Toss up between Fast Intensions TT or BP kit, i dunno which to choose

elperuano · 05-16-2014, 03:04 PM

Gotta go with what u like and what ur wallet can handle. BP kit is by faaaar the cheaper route with the same end results. Maintenance is cheaper. If u wanna go back to NA it's a lot easier as well with BP.
FI is the top for twin turbos. The kit is amazing. The price reflects the hard work that went into making the kit. Also with any TT setup, the labor will be a lot more costly.
Both are proven kits. Plenty info out there on them.

Infidel · 05-16-2014, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by elperuano

Gotta go with what u like and what ur wallet can handle. BP kit is by faaaar the cheaper route with the same end results. Maintenance is cheaper. If u wanna go back to NA it's a lot easier as well with BP.
FI is the top for twin turbos. The kit is amazing. The price reflects the hard work that went into making the kit. Also with any TT setup, the labor will be a lot more costly.
Both are proven kits. Plenty info out there on them.

He only makes a few at a time (Sasha). If you can be one of the quick few then you're golden.

DasBurkey · 05-16-2014, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by elperuano

Gotta go with what u like and what ur wallet can handle. BP kit is by faaaar the cheaper route with the same end results. Maintenance is cheaper. If u wanna go back to NA it's a lot easier as well with BP.
FI is the top for twin turbos. The kit is amazing. The price reflects the hard work that went into making the kit. Also with any TT setup, the labor will be a lot more costly.
Both are proven kits. Plenty info out there on them.

i plan on taking out a loan for the kit and i have some cash stashed for just in case of an emergency. I like them both and i wasn't leaning toward one or the other.

Infidel · 05-16-2014, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DasBurkey

i plan on taking out a loan for the kit and i have some cash stashed for just in case of an emergency. I like them both and i wasn't leaning toward one or the other.

You're looking at $12K+ homie !!! That's one hell of a loan

VSS370z · 05-16-2014, 03:36 PM

Also add supporting mods with whatever kit you choose but damn that's one heck of a loan

Infidel · 05-16-2014, 03:50 PM

If the OP is gonna finance the kit, install AND all supporting mods (since we know nothing of what he has already) it would be bad advice to encourage this adventure, not to mention irresposible. If he's gonna do the install himself and has most of the supporting mods already then it would be up to his ability to make payments and still live the way he does now. I believe the OP needs to give this purchase some serious thought BEFORE he pulls the trigger.

Cell · 05-16-2014, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Infidel

If the OP is gonna finance the kit, install AND all supporting mods (since we know nothing of what he has already) it would be bad advice to encourage this adventure, not to mention irresposible. If he's gonna do the install himself and has most of the supporting mods already the it would be up to his ability to make payments and still live the way he does now. I believe the OP needs to give this purchase some serious thought BEFORE he pulls the trigger.

I actually put the entire turbo kit on a 0% interest credit card. Card is paid off before I can take advantage of the full 15 month 0% interest. I don't recommend it as it is risky but if he can pay it off then it is fine.

jwick · 05-16-2014, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Infidel

You're looking at $12K+ homie !!! That's one hell of a loan

Dude I'd say plan for $15k...FI is not cheap. Not to mention that you need $6-8k sitting around for the 'I popped my motor' fund. Both of these kits are real good but things happen. You are talking about boosting a NA factory car.

TopgunZ · 05-16-2014, 10:57 PM

True. I took advantage of the timing E85 allows you to advance. My other option would have been garb 91 pump and theres no way I would have hit my numbers on 9lbs with it.

Super Werty · 05-16-2014, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by elperuano

BP kit is by faaaar the cheaper route with the same end results.

same end results? not even close honestly. The FI kit is making tons more power and torque much much sooner than the BP kit and at less boost pressure...

to give an example...just looking at graphs both companies have posted on here...

