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Nismo6972 04-28-2014 02:21 PM

Who is a good vendor for the CSF radiator locally? is it vehicle specific or any particular model?

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 2798374)
Wasn't an attack. It's just how adamant we feel about their products.

We are all here to happily assist with your build. I've learned a great deal within this community and know you will as well. You'll find there are a good number of boosted VQs in the Houston area and all more than willing to assist.


Chuck33079 04-28-2014 02:22 PM

You need the 7012, if memory serves me right. You won't be able to find one (new) locally. Just order it from Z1. Should be around $600.

Nismo6972 04-28-2014 02:26 PM

Ok...Got my CSC from them.
And the oil cooler? 30 row? Stillen, or other?


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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2798525)
I bought mine from Z1. The one for the Z fits Gs as well. There's nothing different about the Nismo.


theDreamer 04-28-2014 02:26 PM

Here is the specs for the radiator. I do not believe anyone in Houston keeps it in stock so I would just order it via z1 and have them ship it directly, they keep them in stock so it is quick (2 days top usually).

http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/t...om/Capture.jpg

Chuck33079 04-28-2014 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2798541)
Here is the specs for the radiator. I do not believe anyone in Houston keeps it in stock so I would just order it via z1 and have them ship it directly, they keep them in stock so it is quick (2 days top usually).

http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/t...om/Capture.jpg

Mine is a 7012. Odd. Maybe the 7011 is the one for the 7at?

OP, I would think you could just get a 34 row Mocal or Setrab core and just reuse your existing stillen oil lines and thermostatic plate.

theDreamer 04-28-2014 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2798542)
Mine is a 7012. Odd. Maybe the 7011 is the one for the 7at?

OP, I would think you could just get a 34 row Mocal or Setrab core and just reuse your existing stillen oil lines and thermostatic plate.

It might be, this is the original image from 2009-2010 when the radiator just hit the market, so it might be different now today with changes & updates.

Nismo6972 04-28-2014 02:50 PM

Lol
 
Hmmmm...Ok...seems legit....Thanks


Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2798542)
Mine is a 7012. Odd. Maybe the 7011 is the one for the 7at?

OP, I would think you could just get a 34 row Mocal or Setrab core and just reuse your existing stillen oil lines and thermostatic plate.


jwick 04-28-2014 02:53 PM

Maybe I'm misremembering but I thought the 7011 was the one without the condenser.

jwick 04-28-2014 02:54 PM

Bottom line buy the 7012. That's the one Z1 stocks as that's where I got it from.

Nismo6972 04-28-2014 04:24 PM

z1 CSF
 
1. z1 Motorsports 370Z upgraded CSF rad w/condenser and 30 mm thick core, factory/OEM fit.
It has new dryer, and lines. Am I safe to assume the OEM fan/shroud will all be good when this goes in?
2. z1 370Z/G37 34 row oil cooler kit, Oil sandwich plate adapter thermostatic, with protective hose wrapping and Setrab core.
3. z1 Red silicone hoses....

yes?



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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2798468)
CSF is a solid choice, a few issues from some owners but CSF has tried to patch them up and help owners out.
On the thermostat end there is only 1 choice, the stock one is very good and the only true upgrade for a street car is the OEM 2008 g37 one. Between a CSF radiator and lower the fan kick on temp you will do a very good job. You can also look at upgrading the fans & shroud but only one option with that right now if you want plug n play other wise you have to order the fans & wire it yourself while also building a shroud to fit.


jwick 04-28-2014 04:30 PM

Looks good. I had to reuse the factory ac lines as we couldn't get the CSF ones to fit. I porbably could have forced it but there was no reason with the oem still in good order.

jwick 04-28-2014 04:30 PM

Oh and buy t-bolt clamps as you don't want to use worm drive on silicone

jwick 04-28-2014 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Nismo6972 (Post 2798644)
1. z1 Motorsports 370Z upgraded CSF rad w/condenser and 30 mm thick core, factory/OEM fit.
It has new dryer, and lines. Am I safe to assume the OEM fan/shroud will all be good when this goes in?
2. z1 370Z/G37 34 row oil cooler kit, Oil sandwich plate adapter thermostatic, with protective hose wrapping and Setrab core.
3. z1 Red silicone hoses....

yes?

Like any aftermarkey part you might have to trim a little. I had to file off some of the fanshroud support to get the CSF to fit properly. Nothing major or anything to deter you from purchasing.

Nismo6972 04-28-2014 05:24 PM

Ya...I hate regular hose clamps. The red silicone will last, and look good too...
z1 Motorsports in Carrolton Ga. right? Not z1 Performance auto...
I couldnt find any 7011 or 7012 reference number...
Amazon has one, just doesn't list enough specs...$50 cheaper too...



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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 2798656)
Oh and buy t-bolt clamps as you don't want to use worm drive on silicone


jwick 04-28-2014 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nismo6972 (Post 2798728)
Ya...I hate regular hose clamps. The red silicone will last, and look good too...
z1 Motorsports in Carrolton Ga. right? Not z1 Performance auto...
I couldnt find any 7011 or 7012 reference number...
Amazon has one, just doesn't list enough specs...$50 cheaper too...

