GT Motorsports: 370Z Supercharger system development

travisjb · 01-31-2010, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SAM@GTM

Valid question and we all know how engine oil cooling is key on those cars and it is all counted for .

Sam

sounds great, sam.... look forward to watching the details unfold

Aldweik · 01-31-2010, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Not to mention it just looks clean compared to the Stillen kit which as a lot going on (and a not so aesthetically pleasing intake manifold).

+1 (as I see it) Stillen might have a hard time getting the car to run right with the 2 MAFs on the same charge tube.... I mean I stand for correction if I'm wrong but don't banks 1 & 2 generally get different data readings and voltages respectively? How can these variables ever be safely tuned out of what the (already sensitive) ECU wants to see?

SAM@GTM · 01-31-2010, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by travisjb

do you really think it is that ugly ? I think both kits have their merits... the stillen intake is at least as attractive as the plastic engine cover that nissan slaps on OEM... and stillen can easily design something to complement the intake and cover the other parts of the engine for those that care... and the GTM kit is stealth, which some folks will like

so back to the very serious issue of oil cooling... where is it, please ? i've instructed liquidz's avatar to keep doing push ups until we get a satisfactory answer! lol

In my own opinion the problem with Stillen intake is lot bigger then the look of it, It will hinder the performance of the car period .

Sam

travisjb · 01-31-2010, 03:28 PM

now this is getting interesting! guessing you wouldn't say it unless you could back it up... looking forward to seeing some numbers

frost · 01-31-2010, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by travisjb

now this is getting interesting! guessing you wouldn't say it unless you could back it up... looking forward to seeing some numbers

Indeed.

Can you give me the basics of how the bigger intake will hurt?

WICKED_GRIN · 01-31-2010, 03:32 PM

^^ me too!

SAM@GTM · 01-31-2010, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by travisjb

now this is getting interesting! guessing you wouldn't say it unless you could back it up... looking forward to seeing some numbers

Obsolutely, I have no idea what they were thinking. I will leave it at that for now .

There will be a time and a place for all the factual technical discussions, you can count on it .

Sam

StillenZ · 01-31-2010, 03:52 PM

lol... I saw Sam's response and went straight to the bottom to ask the same question... guess I'll just be patient lol, this sucks

Zguy · 01-31-2010, 03:57 PM

Sam is clearly an expert on these platforms, I am very excited to see what he has to say about the stillen system. For me I dont like the water/air cooling system on the stillen.... Im a fan of the Air/Air systems... Then combined with the intake actually housing the cooling fins with water running through it... I just dont like it...... It sounds like trouble waiting to happen.

m4a1mustang · 01-31-2010, 04:20 PM

It seems to me like GTM has the ideal SC setup of the two. However, they are a fair amount further along in the process than Stillen is at this point so I will keep my mouth shut (mostly) until we see numbers from both.

biggersNISMO · 01-31-2010, 04:44 PM

^^^Well, Stillen really doesn't have the best reputation with the VQ35DE guys/gals... It seems like everyone ditches their systems(S/C)...

I haven't seen that yet with GTM products

SAM@GTM · 01-31-2010, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by travisjb

...by the way, both of those guys referenced above are new to the forum and seem to me to have better than average technical knowledge... checking their profiles, one of them doesn't even indicate ownership of a 370Z and for both - most/all of their posts are limited to 1 topic... supporting statements for 'the other' SC kit... just making an observation- I think their questions are valid regardless of whether they are simply Z owners or whatever, but I am curious as to their interests in the topic

Travis below is your answer and please don't start the conspiracy theory lol.

Sam

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Originally Posted by biggersNISMO

^^^Well, Stillen really doesn't have the best reputation with the VQ35DE guys/gals... It seems like everyone ditches their systems(S/C)

NewYorkJon34 · 01-31-2010, 05:07 PM

I know this is the GTM thread, but why is everyone ripping apart the stillen kit, before seeing final numbers & tests?

BlackCherryZ · 01-31-2010, 05:10 PM

i guess the reputation precedes the product........ *^^* as such, the PERCEIVED quality of the brand name and the product dictates the market value....

i, for one, cannot speak from my personal experience, but from gathering info from forums, ppl dont seem to have any problem w GTM...........

1slow370 · 01-31-2010, 05:14 PM

If you have ever witnessed a Kenne Bell vs, whipple war on a mustang forum you know what this could turn into so lets just stop with the stillen comments now. I mean i'm all for starting trouble but it isn't worth it this time.

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