nitrous?
 

Just wondering if anyone has already or plans on putting a nitrous kit on there 370z? If so, what kit and what parts did you put. I'm assuming you tuned for it, how hard is it to tune for nitrous. I never really looked into it before but now that i have a engine that is stronger then a 2.0L ecotec 4 banger...i might get a kit. Local shop has a kit with everything, bottle warmer, window switch, purge kit, everything to hook it up and they said it would be $800-$1000 depending what brand name i pick. They have 2 to 4 brands (cant remember) Also what size shots will a stock engine be able to handle...im thinking a 75 wet shot is safe? ...well safeish, i know the risks of nitrous. Btw im not planning on doing this right now so dont gimme bs about "the car is still new dont do this or that" I just wanna lay my options out and learn some new stuff and decide what route i want to take with the car.

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JBMS has a ZEX nitrous kit...includes everything u could possibly need for the Z. i wouldnt run more than a 75 shot...but thats good easy power

When i get mine done i am planning on running a 2 stage.. either a 50 shot to 150 or 75 to 150...

I ran a 125 on my 350, no issues, kept it on the richer side though, just incase of pressure changes I didn't burn anything up. I sold my zex kit a long time ago. Nitrous is fun cheap power.

well i want to have fun with my Z. As much as i would love a TT kit, i cant afford that right now, i can however afford the supercharger kit if the price is in the $5000 range once GTM releases it, that and nitrous should be fun. I think first ill get the supercharger or the nitrous, one or the other...then slowly start building the engine up and then add the 2nd part. Really have no idea what route i want to take with the Z...lol. When i say i cant afford it right now, its not like im poor, its more like i really dont feel like spending $8000+ on a kit for the car at the moment, maybe once i get a tour to afghanistan and come back then i can but not right now.

Since someone mentioned it and im to lazy to search right now cuz i have 10mins before i need to head to work. How does a 2 stage system work?

The way I understand it you can have a 2 stage set up so that up until a certain rpm range it runs one size shot, then once you surpass it runs the other shot. So like a 50 shot up to 4500 or so then a 150 shot from there to redline. I am by no means an expert in this area but that is how it was explained to me.

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so....DO IT! lol. i wanna see a Z spraying!

I called the guys at JBMS since I am planning to run a 125 shot. I'm going to do it depending on the price of the install and tune.

Like someone on here said, N20 is cheap and fun power.... when you start talking 2200+ for a kit and tune then that's not cheap... atleast for nitrous.

So we will see what they can work with me and maybe i'll have the kit on soon.

DynoTune - DynoTune-Nitrous systems, Purge kits, Nitrous Bottle heaters and more!

They have a kit for the Z.

im really considering nitrous right now..lol. I just want something to give my car a quite abit of extra power until i can save enough money for the GTM TT kit or supercharger kit.

If that includes a progressive controller, then $2200 installed and tuned sounds like a great price to me.

I believe this is the first HR to get nitrous:

car setting up.

YouTube - CIMG2247

Dyno with Nitrous

YouTube - CIMG2253

NOS doesn't scare you guys? I've never used it or ever even researched it. Just hearing about cars blowing up when they crash is what scares me...Please correct me if it is safer than it is perceived to be.

Nope, the progressive controller is an additional 1000 and the install labor 4 that was like $400

I had someone rear end me while I had my bottle in the trunk and it was okay. You are making a bigger deal than it is.

i dont mean to be a ******* but it seems like u been watching to much fast and the furious.

1. Its not called NOS. Its N20 or Nitrous...NOS is a brand name
2. Very little...and i mean little chance that it will blow if u get in a accident. Unlike in the first F&F where they shoot the car and it blows up....not going to happen.
3. Nitrous is safe if you know how to use it...like someone said before...its these retards with a honda civic that put a 150shot in a stock engine...its going to blow a piston or something. But you can safely put a 100-125shot in a 370z if you A. hook it up right. B. know when to spray it and for how long.

HaHa I don't think you are an a$$hole at all. Or maybe I'm just use to a$$holes because i've been on the benz forums for a few years now. Everyone talks crap and act like they are mr. know it all over the forums and get their daily nut by making someone else look stupid because they know something that the person asking the question doesn't.

Thanks for the info though. Like I said before I've never dealt with Nitrous at all I guess because it's not a big Euro thing. Have fun talking crap now though, just like all the other people on the benz forums when I first posted did. However, once I get this all down (which I will) I will be the one with the last laugh. :tiphat:

Yeah that's what I figured, but like I said I have no clue. That's why I asked. Thanks for the reassurance though.

im still new to nitrous, just read alot on it and still learning. Might put nitrous in the car, might not. Havent decided how i wanna blow my car up yet.

Back in the day I ran a 75 dry shot ( which is the worst) on a 99 Civic SI for quite sometime.
I really knew how to control it ( only sprayed under 8 seconds) and checked my spark plugs regularly. Checking spark plugs and doing compression checks became part of my regular maintenance- kinda like checking your oil level.

Nitrous is a very simple setup, that has 2 huge variables, which are what can become detrimental for your vehicle... Fuel and heat.

