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B1nks 09-13-2009 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by red370 (Post 194837)
i said i could build my own tt kit for 8k, hell, even less. (this means putting together the parts for the kit, not bolting it up). of course i would never consider it because tt's are neither reliable or practical. back on topic please.

lies^^

Red370 09-14-2009 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by B1nks (Post 196970)
lies^^

wrong. I'm guessing you've never driven anything with high boost.

modme 09-14-2009 11:12 AM

^but we're not talking about high boost with the vq37. GTM twins are running around low 6-9 psi

Red370 09-14-2009 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by modme (Post 198365)
^but we're not talking about high boost with the vq37. GTM twins are running around low 6-9 psi

TT's in general, have alot, and I mean ALOT of components to them. When you introduce compressed air into something not designed for it, somewhere along the lines issues will pop up. Its a law of physics, when the possibility exists for things to go wrong, they will, and with an extensive build like a TT, increases those chances 2 fold. Lets get back on topic please, GTM's full bolt on "affordable" Supercharger kit, shall we?

RCZ 09-14-2009 10:45 PM

Red370,

Don't waste your time, I have argued this over and over and over again here and there are people who are convinced that turnkey, problem-less turbo kits exist. Its usually either people who don't consider blow-by or boost creep anything to worry about or who have "buddies" that have TT cars that magically have never had any issues.

Then again, some people know it comes with the territory and still do it. That's ok by my book, but its silly to pretend TT'ing an N/A car comes without any problems.

Not trying to be negative about GTM's kits or anyones for that matter, its just what I've experienced and seen and why I'm going SC this time around.

bucketman 09-14-2009 11:22 PM

:iagree: Anytime you start boosting a high compression motor bad things happen. The engine has a safety factor, and putting boost to them eliminates that. Putting the motor at the edge and then having detonation problems, not good. That's why the 300zxtt had a lower compression than the NA. I see one of the biggest benefits of the SC is less heat in the engine compartment.

Red370 09-14-2009 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 199316)
Red370,

Don't waste your time, I have argued this over and over and over again here and there are people who are convinced that turnkey, problem-less turbo kits exist. Its usually either people who don't consider blow-by or boost creep anything to worry about or who have "buddies" that have TT cars that magically have never had any issues.

Then again, some people know it comes with the territory and still do it. That's ok by my book, but its silly to pretend TT'ing an N/A car comes without any problems.

Not trying to be negative about GTM's kits or anyones for that matter, its just what I've experienced and seen and why I'm going SC this time around.

Agreed, The GTM TT kit looks great and I bet performs like a champ, but my old GSX was a pain in the a$$ to keep running good, which is why i'll be Supercharging as well. Its a toss-up between this and Stillens when it comes out. I love the low end tq of a screw, but the top end of a centrifigal type is great too. We'll see which makes the most power while still being cost effective, im still not paying over 6k, I dont care what anyone says.

NewYorkJon34 09-14-2009 11:51 PM

Won't the stillen kit be better for those who want more low end TQ & have installed the G3 intakes already?

JoeD 09-15-2009 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 199316)
Red370,

Don't waste your time, I have argued this over and over and over again here and there are people who are convinced that turnkey, problem-less turbo kits exist. Its usually either people who don't consider blow-by or boost creep anything to worry about or who have "buddies" that have TT cars that magically have never had any issues.

Then again, some people know it comes with the territory and still do it. That's ok by my book, but its silly to pretend TT'ing an N/A car comes without any problems.

Not trying to be negative about GTM's kits or anyones for that matter, its just what I've experienced and seen and why I'm going SC this time around.

Why is it that you always post exactly what I am/was about to?

I quit!! :)

1slow370 09-15-2009 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34 (Post 199414)
Won't the stillen kit be better for those who want more low end TQ & have installed the G3 intakes already?

If stillen lets you keep the G3 intake I'm all for it. I still wonder how they are going to deal with the pesky vvel though.

Red370 09-15-2009 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34 (Post 199414)
Won't the stillen kit be better for those who want more low end TQ & have installed the G3 intakes already?

A Roots style blower will always make better low end TQ than a Centrifugal style, because a a Centrifugal blower takes a little bit to build boost, much like a Turbo compressor. It would be nice if the G3's would work, but i, or nobody else for that matter, know how Stillen plans to fit their setup on the VQ37.

NewYorkJon34 09-15-2009 09:57 AM

Ya those G3 intakes were not cheap, and it would def suck if they did not work with the mystery stillen S/C. And I also think that the VVEL is giving most tuners a hard time.

RCZ 09-15-2009 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeD (Post 199432)
Why is it that you always post exactly what I am/was about to?

I quit!! :)

Bahaha the funny thing is that you do it to me all the time too.

Lets keep this thread on topic guys, this is about the GTM SC, not the Stillen. There's a thread for the Stillen.

Talking generally about torque curve, I too prefer a stronger low end than top end.

NewYorkJon34 09-15-2009 12:46 PM

Sry for going off topic, at least the GTM kit is going to be a single rotex kit, if it was a twin S/C, I think the price & hassles would be alot higher.

Sardis 09-15-2009 07:07 PM

I agree... TTing an NA car is always going to introduce some kind of trouble.

Yes the 3.7 HR block is much more stout, but it will not be effortless, without headaches, or inexpensive. People expect this to be seamless like it was a Toyota Supra, or something designed from the factory to hold boost.

Just look over in the forced induction forum on the other Z board. People have spent small fortunes boosting the 350z.. It was never that easy.


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