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octet 02-03-2014 10:25 AM

GTM SC Intake tube
 
Guys, do what i did, give Sam a call and express your interest in the products and concerns in the reputation. I'm pretty sure this will help and things will start changing, rather than voicing your concerns here. I'm sure Sam is not running away with people's money and GTM has great track record in terms of products brought to the market, is not like they are one guy company with a website and a telephone number, they're established.

Speak to him directly and tell him as it is! He seems a very nice guy to deal with.

Dzel 02-03-2014 12:28 PM

You must be new here. Use the search button read ALL the threads started by Sam. Then your thoughts are more than welcome.

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Chuck33079 02-03-2014 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by octet (Post 2677216)
Guys, do what i did, give Sam a call and express your interest in the products and concerns in the reputation. I'm pretty sure this will help and things will start changing, rather than voicing your concerns here. I'm sure Sam is not running away with people's money and GTM has great track record in terms of products brought to the market, is not like they are one guy company with a website and a telephone number, they're established.

Speak to him directly and tell him as it is! He seems a very nice guy to deal with.

Get back to us on that once you have parts in hand. :rofl2:

FPenvy 02-03-2014 12:45 PM

yeaaaaaaa this thread wont last much longer lol

IBTL?

Tombonombona 02-03-2014 02:38 PM

I'm going to throw them a bone here. When Sam called he explained his situation and he did sound quite stressed by it.. I can understand having vendor issues like that, I've had to deal with similar stuff with my work, but if we had a supplier that couldn't keep up, or provide quality work in a timely manner then we shitcanned them and got a different one…. Maybe where they are located that is not an option? I am not sure. Also apparently they are working on getting equipment to finish piping in house.
I'm sure they have realized that they have some issues and are trying to work it out… We can all agree that they have a great product, they just need to work on a few other aspects. I thank Sam again for calling me directly.

swiss370Z 02-03-2014 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by luigi90210 (Post 2674660)
we need more supercharger kits on the market



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Just a joke...

Dzel 02-03-2014 08:29 PM

Tease! LOL

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Tombonombona 02-03-2014 10:32 PM

I see that being a very bad setup. Flow is definitely not laminar for the driver side bank. A 135* bend like that will rob boost pressure, slow down flow and raise heat. Unless I can be proven wrong. I deal with process piping in the manufacturing industry and stuff like that is a no no.

Nismodean 02-03-2014 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by luigi90210
we need more supercharger kits on the market


We need a damn twin screw setup!

Tombonombona 03-13-2014 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by George@GTM (Post 2676942)
Tom,

I am sorry it has taken you so long to get your replacment tube, the vendor that supplies us this tube is sending us a new one finally and we should be shipping it to you this week.

Thank you for your patience,



-George
Quoted February 2, 2014

Just following up on this. Any word on those tubes yet? Its been almost a month.

elperuano 03-13-2014 08:37 PM

Lol Tom I hope u haven't been holding your breath.

09nismo498 03-13-2014 09:01 PM

He has a better chance getting struck by lightening than receiving his intake tube lol.

Chuy 03-13-2014 09:16 PM

This thread is the reason I'm choosing not too get their super charger or turbo kit.

luigi90210 03-17-2014 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Nismodean (Post 2678240)
Quote:
Originally Posted by luigi90210
we need more supercharger kits on the market


We need a damn twin screw setup!

i would buy a twin screw or roots type supercharger in a heart beat

power under the curve>top end performance

future370zzz 03-17-2014 02:28 PM

Can't say I'm surprised.

1slow370 03-17-2014 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by luigi90210 (Post 2739332)
i would buy a twin screw or roots type supercharger in a heart beat

power under the curve>top end performance

unfortunately it an old issue you cant run a twin screw with vvel, at least not using the factory ecu. A full motec might run it but you're looking at 15k for the ecu then.

luigi90210 03-17-2014 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 2739558)
unfortunately it an old issue you cant run a twin screw with vvel, at least not using the factory ecu. A full motec might run it but you're looking at 15k for the ecu then.

can you explain why?

1slow370 03-17-2014 06:03 PM

I have before many times search it. Basically you cant have a positve displacment charger with the open throttle and closed valves. You will stall the rotors in the charger

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luigi90210 03-17-2014 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 2739653)
I have before many times search it. Basically you cant have a positve displacment charger with the open throttle and closed valves. You will stall the rotors in the charger

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thanks, just needed the TLDR explanation

i think thats the same reason why there isnt a positive displacement supercharger kit available for the M3s(iirc bmw valvetronics and VVEL are very similar in its operation, if not exactly the same)

Nismodean 04-20-2014 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 2739653)
I have before many times search it. Basically you cant have a positve displacment charger with the open throttle and closed valves. You will stall the rotors in the charger

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Pressure is pressure be it by turbo or SC. Why does it affect a twin screw and not a centrifugal? Is it because it's closer to the valves? At what point in time are ALL the intakes valves shut at the same time for such a period of time to cause this to happen? I have searched and found nothing but hearsay and opinions. Does anyone know where there is legitimate documentation stating this?

1slow370 04-20-2014 11:10 PM

Maximum valve lift on low load conditions with the vvel turned down is 2mm, combine that with open throttles and you get overboosted positive displament chargers pushing more air than the engine can use. By all means dont believe me and make a kit for it. I would love to be proven wrong and put a twinscrew on my car. Maybe you could fo some crazy bypass valve stuff to get around it.