Dry kits only spray N20, while wet kits spray N20 and fuel, but only through 1 nozzle, which distributes the nitrous unevenly through out the cylinders.... naturally, the cylinder closes to the throttle body ( where the N20 comes in to the motor) gets more n2o than the other cylinders, thus causing more heat and stress to the motor... so if anything, you want to follow up with that cylinder more than others... and then you have the direct ports which equally spray all cylinders... this one could be considered the safest, but also the most expensive and with more variables.... With nitrous, you depend on selenoids to feed the N20 and fuel, and unfortunantely these selenoids fail, and stick sometimes... so naturally, with more selenoids, more chances of a mechanical failure.... so for all safety, always monitor your engine and if possible get a wide band oxygen sensor which will let you know when you're leaning out... meaning too much air (n20 in this case) and not enough fuel.

If i went with nitrous i would go direct port. However since the 370 has 2 throttle bodies wouldnt it be abit safer then a car with only 1 throttle body. I know its not safer then direct port but with a 4 banger, 1 throttle body feeding 4 cylinders....with the 370z its 1 throttle body feeding 3 cylinders...i think it would be a tiny bit safer...not alot but better then a 4 banger, am i correct?

If I read correctly, yes it will be a tiny (very tiny) bit safer for your engine. But in reality the point still remains that the spray is still uneven if it is not directly ported...but Zulu what do you mean by more variables?

I would say the 370 could easily handle a 75-100 shot from the 2 throttle ports, and while direct port is the best the manifold on these cars is designed sooo equally that misdistribution is much less of a problem. Take the manifold off and look at how the runners are shaped and you'll see what i mean. As for safety your car won't explode if the bottle breaks open in FF that was actually because he was racing with a bar of Plastiq in the car. I've screwed around with N2O before (it's really fun) and all it does is make things burn faster and hotter. You can turn salami or a candle into an rocket with it but you can't make them explodeso in the event of an accident if you're N2O cylinder were to rupture you would only have a problem if you were trapped in the vehicle because there would be one nasty fire but no bang.

Also consider that you can buy a DOT approved gas cylinder to keep it in like all the the other MILLIONS of gas cylinders transported in the US daily. My grandpa had a cylinder of PURE O2 that was twice the size of most nitrous bottles and he got in three accidents (2 major) before we took his keys.

Thank you! This was the answer I was looking for. Before I talked to a friend I was pretty convinced myself after you all had said it wasn't like F&F that for nitrous companies to be in business I doubt people would keep buying / driving around with time bombs in their car and I has figured by now and also mentioned to him there has to be some type of bottle or enclosure that would prevent explosion but he pretty much rejected that idea saying "what do you think would happen if you shot a bottle of N2O with a gun or crashed going 200 MPH in a very (talking down to me) manner. Since he is a JDM head or at least thinks he is and EURO has always been my scene and N2O isn't big with EUROS nobody ever talks about it and i just assumed what he was saying was true considering the fact that N2O is pretty much completely foreign to me. The 2 scenarios he supplied are completely ridiculous but me knowing nothing about N2O just left me giving up that battle just to keep thinking it was explosive.

THANKS FOR CLEARING THAT ALL UP THOUGH!

How did you know that guy has a bar of plastique in the car in F&F though? Was there a scene that showed that, that I missed?

Make sure you run a bottle warmer to keep the pressure more stable, and use cooler spark plugs also.

Ignorance creates fear.

Nitrous is not combustible. It will not blow up your car F&F style.

i ran 1 step colder plugs in my cobalt when i had stage 2, then switched to 2 step colder plugs when i swaped the m62 supercharger for the harrop tvs. So i know about colder plugs but what type of colder plugs are for the 370z? Do you have a part number?

True, but it will make an existing fire grow insanely large in a heartbeat. you can start a roaring campfire in about 2.3 seconds with a match and some nitrous.

well im considering getting nitrous if i can get some extra money. the army just gave me alot of money that they owed me so after i pay a few bills off ill see where im at.

I used NGK, plus 2 on my 350. I am not sure on the part number. I have no clue, been out of the NOS game for a while.

yea i used NGK BKX 7RE i think which are 2 step colder

they were 2 step colder.

There wasn't a scene thats how they do it with special effects somebody said cut, the actors got the hell out of the way, and the Pyro I mean explosives expert loaded the car with plastic exploves and they blew the crap out of it with the camera rolling and Vinnie screaming NAWWZZZ.

Basiclly Nitrous makes fires worse(duh) and NAWZ explodes violently so your buddy who owns a civic(guessing) is friggen doomed but you'll be fine.

Thats hard to do! I keep blowing the match out when i crack the bottle. I think i needs some dryer wood so it'll start burning first and then add the laughing gas.

Whipped cream is pressurized with medical grade Nitrous, EZ cheez used to be don't know if it still is.

Gasoline will start a fire way faster than nitrous so you should be more worried about your fuel tank than your go gas, so niether of them is really a problem.

So I have a new question, with there being the issues for cobb/uprev figuring out how to tune this beast how are we going to make it run richer for nitrous?

i been wondering that same thing.

i would run a wet kit so it's hard lined with a fuel jet you could change to adjust the ratio for now instead of the dry kits that use ecu tuning as it doesn't exist at this point. You can also have the overall ignition timing pulled back a degree or two with a consult so it makes maximum safe horsepower on spray. You would sacrifice some off spray hp though. If it becomes possible to use like an msd 6al ignition box with our cars you could do that or run a piggyback ecu that is only wired in to the fuel and ignition systems. The greedy emanage box's are down around $300 ever since the Emanage ultimate was released. They would at least allow you to control your A/f and ignition without having the ecu pull the timing back out and ignore your changes like the cobb units.