Stillen SC preparations

jwick · 04-28-2014, 01:48 PM

Wasn't an attack. It's just how adamant we feel about their products.

We are all here to happily assist with your build. I've learned a great deal within this community and know you will as well. You'll find there are a good number of boosted VQs in the Houston area and all more than willing to assist.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nismo6972

I got the Mishi part....on the first message
I AM doing the radiator
I AM doing the condenser
I WILL be looking for another Thermostat
Injectors will be at the top end of the spectrum.

Checking Frozenboost, or other coolers as we speak.

These forums are designed to get input from multiple sources, especially to AVOID issues like with Mishi...and the cooling...thanks for that, and if it seems redundant..welll...I like to hear different peoples opinions and experiences/input...
I am sure somewhere in the future, I too, will pass on this info from my experiences...

swiss370Z · 04-28-2014, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nismo6972

Thanks...What size Stillen cooler do you have installed?

19 Row from STILLEN, but You must take a bigger one

Oil pan spacer just adds oil volume, or does it aid in cooling also. (I assume it would with more volume)

I have found a temperature reduction of about 5-7°C

Nismo6972 · 04-28-2014, 01:58 PM

Awesome...Thanks all...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

It just adds volume, but adding another quart of oil will keep the temps down. Make sure your tuner lowers the turn-on temps for the fans and run closer to a 75water/25coolant mix over the 50/50.

swiss370Z · 04-28-2014, 02:04 PM

Hey guys

I'm too slow denitiv
Too bad, I have mastered the English language enough ...

I hope you forgive me?

theDreamer · 04-28-2014, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by diego@vossen

I made 422HP/318 TQ on a Mustang dyno at 9PSI. My oem CSC failed after 3K miles but has been fine since then and i'm currently at 15K but I will be swapping the OEM clutch/flywheel/CSC asap, just will wait until the OEM starts showing signs of it going out.

The new MAF connections were also installed and made things very easy vs previous kits which required the wires to be spliced. Simply plug and play!

Stealing this post and adding it to the FI finished build thread for you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nismo6972

Hey, All...Questions:
1. I am in the process of preparing my 370Z for Stillen SC. I have had the JWT clutch and HD CSC installed, as well as a Stillen oil cooler. (Among other unrelated mods, UPREV, SPC Camber, coilovers, sways) I will be looking to get a Radiator and condenser also. Any particular brand recommended, and why?
2. Should my water pump or Thermostat be changed/upgraded?
3. Will my Fast Intentions CBE and HFC's (Non resonated) be adequate, or cause any problems?
4. Any other recommendations?

Thanks....

Your list is good, like others have said, get a solid tune and avoid mishi parts.
The thermostat chuck has recommended is very good, I have used it also and it helps a little but is not a huge game changer.

With Texas heat you have to look at the cooling and venting with how hot our summers are. So need adequate cooling measure like CSF radiator and oil cooler, but also need to get the heat out of the engine bay. Another suggestion might be to thermally coat the piping to keep heat out of the piping.

Nismo6972 · 04-28-2014, 02:29 PM

I appreciate it VERY much, and I am not too proud to ask for advice, maybe even the same question to numerous people.
Mishi has been discarded from my books...
I wouldn't have known without everyone's input.
One of the people I order from sells quite a few Mishi products...
Makes me leery of them now...But no probs, as I wont purchase them...

Thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwick

Wasn't an attack. It's just how adamant we feel about their products.

We are all here to happily assist with your build. I've learned a great deal within this community and know you will as well. You'll find there are a good number of boosted VQs in the Houston area and all more than willing to assist.

Chuck33079 · 04-28-2014, 02:39 PM

CSF Radiator/condenser for sale SUPER CHEAP

Nismo6972 · 04-28-2014, 02:39 PM

A friend of mine had his ceramic coated...yet another item I need to consider...
I'm assuming CSF is the top choice for radiators? A lot of references to them.
Other than Chucks good thermostat option, what are other recommended (Good) choices?

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer

Stealing this post and adding it to the FI finished build thread for you.