FI 9.7 psi 3K rpm ---- 210rwhp 360rwtq
BP 12psi 3K rpm ---- 130rwhp 230rwtq

FI 9.7 psi 4Krpm ---- 335rwhp 435rwtq
BP 12 psi 4Krpm ---- 285rwhp 370rwhp

SS_Firehawk · 05-16-2014, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Super Werty

same end results? not even close honestly. The FI kit is making tons more power and torque much much sooner than the BP kit and at less boost pressure...

to give an example...just looking at graphs both companies have posted on here...

FI 9.7 psi 3K rpm ---- 210rwhp 360rwtq
BP 12psi 3K rpm ---- 130rwhp 230rwtq

FI 9.7 psi 4Krpm ---- 335rwhp 435rwtq
BP 12 psi 4Krpm ---- 285rwhp 370rwhp

Not knocking your findings, but E85 plays a huge role as well as ign timing. I've never seen a BP hail Mary run, I've seen like 5 F.I. hail Mary runs. Yes F.I.' kit will spool quicker, but not what you're making it out to be.

Super Werty · 05-16-2014, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk

Not knocking your findings, but E85 plays a huge role as well as ign timing. I've never seen a BP hail Mary run, I've seen like 5 F.I. hail Mary runs. Yes F.I.' kit will spool quicker, but not what you're making it out to be.

that FI curve is on pump 91

on their 540rwhp dyno run compared to BP's 550 rwhp dyno

*****Fast Intentions "Twin Turbo Kit" is here*****

Boosted Performance single turbo build

Cell · 05-16-2014, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Super Werty

that FI curve is on pump 91

on their 540rwhp dyno run compared to BP's 550 rwhp dyno

*****Fast Intentions "Twin Turbo Kit" is here*****

Boosted Performance single turbo build

Numbers are great to be compared with only if it is on the same dyno with the same tuner.

Different factors can change things. The BP graph that you showed, I believe belongs to jmacs and the one I showed is galeforce's. You can tell which one is tuned more aggressive and which is conservative.

Cell · 05-16-2014, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Super Werty

same end results? not even close honestly. The FI kit is making tons more power and torque much much sooner than the BP kit and at less boost pressure...

to give an example...just looking at graphs both companies have posted on here...

FI 9.7 psi 3K rpm ---- 210rwhp 360rwtq
BP 12psi 3K rpm ---- 130rwhp 230rwtq

FI 9.7 psi 4Krpm ---- 335rwhp 435rwtq
BP 12 psi 4Krpm ---- 285rwhp 370rwhp

Did you look at the source before you pull the numbers?

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk

Not knocking your findings, but E85 plays a huge role as well as ign timing. I've never seen a BP hail Mary run, I've seen like 5 F.I. hail Mary runs. Yes F.I.' kit will spool quicker, but not what you're making it out to be.

^^ This

Boosted Performance · 05-16-2014, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Cell

OP, you can't go wrong with either one of these kits. Both are build with the same quality, and both Tony and I stand behind our products.

The two kits are however very different, but offer similar performance results. The two graphs above show you that both kits are capable of 10psi at 3,500rpm. The rest of the numbers will all depend on the tuner, and how comfortable he is with the fuel, timing, confidence in the engine, use of the car (road/track)...ect.

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05-16-2014, 03:04 PM	#1 (permalink)
elperuano A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Southwest FL Posts: 1,374 Drives: G37S Rep Power: 29	Gotta go with what u like and what ur wallet can handle. BP kit is by faaaar the cheaper route with the same end results. Maintenance is cheaper. If u wanna go back to NA it's a lot easier as well with BP. FI is the top for twin turbos. The kit is amazing. The price reflects the hard work that went into making the kit. Also with any TT setup, the labor will be a lot more costly. Both are proven kits. Plenty info out there on them.

05-16-2014, 03:50 PM	#6 (permalink)
Infidel Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Central Florida Posts: 457 Drives: 2013 GM 6MT Rep Power: 15	If the OP is gonna finance the kit, install AND all supporting mods (since we know nothing of what he has already) it would be bad advice to encourage this adventure, not to mention irresposible. If he's gonna do the install himself and has most of the supporting mods already then it would be up to his ability to make payments and still live the way he does now. I believe the OP needs to give this purchase some serious thought BEFORE he pulls the trigger.