Z1 in Carrolton. Call and ask for Jon Partham, he'll take care of you and might give you a little discount for package purchase.

esfourteen 04-28-2014 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2798168)
CSF is good. GTM has a better one in theory, but good luck getting them to send you a product. Mishimoto is Chinese garbage made by bestiality enthusiasts.

FWIW as far as radiators go, my CSF stripped both the drain and bleeder port threads after having it on the car for about 2 weeks. the mishimoto I put in after looks and works great, runs cooler.

As for thermostats, I wouldn't run the mishimoto's as they have been known to come apart internally.

Chuck33079 04-28-2014 06:30 PM

I had issues with a drain plug snapping off, but my CSF was still better than the Mishimoto I ran on my last car. That one fit like crap.

Nismo6972 04-28-2014 06:40 PM

Did CSF help out, or warranty anything, or was it a write off?
2 weeks in, may be a manufacturer defect?




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Originally Posted by esfourteen (Post 2798818)
FWIW as far as radiators go, my CSF stripped both the drain and bleeder port threads after having it on the car for about 2 weeks. the mishimoto I put in after looks and works great, runs cooler.

As for thermostats, I wouldn't run the mishimoto's as they have been known to come apart internally.


Chuck33079 04-28-2014 06:43 PM

In my case I was outside of the warranty period, but CSF made me an amazing deal on a replacement. They could have told me to **** off, but they have me a great price.

Nismo6972 04-28-2014 06:56 PM

Thats the kind of people I want to do business with.



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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2798840)
In my case I was outside of the warranty period, but CSF made me an amazing deal on a replacement. They could have told me to **** off, but they have me a great price.


Pro4Jackster 04-28-2014 10:47 PM

Another option for the Stillen SC is to order the "Tuner" kit and have the Si impeller upgrade added before you ever install it. Jtran Studios works with Stillen quite a bit, and they put a package together with tuning, impeller, bigger injectors, and a bigger fuel pump. They are very familiar with the kit and can set you up with a package to keep you from having to upgrade too many of the parts that Stillen includes with the Turn-key kit. They also have all of the part numbers and brackets necessary to swap to cog pulleys when you are ready.

Edit: This kit does not make very much power without considerable upgrades, so it's good to build a pretty stout package the first time. The cost will be about the same. It'll save you from buying parts twice when you go for more power later, not to mention the additional labor and downtime.

vlad370z 04-29-2014 04:15 AM

Might need to consider a new clutch in the near future , speak to Joe at Z-Speed , mine is a south bend stage 3 daily quite disk option with the 19lb steel flywheel ,great clutch holds the torque and quite.
Install the frozen boost heat exchanger the stillen heat exchanger is undersized. Ivo (Swiss 370z) pointed out drop of 5 to 7deg
welcome to SC world

EVOHUNTER 05-03-2014 09:31 AM

Pro4jackster hit it dead on, Replace the impeller and pulleys before even installing, injectors are a great idea too. I replaced the BPV and upgraded the air to water intercooler, 150$, great mod.

future370zzz 05-07-2014 02:51 PM

Evohunter, the air to water intercooler now sits right in front of the oil cooler.

This lowers your coolant temps but from what others have said with this mod is that the oil temp does rise since airflow is blocked from the intercooler.

What is your experience with coolant temp vs oil temp and was the trade off for the better? As in, less heat soak and sustained power in traffic and spirited driving?

I'm on the fence about this upgrade and I'm sure everyone would like to know the pros/cons from this mod.

Pro4Jackster 05-08-2014 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by EVOHUNTER (Post 2805313)
Pro4jackster hit it dead on, Replace the impeller and pulleys before even installing, injectors are a great idea too. I replaced the BPV and upgraded the air to water intercooler, 150$, great mod.

I would only replace the pulleys, OR the impeller. Unless you have a built motor. I hit 15+ psi at 6700 rpms with cog pulleys and Si impeller. The belt started slipping and it held 15 psi to 7700 rpms.

TKomodo 05-09-2014 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 2798501)
I believe they come with 750s and with the 8 lb pulley you will only run them about 80 percent. I asked Mark at Stillen about the 600s because I've seen that several times here and he told me they all come with 750s.

600cc injectors and 7lb pulley. Saw the movie, bought the shirt. There was a debate when I had my kit installed about the size of the injectors. Like you, I did my preliminary research and had bought a set of Spray it Racing 850cc injectors to use in my kit. Long story short, the shop convinced me that the injectors in the Stillen kit were GTR injectors, only to find out later that they were Deutsch 600cc. I'll be upgrading in the future.

I'd recommend buying Injector Dynamic 850cc injectors and upgrade the fuel pump. I have a 25 row oil cooler that is ceramic coated, no oil temp issues yet, but summer is not here. Everything else other than my AC condenser is ceramic coated too. Does it make a difference? I don't know.

ANMVQ 05-09-2014 03:35 PM

The injectors you wont need unless you upping the boost, If you are going impeller and pulleys or even just impeller, make sure you upgrade the heat exchanger,( Frozenboost) and I would do this even of your not changing a thing, 850 injectors( I used Bosch EVO14's) , DW340 pump, and you WILL need UPEV's upgraded MAF's. I ran Stillens oil and trans coolers and my temps were always in check.


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