Your list is good, like others have said, get a solid tune and avoid mishi parts.
The thermostat chuck has recommended is very good, I have used it also and it helps a little but is not a huge game changer.

With Texas heat you have to look at the cooling and venting with how hot our summers are. So need adequate cooling measure like CSF radiator and oil cooler, but also need to get the heat out of the engine bay. Another suggestion might be to thermally coat the piping to keep heat out of the piping.

Chuck33079 · 04-28-2014, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nismo6972

A friend of mine had his ceramic coated...yet another item I need to consider...
I'm assuming CSF is the top choice for radiators? A lot of references to them.
Other than Chucks good thermostat option, what are other recommended (Good) choices?

There are no other thermostats. For radiators there's CSF, GTM or Mishimoto. So, there's really just CSF. This platform doesn't have a huge aftermarket.

Nismo6972 · 04-28-2014, 02:42 PM

What CC Injectors would be recommended? 850/1000?
Deutschwerks?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nismo6972

I appreciate it VERY much, and I am not too proud to ask for advice, maybe even the same question to numerous people.
Mishi has been discarded from my books...
I wouldn't have known without everyone's input.
One of the people I order from sells quite a few Mishi products...
Makes me leery of them now...But no probs, as I wont purchase them...

Thanks

theDreamer · 04-28-2014, 02:43 PM

CSF is a solid choice, a few issues from some owners but CSF has tried to patch them up and help owners out.
On the thermostat end there is only 1 choice, the stock one is very good and the only true upgrade for a street car is the OEM 2008 g37 one. Between a CSF radiator and lower the fan kick on temp you will do a very good job. You can also look at upgrading the fans & shroud but only one option with that right now if you want plug n play other wise you have to order the fans & wire it yourself while also building a shroud to fit.

Chuck33079 · 04-28-2014, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nismo6972

What CC Injectors would be recommended? 850/1000?
Deutschwerks?

How much are you going to push the SC? If they give you 600s, upgrade them to 750s or so. Don't go too big if you aren't going to need it. If you're going to swap out all the pullies and impeller on the blower and really push it, then you may need to go to 850s or 1000s. If you're getting a Walbro 255 with the kit, see if they have the option to upgrade to the Aeromotive for a little additional headroom.

Nismo6972 · 04-28-2014, 02:49 PM

So if I roll with the CSF radiator, and larger oil cooler, and maybe a pan....will the stock Thermo be ok, or still do the G37?
(Somehow I bet you say do the G37...LMAO)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

There are no other thermostats. For radiators there's CSF, GTM or Mishimoto. So, there's really just CSF. This platform doesn't have a huge aftermarket.

Chuck33079 · 04-28-2014, 02:49 PM

I also put something like this on my oil cooler- Spal Advanced Technologies 30100403 6.5in Pusher FanStraight 330CFM.

I wired in a control module that turns it on when oil temp gets to 220ish. We'll see if it helps not that it's getting hotter outside.

Chuck33079 · 04-28-2014, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nismo6972

So if I roll with the CSF radiator, and larger oil cooler, and maybe a pan....will the stock Thermo be ok, or still do the G37?
(Somehow I bet you say do the G37...LMAO)

I paid $23 for it and free shipping. Why wouldn't you do it?

http://www.partsgeek.com/mmparts/the...initi/g37.html

Crap, looks like the free shipping offer isn't good anymore.

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Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	CSF Radiator/condenser for sale SUPER CHEAP __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

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theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	CSF is a solid choice, a few issues from some owners but CSF has tried to patch them up and help owners out. On the thermostat end there is only 1 choice, the stock one is very good and the only true upgrade for a street car is the OEM 2008 g37 one. Between a CSF radiator and lower the fan kick on temp you will do a very good job. You can also look at upgrading the fans & shroud but only one option with that right now if you want plug n play other wise you have to order the fans & wire it yourself while also building a shroud to fit. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

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Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	I also put something like this on my oil cooler- Spal Advanced Technologies 30100403 6.5in Pusher FanStraight 330CFM. I wired in a control module that turns it on when oil temp gets to 220ish. We'll see if it helps not that it's getting hotter outside. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

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