount I dialed in. But I am pretty biased because I love the **** out of this kit. BP guys also love their kits. Sasha is a good man, the kit is pretty damned sound. If anyone has anything bad to say about either of these kits, well then they are just plain ignorant. Get with both these vendors and let them help you decide what is best for you. I do not own a BP kit, so I cannot tell you if I had any concerns or advantages when compared to a FI kit, or vice versa. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions about my FI experience and my thoughts on all this. All I can tell you OP, is that you are in the correct place, with the correct mindset and NO, I do not think your question is stupid at all, it is very valid, I am sure you are not the only one! Happy Boostin Brothas! Mr.Squeeze, jwick and Hotrodz like this.

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