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Tombonombona 04-25-2014 02:54 PM

Here is something different for all you to read.... It showed up today.... Not only did GTM send me a replacement tube for the one that was dented. They sent a set of tubes to replace both, as well as new silicon couplers. Maybe this is the start of them turning over a new leaf... One can hope.

Infidel 04-25-2014 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombonombona (Post 2795107)
Here is something different for all you to read.... It showed up today.... Not only did GTM send me a replacement tube for the one that was dented. They sent a set of tubes to replace both, as well as new silicon couplers. Maybe this is the start of them turning over a new leaf... One can hope.

Yeah...well let me smack that notion right back down. There was an oil fitting missing off the original shipment. Bobby called Sam last week and asked him to include this fitting when he shipped the pipes. It showed up but it won't fit. Bobby called GTM and they're trying to find another one. Even if they find something and next-day it to Tampa it won't be here till Monday. It then still has to be tuned/dyno'd. I have to work Monday and my wife has major surgery on Tuesday so I don't know when or how the f*ck I'm going to be able to pick it up now. When Bobby called I asked him how things were going and there was dead silence and then he said 'not good'. My *** puckered so fast I could of snapped a tree limb in half. The only thing that came to my mind was that the motor popped on the dyno.

Bobby is trying his best to come up with a solution if they send another part that doesn't fit. Sam could f*ck up the nicest dream, between him and my bad luck I'll be lucky to get my car at all. If this sh*t don't end soon I'm gonna have a stroke with all the other crap happening in my life. :shakes head:

Tombonombona 04-26-2014 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Infidel (Post 2795138)
Yeah...well let me smack that notion right back down. There was an oil fitting missing off the original shipment. Bobby called Sam last week and asked him to include this fitting when he shipped the pipes. It showed up but it won't fit. Bobby called GTM and they're trying to find another one. Even if they find something and next-day it to Tampa it won't be here till Monday. It then still has to be tuned/dyno'd. I have to work Monday and my wife has major surgery on Tuesday so I don't know when or how the f*ck I'm going to be able to pick it up now. When Bobby called I asked him how things were going and there was dead silence and then he said 'not good'. My *** puckered so fast I could of snapped a tree limb in half. The only thing that came to my mind was that the motor popped on the dyno.

Bobby is trying his best to come up with a solution if they send another part that doesn't fit. Sam could f*ck up the nicest dream, between him and my bad luck I'll be lucky to get my car at all. If this sh*t don't end soon I'm gonna have a stroke with all the other crap happening in my life. :shakes head:

**** man, I'm sorry to hear all that... I know if I can't solve my issues soon ( I think it might just be crank shaft sensor ) that I will be going back to stock, driving the car for a year or so and then going back to subaru STi world... Having a summer car in a land that is snow 3/4 of the year doesn't make much sense.

Ill 04-26-2014 08:52 PM

Wasn't your oil fittings mixed up and were used in the incorrect spot Infidel? I could've read your last response in yor tread incorrectly though.

I hope they are turning over a new leaf! They received my car Monday, two days early :happydance:, and started working on it right away from what Pablo told me. I'm goin to call Monday and get an update from Sam personally.

I hope they recover from the mess they have out themself in the 8 months or so. They were great at one point. That being said, a bunch of other companies are raising the bar very very fast, VSR, FI, BP just to name a few. Hope this platform continues to expand.

Infidel 04-26-2014 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ill (Post 2796588)
Wasn't your oil fittings mixed up and were used in the incorrect spot Infidel? I could've read your last response in yor tread incorrectly though.

I hope they are turning over a new leaf! They received my car Monday, two days early :happydance:, and started working on it right away from what Pablo told me. I'm goin to call Monday and get an update from Sam personally.

I hope they recover from the mess they have out themself in the 8 months or so. They were great at one point. That being said, a bunch of other companies are raising the bar very very fast, VSR, FI, BP just to name a few. Hope this platform continues to expand.

Yeah...that's what I got my last conversation with VSR, I should have my car on Wednesday. I wish the best for you concerning GTM. Best thing to do is call for updates ALOT and b*tch to Sam when progress has not been made. It was obvious to me Pable wasn't allowed to talk to me after a certain point. He seems to care but when the guy signing your check is literally over your shoulders it's hard to pass along info. YOU have to call Sam, although Sam did call a few time a couple of weeks ago most of the time, if he says he's gonna call he is full of sh*t for the most part

What are you getting done?

ETA...GTM's problems started LONG AGO, just look on my350z forum to see some pissed off people.

Ill 04-26-2014 11:46 PM

I am getting my stage 1 TT kit installed. I was originally supposed to be a DIY project over the winter, however they sent me a defective drill guide to tap into my cylinder head. It wasn't cast right or something so was missing around ~10mm of metal, because of that they are fixing my head for free. I figured they might as well just finish the installation of the kit and supporting mods as well as the tuning while it was down there.

I made it a habit of calling Sam everyday to get him to figure out how he was going to fix GTM's screw up. I have no problem at all with calling them everyday and being that little pest who will keep them on track. When you're holding onto somebody's $50,000 investment, you have every right to ask for as many updates as you wish.

09nismo498 04-27-2014 03:47 PM

Persistence and some patience is key with gtm. Dont give up! Bug the sh!t out of them until you get what you need


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